I'm done with Naruto.

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Re: Worst chapter ever

Well in my opinion this is the worst chapter ever...

Kishi is a moron really... he destroyed his manga with that ****ing easy choice.

The drawings are bad, the ending is... just shitty..

How could that be, obito ?

I wanna cry

all these years of waiting for... this ???!!

Really ? Kishi ??

Kid manga...



you're just mad coz u were thought he was supposed to be someone else. the chapter only showed obito. it wasnt confirmed if it was really him. plus, im sure kishi would be revealing why. there would be a good expalanation to this. so dont get ahead of yourself. sorry bro, it wasnt a let down. i honestly think that majority thought it would really be obito. i thought otherwise, but it wasnt a let down really.
 

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Personally, I think it's hilarious that so many people are upset that they were wrong because it's "too simple." All indicators pointed to it: the hair, the Sharingan, even the characters of their names in Japanese - オビト vs トビ

All too often, manga readers expect the tactics, plots, reasoning, etc., of the characters to be "realistic." The problem is that when it is, they can't accept it. Like, just because the Uchiha are genius in the Narutoverse, everything they say (or every explanation for their powers) will be profound to every reader in real life. What those people don't realize is that even the smartest characters are only as clever as the mangaka. Everyone else on that scale simply must be dumbed down.

Over half the stuff in that show is based off of older folk tales or superstitions; even if indirectly. It only seems intricate to those unfamiliar with the culture because you weren't exposed with that type of lore your whole life. But Kishi has even stated that Naruto is for kids; that he's trying to reach children! Being mad about that is seriously the equivalent of watching Ben 10 or Degrassi and being disappointed that it's not "adult" enough for you. The people trying to make Naruto seem convoluted, and expecting it to be that way just because it's Japanese, are the epitome of pretentious.

But really I just think it's hurt pride - all the wasted time giving thoughtful and complicated explanations as to why it couldn't be in predictions, and teasing anyone who challenged their "intellect."

Suggestion: If you feel the need to be complex because that's the only attribute a weebo takes pride in, go study something that actually is.

Those like me who enjoy not being so adult when they have a break from responsibility can appreciate Naruto for what it is.
 
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lol... I really loved this chapter. This chapter is getting rid of all unworthy naruto readers. You guys really think you are that important to criticize a work that has been going on for years? The perfectionist and know it all people. Of course there are going to be some mistakes in a manga that has been going for this long. You have to be open minded and not get hang up on what can not be or can be.

I just would like to see a manga written by you...
 
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Wouldn't people be more upset if it was Future Sasuke or Kagami? Atleast we have basic knowlegde about Obito. Besides we don't know what happened to him after he got smashed by boulders. The troll theories will continue untill next week's explanation.
 

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People are talking like Obito is purely Obito himself.

You guys, just like it happened so many times with incomplete spoilers, are freaking overreacting to an incomplete puzzle.


1) If Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan like he said he did, how old was he when he did?

What tells you Obito isnt just a body to the entity we call Tobi? What tells you it isnt someone else in there while Obito is very well dead.

2) Since when could Obito learn/use S/T techniques?

Obito before ''dying'' never showed such ability as we know for a fact that his ability is Kamui which comes with his MS.

Now, what tells you Obito didnt actually awake his Mangekyo right before dying as he was obviously feeling a great deal of emotion and so on?

Or What tells you that the one who took Obito's body for his own didnt devellop the Mangekyo soon enough as he perhaps was a MS user himself already (Real madara for instance)

3)How old was he when he decided to take on the 4th? (Yes, height does come into play with age)

The Kyuubi event happened roughly 1 to 2 years after Kakashi gaiden, Obito was 15 years when Kyuubi attacked.

Obito's databook information - Height - 154.2cm
Minato's databook information - Height - 179cm


Are you honestly going to tell me that Obito growing 5 inches or so to make it look like hes pretty much at Minato's height rediculous?????

He had like 1 to 2 years to grow lets say 5 inches,,,, thats plothole to you??? Hell no, forget about this one already.

4)If this is really Obito, why haven't he used any Fire tech's? He's only shown that he can put out Amaterasu....but did he do it with his eyes?

He used a Fire barrier for starters, and hes weaking a mask, i dont know what the hell him using Fire techniques matters,,, he actually hasnt used anything but his Kamui because of how overpowered it is, there is no point in using anything else,,, he isnt even using the damn Rinnegan yet.



