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No, as long as the technique is active and there is chakra in her seal the regenration process will always work. Now as far Chidori being inside of her body while the regenration process is in tact, will hold no effect over its instantaneous healing effects. The only con would be the vast amounts of chakra being and possibly an exhausted body.
Hmmmm.,
No! Tsunade servived her spin being severed, 3rd degree burns and a implaement directly to her heart all based on the mechanics of her seals healing techniques. It does not matter how deadly the injury is, she will regenerate!
The technique will always regenerate her, but it cannot prevent instant death. Fry up all her organs and Sakura would not last enough to survive
Not all at once though. She was cut in half, but was still able to move her upper half to summon Katsuyu. In this case the spike goes through the middle of her back, destroying the middle of her spine as well as the lower side. Sakura would not be able to move and thus she would not be able to take those spikes off her to heal herself. You can say everything you want regarding Byakugou's feats and how great it is. One's organs cannot grow where a giant spike of wood is. Two things cannot ocupy the same space. It is impossible in every definition of the word for anything short of an immortal being to survive that blow.
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Being hit by lightning or having being injured by it; you probably assume that a it would strike, hit you, maneuver through your body and that’s it. You’re dead but in fact many people survive lightening based injuries, but often with long-lasting neurological damage so the idea that you instantly did from being electrocuted is false. (2) Byakugou healing abilities HEALS ANY DAMAGE MADE TO THE BODY. Frying organs or organs being burned, impaled or removed doesn't negate anything.,
"A body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means.."
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Genesis* Rebirth (創造再生, Souzou Saisei)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary
User: Tsunade
The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu~~ a "forbidden regeneration technique"!
Created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, this is the ultimate regeneration technique!! By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human body!
If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means... for the sake of continuing to protect the lives of one's comrades. That's the resolution hidden in this technique.
[picture of Tsunade releasing her Yin Seal** and performing this technique]
↑By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.
This wound may have brought her on the verge of death, but she won't die~~
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's shoulder healing]
↑↓The acceleration of cell division that allows for the complete recovery from wounds is paid for with the shortening of one's life span.
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's chest healing]
*Souzou means "creation". Especially a deity's creation of the world and everything in it. It isn't specifically the Christian Genesis, though. It can be applied to any religion. For example, the creation of Japan by the gods Izanagi and Izanami in Shinto is also called "souzou". I simply chose to use the word "Genesis" because I like the sound of it.
**Yin Seal (陰封印, In Fuuin). The diamond-shaped seal on Tsunade's forehead.
"When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition.(Instant regeneration)"
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Ninja Art Creation Rebirth — Strength of a Hundred Technique (忍法創造再生 百豪の術, Ninpō Sōzō Saisei — Byakugō no Jutsu)
1st Classification: Ninjutsu
2nd Classification: —
Main User(s): Tsunade, Sakura Haruno
Class: Supplementary
Range: —
Rank: S-Rank
Heading: —
For several years using the highest most precise Chakra control(BM user have the best chakra control), a fixed amount is stored in the Byakugō seal. The Chakra is usually put to use to regenerate the body through the technique Sōzō Saisei, the combination results in the ultimate regeneration technique.(BM>Juubi Jin in regeneration)
The seal was able to regenerate the body, despite Tsunade's Chakra quantity being less, than the enormous Chakra quantity of the First Hokage.
When Ninpō Sōzō Saisei is used at the same time as Byakugō no Jutsu, it becomes possible to use it (Sōzō Saisei) over a long period of time. When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition.(Instant regeneration)
↑→ Release the Chakra stored in ones forehead. Wounds completely recover, while at the same time ones own power rises, however cell division quickens, which shortens ones life span.
Based on what? But to oblige you, your incorrect.
Both of Tsunades arms that were his by Madara's Katon regenerated at the same time & speed when the Strength of a Hundred was active.
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When Tsunade activated creation rebirth against Orochimaru it healed the damage to her heart and stab wounds at the same time as well.
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(1) no regenative techniques were active when Tsunade was bisected (2) She delegated the majority of her chakra to healing the other kages so using the technique(s) weren't in her plans.
