[Theory] I'm convinced the One Piece treasure isn't on earth.

[ultraChalk]

since it's this material thing at the end of the Grand Line there's no possible way that it can be on earth. Like 10... 15? Years passed before Luffy got started on his voyage and the military or any other pirate has yet to find it. I just find that ridiculous.

It had to be their no. 1 priority at one point to find it so that they could stop the age of the Pirates from terrorizing the world, and they had ALL the necessary resources to do so. And even if it wasn't, they still had all the means to do so. I mean Gol D. Roger literally tells everybody where it is and the gov hasn't found it yet with all their resources..? I doubt that. My point being they would have captured it by now if it was.

So what I think is that One Piece is on another planet, dimension, center of the earth highest, abandoned sky island, or the past, and that what lies at the end of the grand line is the means to get there. Perhaps he left the 'means' with his old crew mates who have some special 'key' or 'code' of sorts, or something else.

But the actual One Piece as far as I'm concerned cannot possibly be on earth. What do you think?

 

[loj]

Ehh I don't even think so much about it.

I want it to be a surprise which will hype the shiet out of me

 

[Ripple Hole]

Enel is Pirate King.
jk, I think OP's world/earth is big enough to support tons of uncharted islands,
such as how the white island Dragon is located on was talked about prior to it
being revealed as if it were a fairy tale.

I'd also like to think it's under water tbh, but it's more likely that it requires the language
used in the poneglyphs, since Roger's crew seemed to be the only one that had a way to
understand the poneglyphs(Roger heard their voices).

I'm pretty sure in the long run getting to Raftel involves learning about the Void
Century, going by what Raleigh had told to Robin. I'm also believing this because
Roger knew what the "D" stood for after he got to Raftel, when he held his conversation
with WB, even though none of the "D"s thus far have a clue what it means.

 

[Skull Knight]

I think Raftel is Gol D Roger ship which is still sailing in OPverse and Roger ship must have some kind of mysterious power like fog which hide it from any pirate/ marines. That's why nobody has still found/reached Raftel.

 

[Aquamarsh]

It will be funny if one piece was basically just dirt or something like that.

 

[Luciform]

It will be funny if one piece was basically just dirt or something like that.

Or maybe it is not a physical thing

 

[chopstickchakra]

since it's this material thing at the end of the Grand Line there's no possible way that it can be on earth. Like 10... 15? Years passed before Luffy got started on his voyage and the military or any other pirate has yet to find it. I just find that ridiculous.

It had to be their no. 1 priority at one point to find it so that they could stop the age of the Pirates from terrorizing the world, and they had ALL the necessary resources to do so. And even if it wasn't, they still had all the means to do so. I mean Gol D. Roger literally tells everybody where it is and the gov hasn't found it yet with all their resources..? I doubt that. My point being they would have captured it by now if it was.

So what I think is that One Piece is on another planet, dimension, center of the earth highest, abandoned sky island, or the past, and that what lies at the end of the grand line is the means to get there. Perhaps he left the 'means' with his old crew mates who have some special 'key' or 'code' of sorts, or something else.

But the actual One Piece as far as I'm concerned cannot possibly be on earth. What do you think?

If something is hidden in the past then it's still present in the present. That's a terrible hiding spot.

 

[ultraChalk]

If something is hidden in the past then it's still present in the present. That's a terrible hiding spot.

Not necessarily. It could self destruct after a set amount of time if not activated, or have been destroyed, or stolen or something.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Not necessarily. It could self destruct after a set amount of time if not activated, or have been destroyed, or stolen or something.

If it was hid in the past then destroyed Roger would know by the time of his death that the OP isn't existing anymore and thus wouldn't ever make the claim that it exists therefore we can rule out that possibility. If Roger went 50 years back and hid a treasure than 50 years later it would still be there and if it was stolen then Roger again wouldn't make the claim he hid it.

 

[Bijuu Sennin Uzumaki]

The voyage itself is One piece, Travel the all blue's which end on Raftel it is the island at the end of the Grand Line which supposedly holds the treasure One Piece.