These questions were all easy to answer, and no plothole is yet in place as you simply can't possibly go ahead and say that Obito is purely Obito.

Even the last line of the chapter seems to suggest that Obito is nothing more than a name....


According to Kishi both Madara and 'Obito' know each other.

So Madara has something to do with Obito,

Did he pick up his dead body and take it as his own by fusing Zetzu into and put him under some kind of Genjutsu to control him until today?

Did Obito survive by himself but Madara found it to heal him and brainwash him possible because of Rin's death?


There is much more left to be explained, but people are all jumping to conclusions way too quickly, Obito mere just be a body and a name right now, nothing more.

And it would make sense as Itachi referred to madara as a mere shell of his former self, and the last line of the chapter only refers to Obito as a name and not a person.

Please wait till next week.
 

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I laughed at that thought....but it's no longer making any sense. If I'm wrong, I'll admit that I'm wrong, but I refuse to let bullshit walk......If you want me to seriously believe that Tobi is Obito, then you have to seriously give some true crime answers:

1) If Obito gave Nagato the Rinnegan like he said he did, how old was he when he did?

obito claimed he was madara. it was madara who gave nagato rinegan, not obito. with this, coz obito had to pretend he was madara, so he stole his identity. everyone thought he was madara so it would be easy enough to claim some madara stories just to convince others. got it?

2) Since when could Obito learn/use S/T techniques?

he may have been around 14 whan he fought the 4th but. that was the first time to ever see him use ST. but there had been a long gap from when everbody thought he died to that konoha attack. theres a very long time to develop or master ST. its very possible. he awaken his 2 tomoes in just one fight, what more could have happened in years?


3)How old was he when he decided to take on the 4th? (Yes, height does come into play with age)

probably 14. i wish i could attach some pics from the manga showing that obito was taller than kakashi. and when he fought minato, if you would just consider reading it again, you would notice that minato was still a bit taller than tobi. so he may have grown a bit taller, but not that noticeable. he lost the fight to minato, obviousely coz he wasnt good enough compared to minato.

4)If this is really Obito, why haven't he used any Fire tech's? He's only shown that he can put out Amaterasu....but did he do it with his eyes?

coz he was always wearing his masks. his mouth was covered. and how many times have we seen him fight? very few. he probably just thought that hi didnt need to use them yet.

These questions have to be answered...yes they're basic questions but when they're answered even the dumbest of dumb people can fill in the blank.



here are my answers. hope you find it helpful
 

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Are you serious? How is Obito the perfect choice? He's basically a fodder character because we really dont know much about him. Tobi being Obito created way too many plotholes that are ruining the series. Had it been Kagami Uchiha or Izuna Uchiha, there'd be less plotholes and his knowledge of the ninja world would be understandable.:flaw:
This ^ Agreed
 

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People are talking like Obito is purely Obito himself.

You guys, just like it happened so many times with incomplete spoilers, are freaking overreacting to an incomplete puzzle.




What tells you Obito isnt just a body to the entity we call Tobi? What tells you it isnt someone else in there while Obito is very well dead.



Obito before ''dying'' never showed such ability as we know for a fact that his ability is Kamui which comes with his MS.

Now, what tells you Obito didnt actually awake his Mangekyo right before dying as he was obviously feeling a great deal of emotion and so on?

Or What tells you that the one who took Obito's body for his own didnt devellop the Mangekyo soon enough as he perhaps was a MS user himself already (Real madara for instance)



The Kyuubi event happened roughly 1 to 2 years after Kakashi gaiden, Obito was 15 years when Kyuubi attacked.

Obito's databook information - Height - 154.2cm
Minato's databook information - Height - 179cm


Are you honestly going to tell me that Obito growing 5 inches or so to make it look like hes pretty much at Minato's height rediculous?????

He had like 1 to 2 years to grow lets say 5 inches,,,, thats plothole to you??? Hell no, forget about this one already.



He used a Fire barrier for starters, and hes weaking a mask, i dont know what the hell him using Fire techniques matters,,, he actually hasnt used anything but his Kamui because of how overpowered it is, there is no point in using anything else,,, he isnt even using the damn Rinnegan yet.



These questions were all easy to answer, and no plothole is yet in place as you simply can't possibly go ahead and say that Obito is purely Obito.

