If Sasuke had some more hatred,Madara would have been dead

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Sasuke has been shown recently that he isn't a slave to his hatred anymore. He can control, focus, and direct his hatred at whoever he needs. Now that he has Indra's powers he doesn't need hatred anymore.

Similar to how Naruto doesn't get taken over by his rage anymore. We aren't seeing 6-tailed stage 2 kyuubi mode Naruto. Instead Naruto is exercising full control over the powers he once was only able to acquire through anger and hatred.
 

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Yeah but he stopped like I said. Backing down means he's gone soft.


Madara is stronger than all of them.



Backing down means he gone soft. If Sasuke cut his head off that would have given us a better signal.


THats a lame excuse. Obito was defenseless, cutting him down would have been way easier. The battle was also calming down, now that OBito was defeated. A spare 3 seconds wouldn't have been much of a problem.


It's not about him using tatics. It's about him gaining more eye power. The manga has showed a chain of gaining powers through hatred. It's true Sasuke was never evil, that was a bad choice of words. I know Sasuke is pure but hatred seems to drive his powers up fast, but I could be mistaken for battle genius.
Its the right answer not a poor excuse. Did you see what Madara did in a few seconds, he even told zetsu that he was only going to need a few moments to get the bijuu. Madara accomplished a lot in a matter of moments. Not to mention Minato wasn't just going to let sasuke kill him and the more time wasted the more time the greater threat would have to become complete. (as proven in the recent chapter )



Hatred never improved his power. Not when he was with oro because the cm was given to him, and not his sharingan going from 1 tomoe to 3 tome because that's just the normal evolution of the sharingan through combat and skill. His ms was obtained through pain which came to him from hearing the truth of itachi. The development of the ms techs as seen gradually increase throughout the battles he had which proves they increase by combat and skill.
 

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Yeah but he stopped like I said. Backing down means he's gone soft.


Madara is stronger than all of them.


Backing down means he gone soft. If Sasuke cut his head off that would have given us a better signal.


THats a lame excuse. Obito was defenseless, cutting him down would have been way easier. The battle was also calming down, now that OBito was defeated. A spare 3 seconds wouldn't have been much of a problem.


It's not about him using tatics. It's about him gaining more eye power. The manga has showed a chain of gaining powers through hatred. It's true Sasuke was never evil, that was a bad choice of words. I know Sasuke is pure but hatred seems to drive his powers up fast, but I could be mistaken for battle genius.

Dude for a Sasuke fan you clearly don't know Sasuke at all. When has Sasuke ever killed anyone of import (That Cloud fodder watching Bee is just that a fodder)? Sasuke has never killed a single one of his opponents. They either kill themselves or someone else finishes the job.
 

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Madara did not know Sasuke sharinnegan jutsu,this give Sasuke an advantage to inflict damage on him.Sasuke could have simply shot amaterasu Susano arrow and teleport Madara into it or something along that line
Amaterasu does not work on madara. Sasuke already tried that when Madara was BLIND AND JUUBI LESS
 
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Wow, lmfao. Afraid not. This is something that can't be accomplished on his own. Hence the moral of the story resurfacing.

It's quite shocking how some can't manage to put that together especially with all the writing on the wall.
 

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Its the right answer not a poor excuse. Did you see what Madara did in a few seconds, he even told zetsu that he was only going to need a few moments to get the bijuu. Madara accomplished a lot in a matter of moments. Not to mention Minato wasn't just going to let sasuke kill him and the more time wasted the more time the greater threat would have to become complete. (as proven in the recent chapter )



Hatred never improved his power. Not when he was with oro because the cm was given to him, and not his sharingan going from 1 tomoe to 3 tome because that's just the normal evolution of the sharingan through combat and skill. His ms was obtained through pain which came to him from hearing the truth of itachi. The development of the ms techs as seen gradually increase throughout the battles he had which proves they increase by combat and skill.

You're right but only in the text that we know what would happen if Obito actually died. Realistically it's the obvious choice to kill of Obito as an enemy. Sasuke wants to kill the Juubi for the same reason. It's power will be used for the enemy at one point. Kishi is not all the direct with his character. Although it could be more complex as I thought, Sasuke focusing all his power on making a better village. Although even with this I don't see how not killing is part of Sasukes agenda. Sasuke should have continued to kill him but we'll see how things play out.

As for hatred improving his power or not. Sasukes chakra becoming darker,dwelve into hatred allowed him to unlock Susanoo. Although Itachi was someone who didn't dwelve in hatred but unlocked it as well. So I agree with you on this.
 

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Guys, guys, Sasuke doesn't need hatred anymore.

He has become greater than Madara and unlocked PS without the need for hate.

