If There Were No Laws Would You Still Be A Good Person?

[Deadlift]

Wrestling is fake and scripted so that is just two sweaty men hugging. Again not aggressive.

Yes but Lesnar is badass regardless

 

[Sonnelion]

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I thought we were cool Claymantan why are you doing this?

That would be facking badass tbh. I'm totally joining.

A lot more people would be killing but the fear of going to Hell would keep them in check.

I've stated I'm not afraid of Hell and we all know atheist aren't because they don't believe it exist. So what's keeping people in check again?

i would definitly rape some girls. SOME girls are so annoying.

and definitly take life of the people that have ruined it anyway already. like People who used drugs and wonder around the night annoying me and asking me dumb questions. without rules i would ****ing murder these druged fkers

So you mean out of all the people you chose the lowest of the low people not the ones that actually deserve to die i.e. Trump and his supporters.

 

[Sonnelion]

Yes but Lesnar is badass regardless

He was when he was in UFC because the fights were real especially in the game he was broken.

 

[SSStylish]

So you mean out of all the people you chose the lowest of the low people not the ones that actually deserve to die i.e. Trump and his supporters.

You don't mean that, do you? :|

 

[DominiqueX]

A lot more people would be killing but the fear of going to Hell would keep them in check.

Sure, because those millions of people who sit in prison for murdering someone were totally affraid of going to hell when they committed their crimes. What. xD

 

[Reraru]

I would be Robin Hood.

 

[Xlad]

I follow the Goldern Rule and believe in karma.

 

[Deadlift]

He was when he was in UFC because the fights were real especially in the game he was broken.

Performing a vertical suplex or a F5 on Big Show is much more breaking than broken

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Sure, because those millions of people who sit in prison for murdering someone were totally affraid of going to hell when they committed their crimes. What. xD

Is...is. That meant to be an argument? Have you thought about the fact that these people weren't religious .... or that they turn to religion after because "God always forgives you for your sins"? XD

More on this below.

I've stated I'm not afraid of Hell and we all know atheist aren't because they don't believe it exist. So what's keeping people in check again?

Cool...I wasn't talking about you though? Society, socialization and their resulting morale compass/values. Nature and nurture working together. Religion can be a part of someones up bringing and therefore play a part.

What silly arguments considering the wide range of religions and how strongly people believe as well as how much they believe they can twist their holy script to permit them to do w/e. E.g. Would Ned Flanders murder somebody? No. Religion is pretty much his life. Zombie Flanders? Yes. Zombies don't tend to care about religion that much. Same for a priest or w/e. How many murdering priests do you guys see?

It can be a factor guys. People fear death. That's why people can get religious in their later years.

 

[nefraiko]

The modern state apparatus, especially in its centralized form - the real consequential force behind the 'law' - is a very recent construct. It never existed a few hundred years back and even today, there are countless native peoples all over the world who live a communal life independent of the influence of any 'state.'

It turns out that in all state-less societies the consequence of misconduct lies with the people with whom potential criminals live. See, those people don't just sit around and let you do whatever you want, and any breach of conduct was usually, and in some places still is, replied with communally dished out 'punishment' far, far brutal than anything you typically see today.

A few hundred years back in England, murderers and rapists were often burned alive - and no state apparatus arbitrated that, it was all done by the local people in small villages. In rural places in many parts of the world this sort of brutal treatment is still in practice, and there is no state regulation of it.

When the criminals band together, the local people do what Pumpkin Ninja suggested - form their own non-criminal militias.

So I would be stupid to think that I could victimize anyone I wanted without inciting some reaction from the people with whom the victim lived.

Now this does not imply that the modern state apparatus has not reduced the frequency of crime (it certainly has). Rousseau was wrong in that the noble savage is a myth and primitive peoples were definitely orders of magnitude more violent than urbanized folk are today.

However, Hobbes was wrong too since the state of nature is not total individualistic savagery, or, at least, that state of affairs does not seem to persist for very long. Humans naturally establish order locally on their own, even if that sort of order doesn't accord very well with modern sensitivities.

blablablablabla law has always existed from the moment their was life. the only being that doesn't have to deal with law is a being that is so powerfull that no one or nothing can oblige him to a law, aka god, weither he exists or not.

so their is always a law, jungle law, laws of physic, the everyone dies law

 

[YellowFang]

I originate from a country where Laws are like meant to be broken, still I'm the black sheep...