Tsunade has regenerated form those things.
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Based on what? This is nothing but a assumption on your part but yes she would be able to remove those spikes from her body just how Tsunade removed Madara's Susanoo blades herself. It would be painful though so I'd say that the determine factor if she can tolerate the pain good enough to move and if she's with a team they could always do it for her.
That's why you would need to remove it.
Step one: remove that thing
Step two: you regenerate
I've proved you wrong (refer to the responses of above) the peep the databook pages.,
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Rebirth (創造再生, Souzou Saisei)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary
User: Tsunade
The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu~~ a "forbidden regeneration technique"!
Created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, this is the ultimate regeneration technique!! By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human body!
If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means... for the sake of continuing to protect the lives of one's comrades. That's the resolution hidden in this technique.
[picture of Tsunade releasing her Yin Seal** and performing this technique]
↑By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.
This wound may have brought her on the verge of death, but she won't die~~
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's shoulder healing]
↑↓The acceleration of cell division that allows for the complete recovery from wounds is paid for with the shortening of one's life span.
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's chest healing]
*Souzou means "creation". Especially a deity's creation of the world and everything in it. It isn't specifically the Christian Genesis, though. It can be applied to any religion. For example, the creation of Japan by the gods Izanagi and Izanami in Shinto is also called "souzou". I simply chose to use the word "Genesis" because I like the sound of it.
**Yin Seal (陰封印, In Fuuin). The diamond-shaped seal on Tsunade's forehead.
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Ninja Art Creation Rebirth — Strength of a Hundred Technique (忍法創造再生 百豪の術, Ninpō Sōzō Saisei — Byakugō no Jutsu)
1st Classification: Ninjutsu
2nd Classification: —
Main User(s): Tsunade, Sakura Haruno
Class: Supplementary
Range: —
Rank: S-Rank
Heading: —
For several years using the highest most precise Chakra control(BM user have the best chakra control), a fixed amount is stored in the Byakugō seal. The Chakra is usually put to use to regenerate the body through the technique Sōzō Saisei, the combination results in the ultimate regeneration technique.(BM>Juubi Jin in regeneration)
The seal was able to regenerate the body, despite Tsunade's Chakra quantity being less, than the enormous Chakra quantity of the First Hokage.
When Ninpō Sōzō Saisei is used at the same time as Byakugō no Jutsu, it becomes possible to use it (Sōzō Saisei) over a long period of time. When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition.(Instant regeneration)
↑→ Release the Chakra stored in ones forehead. Wounds completely recover, while at the same time ones own power rises, however cell division quickens, which shortens ones life span.
I don't think she can.
The databook says this:
By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.
No matter the number of years, the body doesn't have the ability to recreate a new heart from an obliterated one.
The databook says this:
By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.
No matter the number of years, the body doesn't have the ability to recreate a new heart from an obliterated one.
Well, of course, normal lightning is one thing. Its survivable. We're talking however about Sasuke's Chidori.
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Of course, that was not the power which Sakura was hit with, but chanel one hundredth of that damage into a human body and no matter how skilled a healer you are, down they go.
Okay, you're really arguing this. Lets take a look at that image again.
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Lets say it somehow missed her spine entirely or that she is able to move with it in that condition. First off, the spike is branching itself, making it far harder to remove than Madara's sword without causing more damage. Both ones that hit Neji also decimated almost every single organ portrayed here.
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Say she removes it and heals herself there are still a dozen ways she could die. Immense ammounts of blood loss, regeneration cannot cover that, she would have to be equiped with blood pills or something to solve it. Her lungs reforming would also be problematic, as it would possibly end up with her drowning in her own blood. The broken pieces of her bones still being inside of her body as she regenerates herself. The stomach acid she'd lose, which normally takes weeks to replenish. There are over a dozen things simple regeneration doesn't cover, and I didn't even mention the downright ridiculous pain she would have to act under to get herself out of this, well beyond anything we've seen her handle. It is stupid to even believe she would survive though that kind of wounding. Hell, if she struggled to remove the spikes, chances are she would die before she could even remove them from just damaging herself further.
