If the Mysterious Figure is Shisui the Uchiha really did deserve to be exterminated

[JStar King]

The Uchiha were planning a coup in the village. That's the entire clan. I don't agree with the OP, but this isn't the best way to argue with it either.

Not everyone in the clan was in on it. Some were not Shinobi snd there had to be other children besides Sasuke, so that is bull.

 

[The Amazing Kaguya]

Uchiha Massacre was a tragedy. You would think with Hiruzen, Danzo, the Leaf jonin from respective clans and ANBU/ROOT, they would've had more than enough fire power to display as a show of force to dissuade Fugaku from his ambitions. But nope. Murder them all in their sleep.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

So a corpse is mutilated if organs are removed and transplanted into someone in need? Lel

They do it for gaining more and more power.

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What kind of savages kill and snatch eyes to gain more power, maybe its the result of all the inbreeding.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Nah, you misinterpret what he was saying. He also highly respected the Uchiha knowng there were many good people amongst the clan.




Everyone becomes angered,saddened etc over their comrades death for example, it's just that the Uchiha's awakened their Sharingan more,and became alot stronger during these events. That is what Tobirama was cautious of.

Also you do realize that the whole world was in the cycle of revenge,and hatred right? As Nagato said. You seem to act as if only the Uchiha had hatred,and wanted revenge. The whole world was like that, hence the multiple world wars,and clashes such as the Sand,and Sound teaming up to invade,and destroy Konoha.

But the main villains/antagonist are Uchiha so you act as if they're the only bad guys. Also 3 Uchiha = the entire history of Uchiha since Indra right? lol.

He named, like, three good Uchiha.

 

[SatanicGod]

Lol, so, because I don't worship Sasuke like you do I'm a "Sasuke hater"? Sasuke is actually my third favorite character, haha, dat fan logic tho

I don't worship Sasuke either, but I've seen some times when you take away feats from Sasuke and then constantly downplay him, that is what leads me to believe that you hate him :/

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I don't worship Sasuke either, but I've seen some times when you take away feats from Sasuke and then constantly downplay him, that is what leads me to believe that you hate him :/

Downplay him by saying things like the Revolution were stupid (and that he wouldn't realistically manage to kill THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SERIES), mentioning that he was, at many points, an insane ****, and that he should at least contact his child (screw Sakura)? He's entertaining to watch, but I don't agree with a lot of what his character does.

 

[SatanicGod]

Downplay him by saying things like the Revolution were stupid (and that he wouldn't realistically manage to kill THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SERIES), mentioning that he was, at many points, an insane ****, and that he should at least contact his child (screw Sakura)? He's entertaining to watch, but I don't agree with a lot of what his character does.

The Revolution idea actually makes sense if you think about it from his standpoint (only on paper though, kind of like the communism issue), I have a feeling that the parts where you call him insane would be parts that I consider his response to be reasonable so I'll just leave that at that, and from latest chapter, evidence points at Sakura never told him that he even has a child

 

[Darth Uchiha]

The Revolution idea actually makes sense if you think about it from his standpoint (only on paper though, kind of like the communism issue), I have a feeling that the parts where you call him insane would be parts that I consider his response to be reasonable so I'll just leave that at that, and from latest chapter, evidence points at Sakura never told him that he even has a child

No, when one honks about it, the Revolution plan is idiotic to the core, if anything, I doubt he actually had a plan: "I'll create everlasting peace by starting an eternal war!" k, Sasuke. And, reasonable? "About five people in a village of thousands are responsible for my family's death....welp, time to kill every last one of them" yup, pretty damn reasonable. Well, Sakura is sickening so I'll leave that one alone.

 

[SatanicGod]

No, when one honks about it, the Revolution plan is idiotic to the core, if anything, I doubt he actually had a plan: "I'll create everlasting peace by starting an eternal war!" k, Sasuke. And, reasonable? "About five people in a village of thousands are responsible for my family's death....welp, time to kill every last one of them" yup, pretty damn reasonable. Well, Sakura is sickening so I'll leave that one alone.

In theory, he would make everybody have a common enemy, just like how in the Fourth Shinobi War all former enemies became allies in order to defeat Tobi and Akatsuki, it would be doing the sane thing except replace Tobi and Akatsuki, with Sasuke
Yes it is, he saw it as everybody is laughing, happy, and ridiculing Itachi about his sacrifice for the village, he wants them all to know how much his brother was hurting... If you look deeper into it, you can basically see how there was a parallel between Itachi and Sasuke there, how there were innocent people who never intended on being a part of the coup within the clan yet they were still ordered to be killed in cold blood. Just like there are innocent people who weren't involved with the massacre, yet he intended on killing them in cold blood just like the innocent Uchiha's who were killed

 

[Darth Uchiha]

In theory, he would make everybody have a common enemy, just like how in the Fourth Shinobi War all former enemies became allies in order to defeat Tobi and Akatsuki, it would be doing the sane thing except replace Tobi and Akatsuki, with Sasuke
Yes it is, he saw it as everybody is laughing, happy, and ridiculing Itachi about his sacrifice for the village, he wants them all to know how much his brother was hurting... If you look deeper into it, you can basically see how there was a parallel between Itachi and Sasuke there, how there were innocent people who never intended on being a part of the coup within the clan yet they were still ordered to be killed in cold blood. Just like there are innocent people who weren't involved with the massacre, yet he intended on killing them in cold blood just like the innocent Uchiha's who were killed

Yes...the Shinobi World War...in which thousands of people died...not making a great case for yourself. And, they weren't laughing at Itachi or ridiculing him, their only actual crime was being alive after the massacre, it was Sasuke being freaking insane that made him think they were evil for that. Also, we were never told of Uchiha that weren't in on it, never shown any, and there really wasn't any reason to believe they weren't all in on it.

