If sasuke was Kurama's Jin he would be a better Jin than Naruto

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You don't seem to understand that having hatred is not enough to allow Kurama to take over. You have to be emotionally unstable, like every time Naruto lost control. Sasuke has never gotten to points like those. That's all there is to it. The fact is that even in that last image Sasuke had complete control over his actions and was not desperate for another source of power to help him achieve his goals.

Sasuke as a kid should not even be put in this conversation since we're talking about control with the Sharingan and I doubt he could put Kurama under genjutsu at that time.



Such as?

You can go through the manga if you want. Those 3 panels had me going through this shitty series again. I won't do it a second time. And seeing how you're still in denial, word of mouth wouldn't be sufficient to you anyways.

So you can play this one of two ways.

Disagree or Agree.
 
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Sasuke could easily supress and release Kuramas chakra at will. You just saw with his sharingan he was able to supress Kurama but somehow you think Kurama will easily take over Sasuke. You must be joking. Sasuke can easily release the gold avatar because all he would have to do is confine Kurama into another seal with his ocular power.


Naruto needed to get rid of his hatred because Naruto doesn't possess the eyes of Uchiha.

Suppress as in disperse the small portion of Kurama's chakra leaking from Naruto's seal? If you think that was anywhere near "suppressing" Kurama then you have a good sense of humor.
 
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You can go through the manga if you want. Those 3 panels had me going through this shitty series again. I won't do it a second time. And seeing how you're still in denial, word of mouth wouldn't be sufficient to you anyways.

So you can play this one of two ways.

Disagree or Agree.

He refuses to take that L.

Clearly there have been moments in the Manga like that. He would have given into Kurama when he went to attack Itachi in part 1, he would have have also gave in to Kurama like he gave into the cursed seal in the Chunin Exams.

His whole premise is, "there has never been a moment that he went out of control". Yes, we have seen Kurama capitalize off the moments Naruto overused his chakra and gave into anger, but it clearly states in the Databook and Manga that Kurama feeds of hatred, any type, and not just at certain moments.

The reason he didn't capitalize at any other moments was because Naruto didn't live everyday shrouded in hate, unlike Sasuke.
 

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You can go through the manga if you want. Those 3 panels had me going through this shitty series again. I won't do it a second time. And seeing how you're still in denial, word of mouth wouldn't be sufficient to you anyways.

So you can play this one of two ways.

Disagree or Agree.

It's already been explained to you that Sasuke has never gotten to points Naruto has, so I'll have to disagree.

He refuses to take that L.

Clearly there have been moments in the Manga like that. He would have given into Kurama when he went to attack Itachi in part 1, he would have have also gave in to Kurama like he gave into the cursed seal in the Chunin Exams.

His whole premise is, "there has never been a moment that he went out of control". Yes, we have seen Kurama capitalize off the moments Naruto overused his chakra and gave into anger, but it clearly states in the Databook and Manga that Kurama feeds of hatred, any type, and not just at certain moments.

The reason he didn't capitalize at any other moments was because Naruto didn't live everyday shrouded in hate, unlike Sasuke.

Sorry to make you realize, but those are all moments that happened before Sasuke would be able to control Kurama with the Sharingan.
 

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I tire of people trying to take others powers.

You dont see anyone trying to say Naruto would be better with Sharingan so why go through this lol. Its just so stupid.

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Sauce fans trying to prove how superior Sasuke is to Naruto with feats he could never control.

OT: there is one reason and one reason alone Sasuke would never be better at controlling Kurama than Naruto. He is not as mentally stable as Naruto. Kurama f'ed off hatred before being Naruto's bijuu. With all that's happened to Sasuke he could never control Kirama to the extent Naruto did because Kurama would feed off of and cultivate Sasuke's hatred to the point he would rage out, bust out with the 9 tail cloak and Kurama would consume him from there.

It isn't just physical fortitude that's needed to control Kurama but mental and a superior will to not let it consume you. There were a few times Naruto almost succumbed. Without daddy or mommy Uchiha to stop Sasuke from doing the same, Kurama would have consumed him during the forest of death part of the chunin exams. Or even during the Uchiha Massacre.

EDIT: I just read some of the other comments after posting this...what manga were you guys reading? Seriously? Sasuke has always remained in control? Lol really?

Danzo fight?
Itachi killing his clan?
Forest of death when he faced Orochimaru?
Hospital Rooftop fighting Naruto?
Facing Kakashi and laughing madly then resorting to anger when he saw Kakashi had MS?
VOTE 1 and 2?

Just to name a few.

Please tell me how emotionally stable Sauce was again please :coffee:
 
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Danzo fight?
Facing Kakashi and laughing madly then resorting to anger when he saw Kakashi had MS?
VOTE 1 and 2?

Just to name a few.

Please tell me how emotionally stable Sauce was again please :coffee:

We're not talking about before Sasuke could control Kurama, so anything not from Shippuuden has no relevance. As for the only three examples you have, Sasuke was calm in the first and third, unless you can provide proof of him having outbreaks during those moments. Fighting Kakashi is the only moment in which he would appear out of control, but even then he does not call out for help seeking answers which would be needed in order for Kurama to break free of genjutsu and a seal.
 