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Sasukes Chidori varies and OP never designated which one he was referencing but I understand why u would pull that variant. But Sakura survives the following..
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Your no longer arguing with me, your arguing directly against the manga, any vital damage no matter how gravely that could cause them to "go down" heals instantly without mental or a concious effort. So they wouldn't go down!
"If this technique (creation rebirth) is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored."
"When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition.(Instant regeneration)"
^^^^^straight out the manga!
That's subject to your opinion not the facts, who to say that removing Neji's two spikes is more painful then Tsunade removing two Susanoo blades that ruptured her spine and damged organs (panel below).,
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So that observation doesn't hold up.
Lol TSUNADE HAD TWO SUSANOO BLADES both perpendicularly (crossing each other) impale her once, each blade went straight though her Middle abdomen (in and out). What organs or body parts are subject to your abdomen?
Intestines
Kidneys
Liver
Spinal Cord
^^^each one of this body parts most likely could've been injured, yet Tsunade continued to take down a Susanoo with those blades still in tact! She then went onto remove them.,
Thanks for posting the picture though, it helped!
Yes, Byakugou can stop hemorrhaging. The moment you cut or tear a blood vessel proteins in the blood join forces to form a fibrin net that holds platelet or enzymes that leaked from the torn blood vessel over the tear and in just a few seconds or minutes. Byakugou stimulates proteins + enzymes and speeds up celluar Divison so Byakugou does in fact directly counters hemorrhaging.
I just proven that Byakugou counters hemorrhaging and if you notice you don't see blood coming the areas where she impaled (refer to previous scans).
Your grasping for straws, bone fragments in her body won't kill her or weaken her in battle.
Leave them straws alone'
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More straw grasping, losing stomach acid won't instantly kill anyone guy (wtf). The effects due to low stomach acid is malnourishment and mineral deficiency but both of these things happen over an extended period of time. And stomach acid isn't hard to replace lol, google it and you'll come to find out that their are home remedys that'll help you replace stomach acid in days.
I would like to add that the wound that's cussing the acid to leave its designated place closes instantly.
1. Their regeneration isn't simple regeneration.
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2. I've acknowledged the pain aspect but that doesn't default manga facts. Just becuase it would hurt like a ***** doesn't mean it can't heal when the manga says it can.
3. Stop underestimating Byakugou!
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Yes, and her skin would've grew around his hand, quickly engulfing his body, and she would've absorbed him into her byakugou. It's a slug style jutsu called byakugou: slug envelopment it's a sealing jutsu, but dont worry, she could release him at anytime, he will be in a genjutsu world inside of her head, with inner Sakura, reflecting on what he did. And she could use her powers to release everyone , like how katsuyu uses her powers
You're basically trying to compare Rinnegan Sasuke's Chidori with Kid Kakashi's Chidori and a version of the Chidori made to cut and stab also used by an inferior Sasuke and calling it a variation in power.
My mistake. I might've missed the manga panel that says that whoever holds the Byakugou is by all means immortal.
I'm still having trouble to see how that would help against something that causes immediate death and something that leaves no space for your organs to be regrown.
If you take everything from the manga is absolute and perfect and try to apply it to this kind of situation, then we have a Prime Hiruzen situation in out hands.
Its merely my opinion? I think its kinda obvious. You have a pair of semi-straight big ass objects piercing in a cross formation into your body and you have two branches extending in several directions with several protusions inside your body.
I don't see whats so hard about it.
Yep. Lets not take into account that in Neji's situation we have twice the damage, with organs such as heart, livers, lung, eso****us, diaphragm....oh, and I'll bring this up again, Tsunade has pain resistance feats that Sakura lacks. It makes it hard to act when you're in a world of pain and can't react well to it.
Fair enoug, I'll concede that much.
[/QUOTE]Your grasping for straws, bone fragments in her body won't kill her or weaken her in battle.
Leave them straws alone' [/QUOTE]
You're obviously underestimating how much sharp piece of bone poking deep into your left lung can do.