 

[FreeTanner17]

Let's put it this way, we already know how uchihas get their power.... They love so much that when they lose it, a chemical change occurs in their brain giving them the sharingan. Now, we also know that the uchihas were planning a coup. You can say that this was only during that time period, but you would also be wrong and stupid. That hatred of the uchihas towards the village and everyone else had been growing and building up for a long time. It could have been prevented of danzo hadn't pushed the third around like he wasn't even hokage, but obito was still around. In the long run the world would have been better off had Indra died and never transmigrated. Ashura on the other hand only wanted cooperation, so yeah... The world would have been much better off.

 

[SSStylish]

This sounds like something a psycho would say. No wonder something like that comes from you, I'm used to it by now

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[Darth Uchiha]

This sounds like something a psycho would say. No wonder something like that comes from you, I'm used to it by now

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So, saying a clan where we've only been shown about three good members, in which murdering your own clansmen for power was a common practice, and was willing to start a rebellion that could have created a world war (for petty reasons) was a threat the world was better off without makes me a psycho?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I don't act like anything. It's Kishi who makes every Uchiha turn villain and the cause was given by the author, through Tobirama. If we were to pile up the list of crimes committed by Uchiha, vs the list of crimes committed by Nagato/Pein, Orochimaru, Kabuto and Kaguya, what would we find?

So basically a few Uchiha's = the whole clan. Because a few turned bad, that means they're all bad. Anyone can become bad,and commit crimes,and yeah Orochimaru,and Kabuto commited more crimes than any Uchiha besides Obito and Madara.

They do it for gaining more and more power.

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What kind of savages kill and snatch eyes to gain more power, maybe its the result of all the inbreeding.

You do realize Itachi was purposefully trying to make Sasuke dislike Madara right? He even said Madara forcefully took Izuna's eyes, we know from the Hashirama/Madara flashback that that isn't true.

Lol, so many Uchiha took each others eyes yet only Madara had ever awakened the EMS? It was said only a few Uchiha ever awakener the MS.

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It was even said the Sharingan was awakened by a select few.

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Also post a scan where it says they inbred.

He named, like, three good Uchiha.

Yeah so i guess that means they were only ever 3 Uchiha which is why Hashirama was able to make peace with them,and decided to live in Konoha with them.

Downplay him by saying things like the Revolution were stupid (and that he wouldn't realistically manage to kill THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SERIES), mentioning that he was, at many points, an insane ****, and that he should at least contact his child (screw Sakura)? He's entertaining to watch, but I don't agree with a lot of what his character does.

His revolution was flawed but it was reasonable for him to have come up with it based in the history of the shinobi world.

Yes,he wouldn't kill Naruto do to plot,hence final battle.

The only time you could say he was insane was during the Kage summit arc, where he was simply angry about his families massacre.

Yes...the Shinobi World War...in which thousands of people died...not making a great case for yourself. And, they weren't laughing at Itachi or ridiculing him, their only actual crime was being alive after the massacre, it was Sasuke being freaking insane that made him think they were evil for that. Also, we were never told of Uchiha that weren't in on it, never shown any, and there really wasn't any reason to believe they weren't all in on it.

They would all be against just Sasuke dude, that is different from them fighting against a whole army of Zetsu's and Edo's,plus Tobi,Madara,and the Juubi.

Sasuke would not kill innocent people like The Akatsuki did in the war. How is it that you don't notice these obvious differences? It's like you are trying not to understand.

Also surely Sasuke wasn't the only Uchiha child. The only reason he wasn't killed aswell was because he is Itachi's little brother. Danzo used that against Sasuke.

Let's put it this way, we already know how uchihas get their power.... They love so much that when they lose it, a chemical change occurs in their brain giving them the sharingan. Now, we also know that the uchihas were planning a coup. You can say that this was only during that time period, but you would also be wrong and stupid. That hatred of the uchihas towards the village and everyone else had been growing and building up for a long time. It could have been prevented of danzo hadn't pushed the third around like he wasn't even hokage, but obito was still around. In the long run the world would have been better off had Indra died and never transmigrated. Ashura on the other hand only wanted cooperation, so yeah... The world would have been much better off.

There was only hatred towards the village from some Uchiha because of Danzo having them sectioned off for years despite being loyal to Konoha. That is the only reason why they planned the Coup - they were being treated unfairly.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I know, i was saying he had first planned to kill Naruto to gain the MS, then he decided not to even though he had the chance.



1)The Uchiha's weren't sensitive, everyone becomes angered,saddened etc over their comrades death for example, it's just that the Uchiha's awakened their Sharingan more,and became alot stronger during these events. That is what Tobirama was cautious of.

2)I know that as i said in my other comments, Sasuke decided not to kill for power even though he had the chance, and Sasuke's attempt at killing Naruto at the beginning of Part 2 was simply to get rid of a nuisance, not to gain power.



Yeah, and he would have decided to take the dark path due to the messed up Shinobi world that had his older brother murder their whole family,and the truth to the massacre hidden away.

Except the Uchihas had stronger love and stronger hatred than a normal person as Tobirama told Sasuke

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. Yes it wasn't all Uchiha but Tobirama said there were many sensitive members

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. Obito even said some Uchihas wanted to start a rebellion

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. Madara words to Obito even fits in with what Tobirama said to Sasuke

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[Char Aznable]

So basically a few Uchiha's = the whole clan. Because a few turned bad, that means they're all bad. Anyone can become bad,and commit crimes,and yeah Orochimaru,and Kabuto commited more crimes than any Uchiha besides Obito and Madara.

The entire clan was wiped out because of the violence they intended to commit. An execution sanctioned by Danzo and Hiruzen and carried out by Itachi and Obito.