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We're not talking about before Sasuke could control Kurama, so anything not from Shippuuden has no relevance. As for the only three examples you have, Sasuke was calm in the first and third, unless you can provide proof of him having outbreaks during those moments. Fighting Kakashi is the only moment in which he would appear out of control, but even then he does not call out for help seeking answers which would be needed in order for Kurama to break free of genjutsu and a seal.

Too lazy to provide scans. And Jin are created when they are infants or young kids like all of them so even pre Shippuden counts no pick and choose here
 

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Too lazy to provide scans. And Jin are created when they are infants or young kids like all of them so even pre Shippuden counts no pick and choose here

Just because most have, does not mean one has to be an infant, such in the case of Mito and Minato. The premise of this thread is using Sasuke with the power to control Kurama with his Sharingan, so no going around that.
 

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We're not talking about before Sasuke could control Kurama, so anything not from Shippuuden has no relevance. As for the only three examples you have, Sasuke was calm in the first and third, unless you can provide proof of him having outbreaks during those moments. Fighting Kakashi is the only moment in which he would appear out of control, but even then he does not call out for help seeking answers which would be needed in order for Kurama to break free of genjutsu and a seal.

So a character has display insanity to be insane (unstable)? Incredible logic
 

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So a character has display insanity to be insane (unstable)? Incredible logic

If someone is calm then they must not be insane (directed towards manga). Even in the real life, a killer could be mentally more fit than the average individual, they simply may have a different perspective of life.
 

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If someone is calm then they must not be insane (directed towards manga). Even in the real life, a killer could be mentally more fit than the average individual, they simply may have a different perspective of life.

This is piss poor logic. Just because something isn't displayed doesn't mean that "it's" not there. The manga already confirmed later in the series that Sasuke was emotionally unstable. Whether we saw it prior or not
 

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This is piss poor logic. Just because something isn't displayed doesn't mean that "it's" not there. The manga already confirmed later in the series that Sasuke was emotionally unstable. Whether we saw it prior or not

I don't recall the manga stating he was emotional unstable. He only ever reached such a point against Kakashi. If it's not displayed then how do you figure he's insane? You can't.
 

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I don't recall the manga stating he was emotional unstable. He only ever reached such a point against Kakashi. If it's not displayed then how do you figure he's insane? You can't.

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You're like trying to justify this to your logic. Kurama was the embodiment of hatred and when Sasuke was young he was seeking power to defeat Itachi. Common sense will tell you that since Kurama's sinister ways and Sasuke endeavor for power go hand and hand, he would not have been able to tame Kurama, idk how this is even up for debate
 

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You're like trying to justify this to your logic. Kurama was the embodiment of hatred and when Sasuke was young he was seeking power to defeat Itachi. Common sense will tell you that since Kurama's sinister ways and Sasuke endeavor for power go hand and hand, he would not have been able to tame Kurama, idk how this is even up for debate

The Sharingan won't lose the ability to tame Kurama simply because Sasuke wants power.
 

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Lol calling sasuke insane in a world built around kill first ask questions later.
 
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The Sharingan won't lose the ability to tame Kurama simply because Sasuke wants power.

Sasuke has never displayed such a feat. Not only that show me proof that Sasuke had the body to handle Kurama
 
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Just because most have, does not mean one has to be an infant, such in the case of Mito and Minato. The premise of this thread is using Sasuke with the power to control Kurama with his Sharingan, so no going around that.

So that's another L.

If you believe being able to simply control the actions of the kyubbi is better than a mutual friendship you haven't read the manga.

What did Madara and Obito accomplish? Defeat, even with control over the kyubbi.

Obviously Naruto is a better Jin than Sasuke because of the tribulations he faced getting Kurama's respect. Sasuke would never be able to become a Perfect Jinchuriki since he simply had control over him with his sharingan, nor release the full potential of Kurama.
 

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Sasuke has never displayed such a feat. Not only that show me proof that Sasuke had the body to handle Kurama

If you believe that Sasuke can't control and host Kurama then you have no reason to be in this hypothetical thread. It'd be rather funny though if an Indra reincarnation was unable to host Kurama while Minato could.

So that's another L.

If you believe being able to simply control the actions of the kyubbi is better than a mutual friendship you haven't read the manga.

What did Madara and Obito accomplish? Defeat, even with control over the kyubbi.

Obviously Naruto is a better Jin than Sasuke because of the tribulations he faced getting Kurama's respect. Sasuke would never be able to become a Perfect Jinchuriki since he simply had control over him with his sharingan, nor release the full potential of Kurama.

Sorry, but you wasted your time in responding to me. My first post in this thread specifically states that I didn't think Sasuke would be able to be a better host than Naruto.
 

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If you believe that Sasuke can't control and host Kurama then you have no reason to be in this hypothetical thread. It'd be rather funny though if an Indra reincarnation was unable to host Kurama while Minato could.

Man common sense on the decline. Are you srsly suggesting that Kid Sasuke would have comparable or greater reserves than Minato? Kid Sasuke doesn't have the feats in order to make Kurma be his jin nor does teen Sasuke


The bold makes literally no sense seeing that the very thread we are both in formulated the question that lead me to my conclusion
 
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