Hmm...I was thinking on acidic burns, but she'd recover from that too...I'll disagree on the part where its easy to recover once lost in large ammounts because of experience. Not firsthand, but still. It was a bad example though.
1. No. It reconstruct things. Yet, it was never said to take other kinds of damage itno account,
2. It does not on the first one, but on the second scenario we're discussing Sakura will die if she doesn't remove those spikes from her chest...and well, last time she was under pain, this was her immediate reaction.
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3. I'm not. The Byakugou is the greatest healing factor in the series....well, right underneath Juubi JIn and Kaguya, but still. Yet you're playing it off as some sort of immortality card in the battlefield when it obviously isn't. Perhaps it was back on part one when Tsunade said so, but that was before meteors were summoned from the skies and demons became pets.
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I'm not comparing anything, as I said before OP said just said Chidori and I correctly pointed out that there are various Chidori techniques. Agin the orginal topic just said Chidori so I politely referenced the variations a Byakugou user could survive.
Lol that's an exaggeration in my opinion, Byakugou users are just difficult to kill.
You need to understand that there are few things that can result in immediate death. Having your spinal cord snapped in half doesn't kill you immediately. Nor does having your heart removed, punctured or burn kills you instantly. A persons body can remain operational without things like you kidneys, liver, intestines and even with a absent heart. It's called a clinical death and Byakugou is instant so that small gap of time a body remains functional gives Byakugou the chance to heal what ever put you in that state.
Lol read the manga and apply the facts!
(1) Tsunade not only survived having her spinal cord abrupted, she continued to fight while it was abrupted thanks to Byakugou. (2) Tsunade survived her heart being directly impaled thanks to Byakugou. (3) Creation Rebirth can regenerate new cells instantly, replacing the damaged ones. (4) the Strength of a Hundred repairs damaged cells instantly not matter how lethal instantly.
Just sayin..
Now we're changing the connotation of Byakugou's regenative abilities can heal wounds that caused Neji's death to Sakura's Byakugou abilities have the regenerative abilities to heal the wounds that killed Neji but she wouldn't survive the healing process becuase it would be too painful.
Stop it, Sakura was lethally poisoned and impaled at the same time yet she never fell to her knees nor let go of Sasori's blade but to top it off........ She Channeled mystical palm through her own body while the sword was inside of her & the poison slowly making its way through her body and stopped the bleeding!
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She even began the ealier stages of healing her own wound.
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Sakura will have no problems surviving this.
Becuase at the end of the day, the lung will instantly heal and if it's such a deterrent (which it wouldn't be) both Tsunade & Sakura are surgeons. They can easily make a chakra scalpel, cut through their body and remove the "fragment" themselves. They'll regenerate after that though lol
Byakugou grants CELLULAR REGENERATION, that means anything subject to your body's celluar structure is at the whim of Byakugou!
Sakura wasn't just in physical pain, she was in emotional pain or what one would call shock, she wasn't on the ground screaming or rolling around in pain.
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But sense we're going there, I would like point out that Kabuto didn't heal her wound completely and that Kurama's chakra continued to force pain on her yet that same pain didn't stop her from healing Naruto's grave wounds or burns. Even though she was in pain she kept healing him!
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The pain Sakura was in didn't stop her from healing Naruto so this idea that she can't push through pain it a bit.....
I'm not over hyping Byakugou but you are undermining it, I never said Sakura or Tsunade were indestructible or could survive attacks of high levels such as the one Sasuke used to destroy the metor. You have to reference that extreme becuase I've proven that mist wounds that many characters died from or could die from cannot kill Sakura or Tsunade. It does seem however that you can't accept their abitiles (especially Sakura's).,
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Well, he did point out to the specific situation of Sasuke stabbing Sakura, and there he had a Rinnegan, so that's what I'm going by.
I know that. I even looked that up beforehand. But its not just a heart, here we have multiple organs being destroyed simultaneously by Sasuke's Raiton, all at once. You've seen that mateor and what the Chidori did to it. Its basically a much smaller version happening inside the human's body. I wouldn't even be surprised if it broke through all the victim's bones while at it.