Even the last line of the chapter seems to suggest that Obito is nothing more than a name....


According to Kishi both Madara and 'Obito' know each other.

So Madara has something to do with Obito,

Did he pick up his dead body and take it as his own by fusing Zetzu into and put him under some kind of Genjutsu to control him until today?

Did Obito survive by himself but Madara found it to heal him and brainwash him possible because of Rin's death?


There is much more left to be explained, but people are all jumping to conclusions way too quickly, Obito mere just be a body and a name right now, nothing more.

And it would make sense as Itachi referred to madara as a mere shell of his former self, and the last line of the chapter only refers to Obito as a name and not a person.

Please wait till next week.

^now, he is a good example of a good naruto reader. He is some one who is open to possibilities.
 

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People are talking like Obito is purely Obito himself.

You guys, just like it happened so many times with incomplete spoilers, are freaking overreacting to an incomplete puzzle.




What tells you Obito isnt just a body to the entity we call Tobi? What tells you it isnt someone else in there while Obito is very well dead.



Obito before ''dying'' never showed such ability as we know for a fact that his ability is Kamui which comes with his MS.

Now, what tells you Obito didnt actually awake his Mangekyo right before dying as he was obviously feeling a great deal of emotion and so on?

Or What tells you that the one who took Obito's body for his own didnt devellop the Mangekyo soon enough as he perhaps was a MS user himself already (Real madara for instance)



The Kyuubi event happened roughly 1 to 2 years after Kakashi gaiden, Obito was 15 years when Kyuubi attacked.

Obito's databook information - Height - 154.2cm
Minato's databook information - Height - 179cm


Are you honestly going to tell me that Obito growing 5 inches or so to make it look like hes pretty much at Minato's height rediculous?????

He had like 1 to 2 years to grow lets say 5 inches,,,, thats plothole to you??? Hell no, forget about this one already.



He used a Fire barrier for starters, and hes weaking a mask, i dont know what the hell him using Fire techniques matters,,, he actually hasnt used anything but his Kamui because of how overpowered it is, there is no point in using anything else,,, he isnt even using the damn Rinnegan yet.



These questions were all easy to answer, and no plothole is yet in place as you simply can't possibly go ahead and say that Obito is purely Obito.

Even the last line of the chapter seems to suggest that Obito is nothing more than a name....


According to Kishi both Madara and 'Obito' know each other.

So Madara has something to do with Obito,

Did he pick up his dead body and take it as his own by fusing Zetzu into and put him under some kind of Genjutsu to control him until today?

Did Obito survive by himself but Madara found it to heal him and brainwash him possible because of Rin's death?


There is much more left to be explained, but people are all jumping to conclusions way too quickly, Obito mere just be a body and a name right now, nothing more.

And it would make sense as Itachi referred to madara as a mere shell of his former self, and the last line of the chapter only refers to Obito as a name and not a person.

Please wait till next week.

I like this. Kudos, dude. But only one problem, in that one instance he couldn't have fully completed a stage of Sharingan & skip to the Mangekyou all in one leap... That's just ludicrous. That's just like giving Sasuke the Rinnegan when he didn't even attain the EMS. Makes no sense at all.. I'm willing to wait, but until then I'ma state my views on this because he tore through many timelines. And I'd rather not think of there being another "Tobi". And not Madara because chances are he died after giving Nagato the Rinnegan before Obito was born. Otherwise... +rep for you
 

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are u crazy?he is not 14.that happened 16 years before.now kakashi is 30.so obito is 30.so 30-16=24,so obito was 24 years.

Um... last time i checked, 30-16=14.. LMAO!! Go learn math first, then try to apply it on a forum.
 

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This forum is in complete and utter bitch-mode. Wow.
 
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I love how everyone still think's Tobi is Obito even though Kishi himself said in an interview Tobi is Izuna. He even said that these next couple chapters might be confusing because of that (referring to the "revelation" of Tobi being Obito)
 
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This manga has been going downhill for awhile now man. It's so rushed and the fact that he doesnt care enough think this crap through is also very sad. he just wants the manga done and thats not a really loyal thing to do to people who have been so divoted to the manga. I will not be interested in anything else he ever makes. He has become S#*t in my book. Years of naruto watching, enjoying, and for some defending. Just to be served a crappy "easy way out" ending we all kind new was coming.
 
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