 

[DominiqueX]

Is...is. That meant to be an argument? Have you thought about the fact that these people weren't religious .... or that they turn to religion after because "God always forgives you for your sins"? XD

More on this below.

You made it sound like everyone would be kept in check by the concept of hell. At least that's the way I understood your post. And that is not true since lots of people are not religious or spiritual and don't believe in a form of existence after death. An atheist probably won't care about heaven or hell.

 

[Phact]

Even if there are no laws i still have my religion. Islam has laws that i am forced to abide by.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

You made it sound like everyone would be kept in check by the concept of hell. At least that's the way I understood your post. And that is not true since lots of people are not religious or spiritual and don't believe in a form of existence after death. An atheist probably won't care about heaven or hell.

A lot more people would be killing but the fear of going to Hell would keep them in check.

Did I? :Sparks: a lot ≠ everyone

So there aren't a lot of religioun influenced people?

That's the point. An atheist isn't the "a lot" part. Even then they might hesitate an extra second or two if the thought crosses their mind. Agnostic atheists will believe in God if truth is presented. "What if I murder and then God reveals himself before humanity wipes itself out."XD

Even if there are no laws i still have my religion. Islam has laws that i am forced to abide by.

Exhibit no.1

Thank you, good sir.

 

[Deadlift]

It can be a factor guys. People fear death. That's why people can get religious in their later years.

If it wasn't that they never cared about religion so don't know anything about it, and their way of seeing religion becomes in a good 90% bigotism

You made it sound like everyone would be kept in check by the concept of hell. At least that's the way I understood your post. And that is not true since lots of people are not religious or spiritual and don't believe in a form of existence after death. An atheist probably won't care about heaven or hell.

I would be more prone to believe he would be desperate like Woody Allen

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

If it wasn't that they never cared about religion so don't know anything about it, and their way of seeing religion becomes in a good 90% bigotism



I would be more prone to believe he would be desperate like Woody Allen

Wha...how can you not know anything about religion when it's the very core of some educational facilities and included in the curriculum of every countries schools that I'm aware of. (At least to somr degree.)

What are you even saying XD you can't not know about and have an opinion on religion. How can you be of the opinion that you don't want anything to do with religion if you don't know what it is??

Bro..

 

[CrimsonReaper]

I think so as long as my living conditions and society don't force me to do things that i dont want to do.

 

[Deadlift]

Wha...how can you not know anything about religion when it's the very core of some educational facilities and included in the curriculum of every countries schools that I'm aware of. (At least to somr degree.)

What are you even saying XD you can't not know about and have an opinion on religion. How can you be of the opinion that you don't want anything to do with religion if you don't know what it is??

Bro..

I said what I said, though I don't know how are things like where you live, I come from a place where Christianity is just a veil over a background of paganism. It means you end up having people believing you can worship saints and angel, that the Holy Mary of Spain is not the same person as Holy Mary of Ireland because their artistic representation are different. It mean there are people who believe if you sorta try a hex invoking the name of God then it's ok, and that all the figures of pagan mitologies aka gnomes, fairies and so on are real and they have to do some rituals in order to keep them benevolent

 

[wanderingcactus]

ever played GTA V?

or seen the news?

just stay away from schools and cinemas. and slums.

All joking aside. It is not up to you whether or not you will stay good. Sometimes, you are forced to do something you don't ever want to be doing.

In anycase, one militant can just go nuts and start killing people. Or hell, precincts, bases, banks and etc, can all screw each other over.

Obvious move would be businesses taking advantage of such opportunities and killing any hindrance to their business.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I said what I said, though I don't know how are things like where you live, I come from a place where Christianity is just a veil over a background of paganism. It means you end up having people believing you can worship saints and angel, that the Holy Mary of Spain is not the same person as Holy Mary of Ireland because their artistic representation are different. It mean there are people who believe if you sorta try a hex invoking the name of God then it's ok, and that all the figures of pagan mitologies aka gnomes, fairies and so on are real and they have to do some rituals in order to keep them benevolent

But what you said didn't make sense? XD

Bro. Wtf, stop speaking in riddles. Pagans??? In this day and age pretending to be Christians but worshipping gnomes.

Is this memes?

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