Don't underestimate the Chidori. Not when its being manifested on Sasuke's hand.
What does that have anything to do with the swords being esier to remove than those wood spikes?
Stop. Stop right there. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that, but if Sakura even hopes to heal this, she has to remove the wood spikes from her chest. No ammount of regeneration will fix that while those are inside herThat is undebatable.
You think Sakura could go through all this and still have the energy to perform surgery on herself and fix something that fatal in her body.
That...really is not the kind of damage I'm speaking of. Byakugo isn't concious, it doesn't think, if you break your body and reform it again, don't you think something you didn't account for might be displaced:
Emotional pain causes you to fall down on the ground grunting then. Alright.
And the aftereffects of that, like every wound ever, are not nearly as bad as the wound itself, so its not that big of a feat.
[/QUOTE]I'm not over hyping Byakugou but you are undermining it, I never said Sakura or Tsunade were indestructible or could survive attacks of high levels such as the one Sasuke used to destroy the metor. You have to reference that extreme becuase I've proven that mist wounds that many characters died from or could die from cannot kill Sakura or Tsunade. It does seem however that you can't accept their abitiles (especially Sakura's).,[/QUOTE]
I'm not relying on that, I'm bringing up the facts. I'm not stupid, I know that Sakura would survive "simply" being stabbed in the heart. Sasuke did it with Kaubto's help, and as shown with Tsunade and Lee, healing someone else is far more dificult than healing yourself. The lightning on it is the big problem. I'll quote myself early in this thread for that.
So no, I am not diminishing her abilities and saying all of this because I "can't accept" what she can or can't do. Sakura is an awful character, and pissing off her fans is good fun, but I wouldn't waste my time in an actual discussion of this detail for the sake of "hating".
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Touché but that would be an overkill lol, he wouldn't just kill her but everyone around her lol
This what I'm saying, Byakugou has the abilities to not only repair any damage whether it be big, small, fatal, minscule or cellular it's gonna get healed! To take it further creation rebirth can recreate anything within your celluar structure and that's anything in or outside of your body, all proved by facts. Now yes this will take an insane amount of chakra and will exhaust their body's but it's doable.
Again there are Chidori varriants and a Byakugou user survives most of them piercing their body but I'll let you hold onto that extreme rendition.
lol another extreme but this isn't worth arguing about
And I'm going to have to ask you not to underestimate celluar regenration, not when it's been solidified by the manga, databook, feats and Madara himself.
Agreed?
Your insisting that the damage caused two branches extending in several directions with several protusions inside your body is inferior to two large sharp blade penetrating your abdomen (damaging the organs that reside there) and cutting through your spine. Most of all your over looking the "spinal rupture" aspect that I'm citing, you do no spinal injuries or neurological injuries are the most deadly, painful abs hardest to recover from?
All I did verbalize your counter, the minute I mentioned that "pain could be pushed through" when removing the spike or object which would allow the healing techniques to prevail you introduced the argument of "Sakura wouldn't be able to push through the pain" to back up your incorrect claim of her being incapable of removing them to allow the healing process to occur. It's a bad evasion!
Yes, what proof can you provide that she wouldn't be able too? But scratch that because your answer doesn't denounce or disqualify what her seal is capable of doing. We'll be here all day is we were basing our conversations on "what if".
What in your body or exterior to your body isn't composed of cells?
Lmao so what, every time Sakura is in pain or is ever in a situation of pain it'll inheritly be emotional? You honestly gotta sit down., Should I reference all the times she never fell to her knees due to emotional pain? Or could I post scans that doubt her pushing through physical pain solely? No matter what your answer is, it doesn't stop any regenration from happening when Byakugou's techniques are active and ready to heal a wound. It's like you said, Byakugou is a Jutsu that occurs unconsciously so Sakura's state of mind cannot stop Byakugou since emotion manifest from your comcious.
Touché again.,
Lol at least you admitted you like to troll.
Debating the wood spikes (which i believe you're actually wrong) is one thing but Chidori should in no way be debatable man.