Raftel is possibly the final destination....

 

[Bijuu Sennin Uzumaki]

As I see it, there is a trick to it. Roger wanted to tell Whitebeard how you get there, but Whitebeard didn't want to hear it. One Piece is Roger's will and dream, which will be inherited by someone at a later point, and Whitbeard knew that he was not the one. He knows that it has something to do with the inherited will and that someone else will do it. At that time, nobody had inherited his will, but we now know that Luffy has, which means he is somewhat "destined" to become the next Pirate King.

I don't think reaching Raftel has anything to do with having powerful devil fruits. Maybe something that helps with your navigation would be handy, since I think reaching Raftel will be Nami's biggest challenge. I also don't think that Blackbeard will reach Raftel. I think there will be a final battle between the two crews, but I don't think it would be on Raftel. But who knows? This is just speculation, since we don't even have any clues yet. We still have 10 years to go

 

[DevilKing II]

Getting out of Grandline after conquering it and retiring to one of the four rather peaceful seas is a treasure in itself.

 

[Caliburn]

since it's this material thing at the end of the Grand Line there's no possible way that it can be on earth. Like 10... 15? Years passed before Luffy got started on his voyage and the military or any other pirate has yet to find it. I just find that ridiculous.

It had to be their no. 1 priority at one point to find it so that they could stop the age of the Pirates from terrorizing the world, and they had ALL the necessary resources to do so. And even if it wasn't, they still had all the means to do so. I mean Gol D. Roger literally tells everybody where it is and the gov hasn't found it yet with all their resources..? I doubt that. My point being they would have captured it by now if it was.

So what I think is that One Piece is on another planet, dimension, center of the earth highest, abandoned sky island, or the past, and that what lies at the end of the grand line is the means to get there. Perhaps he left the 'means' with his old crew mates who have some special 'key' or 'code' of sorts, or something else.

But the actual One Piece as far as I'm concerned cannot possibly be on earth. What do you think?

Your reasoning is severely flawed and also contradictory.

They did not have all the necessary resources nor the means. The latter half of the grand line is the most chaotic and most dangerous place in the world where pirates have a large amount of influence and where there are many countries who are strong enough to take care of themselves. Trying to take control over this entire sea is borderline impossible. Don't forget that the reason as why Gol D Roger was called the Pirate King was because he was the first person in history to conquer the New World by reaching Raftel. Raftel is almost as mythical as the OP. In the end Roger was the one who created the idea of "OP". He merely proclaimed that he left all his wealth, the OP, on Raftel. So for the average pirate the OP is the treasure Roger collected and left on the mythical island Raftel that's located in a place that's near impossible to reach.

If the WG really would have had the means to reach the end of the Grand Line, they could have done that decades before Roger was even born. The reality is simply that reaching Raftel is an almost impossible task. Not only them, but almost everyone has failed at it.

Your reasoning is that because no one has find it by now, it must be somewhere else, but that logic can only apply if the entire latter half of the Grand Line has been charted, which is not the case. A large part of this ocean is unexplored because it's that difficult. The only way you can claim that the OP is not there is if you have checked the entire territory and it's nowhere to be found. Considering this has not been the case, your reasoning becomes invalid. You seem to be severely underestimating the New World.

Also there really is no difference in an island with the OP on it and an island with some kind of portal to the OP. If you can't find the first, you're not going to be able to find the latter.

 

[ultraChalk]

If it was hid in the past then destroyed Roger would know by the time of his death that the OP isn't existing anymore and thus wouldn't ever make the claim that it exists therefore we can rule out that possibility. If Roger went 50 years back and hid a treasure than 50 years later it would still be there and if it was stolen then Roger again wouldn't make the claim he hid it.

Uh no it's still not ruled out. I'm not about to go into super depth about a baseless thought to begin with but in the event that it is destroyed in the past, One Piece would be the tool required to go back and find it so it would still be there just in another time.