I'm Calling It Suigetsu ****ed Up and Where the Hell is Mitsuki?

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Mitsuki is training so he can solo his opposition.
 

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Goods points. I have no doubt that Sakura is Sarada's mom. I wouldn't be surprised if Karin had some of Sasuke's DNA with her, back in Part 2 after the Deidara battle she even had a piece of his ripped clothes with her, which Jugo pointed out.

Should the opinion of a blatant SS fan that supports whatever insane thing Sasuke does be taken seriously?
 

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As far as the DNA test goes, then it's either this:

The Red Herring is not for Sakura; it's for Karin. Orochimaru is using karin's body. I compared the facial structures yesterday and day before yesterday to confirm this. The tilt of the head, her mysterious absence from the main compound, and Orochimaru's clone experiments with Shin ... it seems to fit nicely together. Also, the fact that 1) Chouchou couldn't guess whether Orochimaru looked like a man or a woman, gives an indication that he is using a female body most likely and 2) Suigetsu thinks that Karin is on some other hideout is also solid enough reason to cement this argument; he doesn't exactly know where she is.

So Orochimaru either 1) gave birth to Sarada, through some freakish Kishimoto developed science, or 2) she's an experiment that uses Sasuke and Karin's Dna. Sasuke most probably found her on his travels. That's what I think anyway. But this route seems to be too dark for a Shonen manga, especially the exploration of sexual boundaries through Orochimaru; a very very complex topic for a manga like Naruto. Too complex, in fact.

Or this:

The Red Herring is for Sakura. If one looks at it from this angle, then it has been a pathetic red herring from the start:

- Salad questions whether Sakura is her mom or not for no reason at all. The first red herring premise. It happens world over that people marry through arranged marriages and fathers go abroad and they can't come back for a considerable time. Sometimes more than a decade.

- Sakura loses her cool, enough, to punch the ground for no reason, and conviniently, the whole house is destroyed and Salad sees the cracked picture out of the entire rumble.

- Sakura faints before she can answer, and conviniently doesn't wake up before Salad doesn't leave.

- When she meets up with them, and seems ready to answer Salada's questions, Sakura is conveniently taken away.

- When Salad shows up at the compound, the one person that can say yes or no, isn't at the compound but somewhere else.

- Suigetsu probably didn't mess up, and Sakura was given Karin's Dna for the birth. Since we don't know where Sakura gave birth, it could very well have been out of the village, as she wanted to travel with Sasuke.

Karin may have overseen the birth and helped. Not very far-fetched.

If Kishimoto is going for this Sasuke x Karin route, then he has a cheap way of showing it as this has low-key red herring written all over it. Not to mention the fact that I can't see an out of wed-lock affair happening in a manga aimed at 12 year olds. This would be too realistic and too crude for such type of manga with very low rating bar.

This can be titled in so many ways, as the confirming part either isn't there, or simply chose not to say anything. Nothing is confirmed at the moment.
 
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Should the opinion of a blatant SS fan that supports whatever insane thing Sasuke does be taken seriously?

i never cared about the pairings nor thought about them until i came to this site where people constantly talk about it.

I figured Naruto,and Sakura would get together,and Sasuke would get with Ino. But that didn't happen.

Now i'm using logic/facts to piece things together as i always do. But you're just upset that i support Sasuke, and don't complain about things so you specifically decided to attack me.

Should the opinion of an unreasonable low intellectual biased guy matter to me?

Nope. Look at my comment and look at yours, i formed my comment from going over logic/facts whereas you didn't bring logic/facts, you only responded to demean me cause you think negatively, and want to complain whereas i don't, and am saying stuff you don't want to see.
 
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Lol, i never cared about the pairings nor thought about them until i came to this site where people constantly talk about it.

I figured Naruto,and Sakura would get together,and Sasuke would get with Ino. But that didn't happen.

Now i'm using logic/facts to piece things togther as i always do. But you're just upset that i support Sasuke,and don't complain about things so you specifically decided to attack me.

Should the opinion of an unreasonable low intellectual biased guy matter to me?

Nope.

Like when you argued that Sasuke would somehow beat Naruto at the end and that Sasuke's insane and selfish plan was the right thing to do?
 

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Like when you argued that Sasuke would somehow beat Naruto at the end and that Sasuke's insane and selfish plan was the right thing to do?

Logically Sasuke should have beaten Naruto. I could easily explain but i'm not doing it here.

Sasuke's planned was formed based on the history of the Shinobi world, and his life. I don't remember ever saying his plan was the right way to do things, i do remember saying it was understandable.

And no it's not selfish to sacrafice your life/personal happiness, and play the role of the bad guy to unite everyone so they would work together and live in peace.
 

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Logically Sasuke should have beaten Naruto. I could easily explain but i'm not doing it here.

Sasuke's planned was formed based on the history of the Shinobi world, and his life. I don't remember ever saying his plan was the right way to do things, i do remember saying it was understandable.

And no it's not selfish to sacrafice your life/personal happiness, and play the role of the bad guy to unite everyone so they would work together and live in peace.

Okay, explain the logic behind Sasuke beating the main character of a shonen series in the end, explain this magic logic that very, veeery, few series in any media actually use and end with. And, you know what is selfish? Sacrificing other innocent people's lives because you blame the world for your family dying. Do you not realize the paradox (and lack of sanity) in a plan that requires never ending war to create eternal peace? Do you honestly believe the world would care about the kages and Naruto long enough to keep being at war with Sasuke? Do you not realize that war is the literal opposite of peace? Yeah, the plan was selfish and pretty stupid too.
 

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Bleep Mitsuki. Where the hell are Shikadai and Inojin? And Himawari?

Kishi goofed up making a new character this late in the ball game. We didn't need another new character for him to ignore. We need Kishi to explore the next gen beyond Sarada and Cho Cho.
 
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Bleep Mitsuki. Where the hell are Shikadai and Inojin? And Himawari?

Kishi goofed up making a new character this late in the ball game. We didn't need another new character for him to ignore. We need Kishi to explore the next gen beyond Sarada and Cho Cho.

That's a good point actually haha! I guess I focused on Mitsuki because he is mysterious whereas the others tend to be very similar to there parents(atleast in ch700 and except Himawari). I don't think it's a mistake he just has to expand on them more. Granted it's difficult in only 10 chapters.
 
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