Your ratings are off:
- You underrate Lightning/Chidori
- You overrate Byakugou
First, i believe it was portrayed Chidori was stronger than lightning with the phrase Kakashi cut through a lightning bolt with his chidori? Even if that isn't the case, it would still be enough to insta kill.
Humans normally are good conductors of electricity and it takes lightning only 3 milliseconds to course through the entire human body. Note that when lightning strikes a human irl, it happens in milliseconds while it looks like Sasuke has his hand in Sakura for at the very least a couple of seconds and the lightning will definitely continue to stream into her body. Also, lightning has the ability to travel through and burst blood vessels
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Basically, just because of the lightning property itself, there is a very high possibility byakugou users won't even be able to channel chakra as it would travel through the entire body short circuiting the tenketsu themselves.
Also i think you're wrong about the brain 10 minutes thing. The brain doesn't have the ability to store oxygen..its able to still be active for a few minutes (not up to 10) after death because of the oxygen that will be in the stagnated blood the heart had pumped when it was still functional. With lightning, the blood vessels will actually burst meaning no stagnated blood = no oxygen = no few minutes of brain activity = insta death of all bodily functions.
Second...you overrate byakugou so much you're misinterpreting it for immortality. You keep saying byakugou users are difficult to kill but how exactly can you kill someone who can recreate(not regenerate) an entire heart?
The human heart is about the size of a fist. If Sasuke does aim there, the whole heart will be obliterated in an instant. At that point if the heart returns it was recreated simply because the previous one was obliterated and pieces wouldn't even exist anymore.
Again, Tsunade doesn't have that ability because if she did, she wouldn't be getting old. It's not that difficult to understand tbh. If she can recreate new cells, why is she getting old? Every thing we've see her regenerate can actually heal over x period of time if it's well catered and byakugou just accelerates that period to be nigh instant.
The databook even emphasizes this. "Cell division (humans heal from injuries by cell division) is forcibly stimulated, acceleration of cell division.." these are phrases the databook itself uses.
Also notice it uses injury, gravely injured, wounds? How does an obliterated heart classify under any of these?
Edit: You also like to give Sakura Tsunade's feats. Can you prove to me that Tsunade's Senju/Uzumaki life force had no hand in Tsunade being able to tank those swords in her or the Yasaka Magatama (i don't remember this though lol) you mentioned?
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I'm not rating anything, I'm posting manga scans something that is lacking from your challenge to Byakugou and the previous ones I've countered. It seems that a majority of people on the base doesn't under stand what cellular regenration is or is incapable off comprehending what it means to stimulate protiens/ enzymes or forcibly divide cells instantly. Byakugou accelerates the bodies healing process and offers that same healing process superhuman abiltiy (regenration). Recreating aspects of your body that normally couldn't be recreated, abling speeding up human body natural healing process or healing things in a matter of seconds that would normally take extended periods of time. So when we're talking about Byakugou you need to not limit it to ordinary context becuase there's nothing ordinary about it.
As I said to another member, what you believe or see doesn't amount to anything creditable becuase these observations are not based on facts but rather observations so I'm not going to argue the indents of how strong you think the lightening is. I will however say (with facts) that being being truck by lightening does t instantly kill you, it causes neurological damage and Byakugou healing abilities have dominion over that.
First in going to start with this example.,
Tsunade survived a Ethereal Transmission Jutsu that moved her at the speed of light, Byakugou regenerated the damaged. Scans below.,
Here's an in-adamant object being transfered, notice the strong bolt of lighting lol
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Here's her being actually transfered!
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And based on at bold, does anything look familiar here?
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Possibility? You have no manga proof that says lightening would travel through chakra points, block chakra or enable the chakra flow. You can't debate on "possibilities" when this is a discussion of facts. Post scans!
Never said your body remains functional after 10 minutes of clinical death, NEVER! When your heart stops beating due to the body maintaing two essential bodily functions for up to 30-40s, those functions include Blood Circulation & Brain Functions. It's called a clinical death. Tsunade & Sakura's regeneration is instant and that is defined as happening or coming immediately so their technique solos that 30-40s window. But I wound like to add that BYAKUGOU IS INSTANT CELLULAR REGENERATION! Blood vessels are cells, organs are composed of cells and your body is composed of cells!
