If Tobirama had not been born . ....

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1) He would not have killed Izuna which caused Madara to go bonkers
2) Madara would have been the second Homage and the Uchiha would have been happy
3) He would not have sidelined Uchiha , fostering their resentment for the village
4) No Edo Tensei :- Which means one war could have been prevented
5) Minato also won't be Hokage level then

( Don't take this as a bashing thread. I have much more respect for Tobirama then I have for Hiruzen and Tsunade. He is a badass, this is just a what if scenario )
 

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Madara would still find how many flaws does the world have,his "realization" would eventually come after learning about the world,bedsides black zetsu is still there and could've manipulated any other uchiha character

either way you still have a point,tobiroma not existing would change alot of things
 

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If Tobirama had not done those things then what would have been the point of the story?

Minat would not be Hokage, Obito won't be influenced by Madara and he would have rin, the 9 tails would never be sealed inside naruto, the akatsuki would exist but they would not hunt down tailed beasts, everything would be normal and it wouldn't be a famous manga.
 

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If Tobirama had not done those things then what would have been the point of the story?

Minat would not be Hokage, Obito won't be influenced by Madara and he would have rin, the 9 tails would never be sealed inside naruto, the akatsuki would exist but they would not hunt down tailed beasts, everything would be normal and it wouldn't be a famous manga.

Sounds like a happy ending right there
 

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Sounds like a happy ending right there

I suppose in a plot-point of view it does seem pretty good since no sh!t would have went down.

I wonder how many more things would not have happened if Madara himself was not created or Hashirama.
 

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I suppose in a plot-point of view it does seem pretty good since no sh!t would have went down.

I wonder how many more things would not have happened if Madara himself was not created or Hashirama.
If Madara / Hashirama would not have been there the other clan would have dominated. Still resentment would have been there
 

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If Tobirama had never been born, he wouldn't have been lolstomped by Kinkaku and Pikachu and negged by a bunch of Kumo fodders.
 

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If Tobirama had never been born, he wouldn't have been lolstomped by Kinkaku and Pikachu and negged by a bunch of Kumo fodders.

You underestimate his role.
 

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***** please , Minato would have been Hokage with or without Tobirama , a genius like him isn't born to stay outside of the Hokage chain .

OP : If you wasn't born then this retarded thread would not have been here .
 

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And don't forget about Danzo. Danzo inherited his will and up the ante.
 

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***** please , Minato would have been Hokage with or without Tobirama , a genius like him isn't born to stay outside of the Hokage chain .

OP : If you wasn't born then this retarded thread would not have been here .

A dead hokage guy is noting without ftg and hirashin a and bee would have stomped him hard leaf be weakened by Iwas attack no 4th to take on the whole army
 

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***** please , Minato would have been Hokage with or without Tobirama , a genius like him isn't born to stay outside of the Hokage chain .

OP : If you wasn't born then this retarded thread would not have been here .
If I hadn't been born this thread would have not been there True. Minato soloed the war due to FTG and thus was named Hokage, with no FTG , I don't see that happening
 

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If Tobirama had never been born, he wouldn't have been lolstomped by Kinkaku and Pikachu and negged by a bunch of Kumo fodders.

Pikachu lolstomps Tobirama confirmed.
 

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*Sight* U_U FTG Was Originally Minato's Jutsu Then Kishi Decided To Give It To Tobirama.
No Tobirama = Minato Would've Been The Creator & Sole User Of FTG.

A dead hokage guy is noting without ftg and hirashin a and bee would have stomped him hard leaf be weakened by Iwas attack no 4th to take on the whole army
No 4th = No One To Create Rasengan,No One To Seal Kyuubi Inside Naruto,No One For Naruto To Look Up To...Therefore Naruto Would've Been A Fodder,Hell He Wouldn't Been Born At The First Place Lol
 
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If I hadn't been born this thread would have not been there True. Minato soloed the war due to FTG and thus was named Hokage, with no FTG , I don't see that happening

Butterfly effect. You can't change the past and expect the present to be the same. For all we know he would have learned different techniques. Everything changes when you remove a big factor from the past. You said the future would be different for the Uchiha and wars and such. The same counts towards Minato and anything else. Would he have been Hokage? Maybe, maybe not, there is no certainty.
 
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Butterfly effect. You can't change the past and expect the present to be the same. For all we know he would have learned different techniques. Everything changes when you remove a big factor from the past. You said the future would be different for the Uchiha and wars and such. The same counts towards Minato and anything else. Would he have been Hokage? Maybe, maybe not, there is no certainty.
Minato ascended because he soloed in d war. With stability that should not happen, I think he could have still become Hokage , but much later
 

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You miunderstand. No Tobirama , no madara, stable environment, no need for Minato to learn FTG. He would just chill
First Of All He Would've Been The Creator Not Just Learning It...Second Of All He Wanted To Become Hokage Even As A Child So He Would've Learned Every Jutsu He Can.
 
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