If sasuke was Kurama's Jin he would be a better Jin than Naruto

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He controlled a larger amount and completely reshaped it's nature in vote 2

Naruto has the best affinity with Kurama. Its manga fact. What the hell is there to discuss here? I dont get it.
 

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Yes, but Naruto couldn't defeat him alone. Kushina's chakra chains held Kurama down while Naruto finished the fight, so.......

That was a 15 year old Naruto eventually he would've been strong enough to face him, and Sasuke didn't exactly have the power to tame Kurama either.

Furthermore, defeating Kurama alone won't grant access his full power, the person must be free of hatred which Uchiha aren't capable of when they have the Mangekyo.

And high level sealing jutsu is required otherwise Kurama will remain free to take over the person's body, the sealing jutsu Naruto used to prevent his body being taken over was on the Sage's level, Sasuke can't replicate the same feat.
 

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Don't know why people would think Sasuke, a reincarnation of Indra, would not be able to host Kurama when Minato, a nobody, was able to. Though he'd get to KCM, Sasuke probably wouldn't be able to transform into the Tailed Beast or create an avatar from it like Naruto.
 

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Don't know why people would think Sasuke, a reincarnation of Indra, would not be able to host Kurama when Minato, a nobody, was able to. Though he'd get to KCM, Sasuke probably wouldn't be able to transform into the Tailed Beast or create an avatar from it like Naruto.

Sasuke cant get to chakra mode. You have to rid the Kyuubi of its hate and seperate its chakra from that to unlock its pure form.

Sasuke is filled with hate he will never find its true power, nor does he have a safe place to fight Kuruma with an unlocked seal.
 

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Lol obviously.
 

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Nope he wouldn't be he Jin. He's uchiha and has no senju/naruto cells :|. His power is in his eyes

Jin wise Senju/Uzumaki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uchiha any day.
Genjutsu wise yeah uchiha can control bijuu better than Senju, possible Hashirama is their only competition.


jin >>>>>>>>> than genjutsu bijuu any day
 

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Kurama specifically mentions Naruto's bloodline being the reason he can control bijuu chakra so well. Sasuke isn't Uzumaki, he will never be able to use bijuus on the same level.

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Don't know why people would think Sasuke, a reincarnation of Indra, would not be able to host Kurama when Minato, a nobody, was able to. Though he'd get to KCM, Sasuke probably wouldn't be able to transform into the Tailed Beast or create an avatar from it like Naruto.

1. Minato was an Edo when he used it therefore had no physical restrictions. When he was alive his body was unable to handle the volume of chakra he absorbed.

2. Minato had a body strong enough to absorb and control NE, Sasuke doesn't.


Furthermore, Sasuke will never be able to get passed KCM since Kurama hates Uchiha. And even his KCM will be weak in comparison because he doesn't have the chakra reserves to maintain it for long.
 

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His power is being a jinchuriki. Its been years since manga ended and this same stupidity is alive and well.

But Kurama is not his power. There is a difference between the power you possess through your skills and family inheritance like Sasuke then you have a separate power source that you were given, which again is like Sasuke (Due to Itachi and Hagoromo), including Naruto.

Kurama is a separate entity that supplies Naruto with near unlimited chakra, can talk and give Naruto advice on how to win fights, and help him fight his enemies. Kurama is his own person. Naruto was not born with the Bijuu inside of him, therefore, it is not his power. That is what I'm saying alright. And this proves it:


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naruto is able to endure and heal from kurama's poison-like chakra because of life-force which he inherited from kushina and being uzumaki
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sasuke's chakra is way more yin like which is why c said it resemble genjutsu
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sasuke and naruto's chakra is the opposite
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saying that sasuke can be kurama's jin is like saying naruto can use genjutsu on kurama
naruto has the life-force and body for kurama sasuke has the yin chakra to use genjutsu on kurama
 

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That was a 15 year old Naruto eventually he would've been strong enough to face him, and Sasuke didn't exactly have the power to tame Kurama either.

Furthermore, defeating Kurama alone won't grant access his full power, the person must be free of hatred which Uchiha aren't capable of when they have the Mangekyo.

And high level sealing jutsu is required otherwise Kurama will remain free to take over the person's body, the sealing jutsu Naruto used to prevent his body being taken over was on the Sage's level, Sasuke can't replicate the same feat.

Despite the fact that Sasuke shut Kurama down in a hot minute, when he fought Naruto, Sai, Yamato, and Sakura? :what:

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But Kurama is not his power. There is a difference between the power you possess through your skills and family inheritance like Sasuke then you have a separate power source that you were given, which again is like Sasuke (Due to Itachi and Hagoromo), including Naruto.

Kurama is a separate entity that supplies Naruto with near unlimited chakra, can talk and give Naruto advice on how to win fights, and help him fight his enemies. Kurama is his own person. Naruto was not born with the Bijuu inside of him, therefore, it is not his power. That is what I'm saying alright. And this proves it:


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Bijuu chakra is fused with the chakra of the host, so whenever Naruto is using the bijuu's power he's using his own as well.
 

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Bijuu chakra is fused with the chakra of the host, so whenever Naruto is using the bijuu's power he's using his own as well.

It's mostly Kurama's tho. You gotta admit that, because didn't it say somewhere that a lot of Naruto's actual chakra is suppressed due to being a Jin, does it?

Plus, look at the scans.


NARUTO: "I NEED THE NINE TAILS CHAKRA"

KURAMA: "PREPARING MY CHAKRA!"
 

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Despite the fact that Sasuke shut Kurama down in a hot minute, when he fought Naruto, Sai, Yamato, and Sakura? :what:

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He suppressed Kurama when Kurama was in a freaking cage in the body of someone else, it's not the same as facing a freed Kurama tyring to take over your body.

Sasuke doesn't have the will power to stop Kurama from taking over his mind like Shukaku did with Gaara, and he certainly doesn't have the power to defend against this.


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But Kurama is not his power. There is a difference between the power you possess through your skills and family inheritance like Sasuke then you have a separate power source that you were given, which again is like Sasuke (Due to Itachi and Hagoromo), including Naruto.

Kurama is a separate entity that supplies Naruto with near unlimited chakra, can talk and give Naruto advice on how to win fights, and help him fight his enemies. Kurama is his own person. Naruto was not born with the Bijuu inside of him, therefore, it is not his power. That is what I'm saying alright. And this proves it:


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I really dont care about your dedinition of power. In this manga JINCHURIKI is a power.
 

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Well, yeah of course. Sasuke would be better at controlling Kurama. Naruto is still a great jinchurikki due to his Uzumaki genes and TNJ. I believe the only reason why he did so well was because the beasts cooperated with him as the battle went on (Thanks to friendship and calling them by their actual names). Before then, Kurama controlled him most of the time hehe.

Besides, Naruto couldn't even beat Kurama by himself. Kushina used the last of her chakra (Chakra chains) to hold Kurama down just so he could win the fight.

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On the other hand, it only took Sasuke like a second just to shut Kurama down.


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How can you compare sasuke shutting down an extremely tiny amount of a sealed kurama's chakra to Naruto fighting a fully released half kurama.
 

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I really dont care about your dedinition of power. In this manga JINCHURIKI is a power.

Being a Jin means that you're a weapon for the village to use as well. It's still a separate entity and energy source. You can't deny it.
 

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I don't think Sasuke's physical body was compatible for Kurama's until he grew up.
 
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