Byakugou can forcibly create new cells in an instant or recreate them in an instant!
Manga facts!
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Ninja Art Creation Rebirth — Strength of a Hundred Technique (忍法創造再生 百豪の術, Ninpō Sōzō Saisei — Byakugō no Jutsu)
1st Classification: Ninjutsu
2nd Classification: —
Main User(s): Tsunade, Sakura Haruno
Class: Supplementary
Range: —
Rank: S-Rank
Heading: —
For several years using the highest most precise Chakra control, a fixed amount is stored in the Byakugō seal. The Chakra is usually put to use to regenerate the body through the technique Sōzō Saisei, the combination results in the ultimate regeneration technique.
The seal was able to regenerate the body, despite Tsunade's Chakra quantity being less, than the enormous Chakra quantity of the First Hokage.
When Ninpō Sōzō Saisei is used at the same time as Byakugō no Jutsu, it becomes possible to use it (Sōzō Saisei) over a long period of time. When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition.(Instant regeneration)
↑→ Release the Chakra stored in ones forehead. Wounds completely recover, while at the same time ones own power rises, however cell division quickens, which shortens ones life span.
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Genesis* Rebirth (創造再生, Souzou Saisei)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary
User: Tsunade
The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu~~ a "forbidden regeneration technique"!
Created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, this is the ultimate regeneration technique!! By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human body!
If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means... for the sake of continuing to protect the lives of one's comrades. That's the resolution hidden in this technique.
[picture of Tsunade releasing her Yin Seal** and performing this technique]
↑By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.
This wound may have brought her on the verge of death, but she won't die~~
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's shoulder healing]
↑↓The acceleration of cell division that allows for the complete recovery from wounds is paid for with the shortening of one's life span.
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's chest healing]
*Souzou means "creation". Especially a deity's creation of the world and everything in it. It isn't specifically the Christian Genesis, though. It can be applied to any religion. For example, the creation of Japan by the gods Izanagi and Izanami in Shinto is also called "souzou". I simply chose to use the word "Genesis" because I like the sound of it.
**Yin Seal (陰封印, In Fuuin). The diamond-shaped seal on Tsunade's forehead.
(1) I don't think Tsunade or Sakura are actual immortal characters lol! They just won't die from simple mortal wounds that kill regular people in combat. I've never once called either imortal thoughout my history on Narutobase. (2) lol yes Byakugou users can recreate a heart, it's the truth or as I like to say (factual).
The pecies don't have to exist in order for Byakugou to recreate them!
Check out the databook material I posted above.
This is getting stupid now, your directly arguing with the manga now! When Byakugou's regenerative techniques are active (when the seal is active) Tsunade uses her chakra (from that seal) to directly combat the damage done to her body. You sound desprate to prove a point when you say things like "if she could regenerate her heart she wouldn't age" lol Byakugou is used to directly compact damage done to the body the instant it happens. Aging (your appearance) isn't an injury and there is no attack in the NV that attacks that make you age either lol this is silly. When u activate Byakugou it doesn't instantly reverse any normalcies to your body that are there due to its natural process like aging.
Lmao what about the other things it says?
"By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human"
"a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means."
Here's where that dislike comes into play, Tsunades life force has nothing to do with the healing abilities of Byakugou.
Nice try.
You're right...I didn't bring manga scans.. What i've been using is the databook translation which i believe you're misinterpreting a lot.
@bold what i said with the lightning isn't what i believe..it was portrayed in the manga by Gai. I believe it was Gai that said Kakashi cut through lightning with it so logically, Chidori should be > a bolt of lightning...either way, a bolt of lightning is enough.
@underlined ...how so? The translations clearly state organs and tissues but says nothing about fixing electrical impulses that the brain uses to communicate with the body which will definitely be affected by Chidori.
Yeahhh....no. That wasn't lightning.
- Lightning is extremely fast..but it's still slower than the speed of light.
- The name also disagrees that it's lightning. The word 'Ethereal' in no way means lightning. I believe it's light or sth.
And moving at the speed of light doesn't obliterate which is what Chidori would do to a heart.
Very well then.
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A dead body...moving with only chakra...gets electrocuted....freezes in place. Electricity can affect Chakra.
Your understanding of what you are reading is flawed. Instant..yes but the injury has to happen first doesn't it? It heals from the head downwards right? How exactly would it do this instant healing after it's whole connection has been severed?
Lightning courses through a human body in an instant as well. Once it enters, it bursts blood vessels (no stagnated blood = no oxygen = Brain insta death), interrupts chakra like i've shown you above, tampers with the brain's electrical impulses that it uses to control the body... i really could list more if you want.
1. I'm not saying you said so...i'm saying that's what it looks like you're misinterpreting byakugou as. If someone could create a new heart, that person is technically immortal. I'm also interested in what kind of things you think can kill them then.
2. You can't use the word recreate. Databook says reconstruct. Your claim isn't factual in any way.
I did...and the databook says reconstruct. To reconstruct something, you need its pieces...it's simple really.
Again your understanding is flawed sorry to say. Tsunade obviously uses Chakra to make herself look young. Why not use the byakugou that has the ability to create new cells that you claim to create new cells all over her body to stop the aging and not waste the chakra? Or if that would be stressful, at least create new telomeres to stop aging? It's simple..when a cell divides, a bit of the telomere is obliterated completely...like disappears entirely. So byakugou has no way of reconstructing it.
Aging can be looked at as a form of cell injury caused by cell division because the telomere reduces every time a cell divides imo.
You can read up telomere also because that's how it works. The databook continually mentions cell division. What happens when the cell can divide no longer?
It might be a manga..but kishi did stick with real life mechanics and physics. From Gaara's battle with the Mizukage to Darui's battle with Suigetsu in Kage summit, to healing Neji with his own DNA from part 1 and Tsunade aging because she can't create but reconstruct her cells.
Again, what i see it saying is reconstruction of organs and forcibly stimulating cell division. You can't reconstruct something without it's pieces at least and Chidori on a fist which is at least the same size of a heart gets obliterated on impact.
It also says gravely injured...destroying a heart can't be classified as a injury the same way a severed head and an amputated limb aren't injuries.
Very well then..lack of evidence can't be used as evidence..I concede on this.
Eh...it really depends whether he can or cannot limit the effect of the jutsu....think he can, but given Sasuke's persona at the time, it wouldn't have mattered for him.
I know they'd heal, but if someone takes all the organs from your body instantly for five seconds before returning them all in perfect state instantly, you're still dead. Instant death is instant death. Byakugou would be healing wounds from a dead body.
Most. but not every single one of them rips your body to shreds from inside out. For the record, Chidori Spear, if kept activated with its spikes for a longer amounts of time, would also do the job.
No, because...well, I honestly don't think I'm underestimating it. That's what this whole discussion is about. Every jutsu has a weakness, the byakugou is no exception. and I wanna prove that.
Are those really spinal injuries? Because...she's moving a bit too well for someone with that kind of spinal damage. It seems dumb, but this just crossed my mind.....
Oh, also, if that's spinal damage, the branches definitely are. Just look where the upper one made contact.
Well, "pain can be pushed through" by itself is a pretty weak argument. Naturally, she was trying to heal herself, but the poison was messing with her chakra flow. Had she been truly in control of her pain though, she could have broken the blade easily, seeng as she was good enough with her chakra control to heal through the initial damage.
Fair enough.
I was actually being sarcastic. THe fact that she fell down and grunted in pain makes it seem more phyisical than emotional.
Troll? No. I bait as much as the next guy, its the only way you can start a good discussion these days. Case and point
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However trolling is only a measure of fighting fire with fire, seeing as going down the rational path with some people on this forum is as pointless as playing chess with a pigeon. Knocking down your pieces again and again no matter how well you play....Call me arrogant, but I still find myself above "trolling" unless the situation calls for it.....worryingly often these days.
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