Sasuke is still his person, he'll still solo no matter what, Macho.

Just like he solo'd Madara and made him run away.
 

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Except the Raikage had SAsuke on the ropes. He lost his hand to his own anger.Sasuke didn''t cut it off or burn it off. He cloaked his susanoo in Amateratsu and Aye kept chopping until his hand was burned then HE cut it off to keep amateratsu from spreading to the rest of his body.

Sasuke needed an assist from Suigetsu and Juugo because Aye was overpowering him. Sasuke got another assist from white Zezsu when Mei poisoned him with her kekkei genkai.

And Finally,Obito Kamui'd him away from Oonoki's Jinton. Sasuke would have died or have been defeated by each one of them if not for Obito and Taka. As strong as Sasuke was there, he was not strong enough to take on any of the Kage 1 Vs ! or together.
He didn't have sasuke on the ropes. The amaterasu kagutsuchi around the susano ribcage was a counter to the raikage's blinding speed in which as Gaara said both would have taken more damage and sasuke had the flames being manipulated as spikes to cut while the raikage was using his leg drop he would have been sliced up and sasuke wouldn't have gotten hurt. The raikage always fight using aggression because he is prideful that way as shown many times, and he even said to sasuke that just because you have that doens't mean I won't attack.( not exactly like that but close enough) so its proof that he fights like that all the time and thats just his normal personality. So don't use it as an excuse because regardless if he didn't attack right then he would have still attacked another time and the same outcome would have happened with him losing a limb.

Juugo did assist sasuke but sasuke at the time was just using 3 tomoe and the raikage hadn't even engaged sasuke 1 vs 1 at the time, prior to that the raikage and darui and cee all tried to attack sasuke at once and then juugo and suigetsu helped so you are wrong. The raikage never overpowered sasuke in that fight, once the raikage was done with juugo he engaged with sasuke and they both countered each other back to back and sasuke was partially blind and having his cell sin excruciating pain and having little skill with his ms techs yet the raikage at best we can only he drawed with sasuke which speaks volumes.


Mei snuck sasuke to confined him in that little space where he jutsu would be effective and sasuke was blind and every cell in his ody was hurting and exhausted from the previous battle with unruly A and at a loss of chakra so by praising Mei in any way for her minor clash with sasuke is pathetic to say the least not to mention chojuro is the one who snuck up on sasuke and knocked him into the hallway and then mei close it up.


Again, these powerful kage have to sneak up on an already weakened, bling, exhausted, out of chakra, with every cell in his body hurting sasuke. Onoki snuck up on sasuke, mei and chojuro snuck up on sasuke, complimenting sneak attacks is pathetic, even in real life sneaking doesn't get you the W.


He took on A 1 v1 and would have killed A, he already made him a cripple. Mei has no way to avoid amatersu so how the hell can she even dream to beat sasuke nor can she avoid genjutsu. Onoki cannot avoid genjutsu and his flight speed isn't faster than amaterasu of susano arrows. Tsunade would doom herself just like A did by attacking a amaterasu clad susano, and Danzo was beaten and he was a kage and the most powerful out of all of them at the summit. Countered
 

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Pretty sure that wouldnt work either. That technique is beneath him. He said it himself and he was blind with no juubi and only sage mode. you highly underestimate Madara.
Fail.

madara was hit by it, . he never said at that moment that amaterasu was beneath him, you have your chapters mixed up. Anyway, he took off the armor to get rid of it, or coming back to life saved him from it because in my first scan it shows madara as an edo with the rinne eyes being hit with amaterasu and then the rinne rebirth brings madara mack to life and he removed the armor so both could be right either way you are wrong, because if it was beneath him there would be no need to try to avoid it by removing the armor or thinking its beneath him only because he's is in the middle of a revival jutsu that negates that anyway.
 

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He didn't have sasuke on the ropes. The amaterasu kagutsuchi around the susano ribcage was a counter to the raikage's blinding speed in which as Gaara said both would have taken more damage and sasuke had the flames being manipulated as spikes to cut while the raikage was using his leg drop he would have been sliced up and sasuke wouldn't have gotten hurt. The raikage always fight using aggression because he is prideful that way as shown many times, and he even said to sasuke that just because you have that doens't mean I won't attack.( not exactly like that but close enough) so its proof that he fights like that all the time and thats just his normal personality. So don't use it as an excuse because regardless if he didn't attack right then he would have still attacked another time and the same outcome would have happened with him losing a limb.

Juugo did assist sasuke but sasuke at the time was just using 3 tomoe and the raikage hadn't even engaged sasuke 1 vs 1 at the time, prior to that the raikage and darui and cee all tried to attack sasuke at once and then juugo and suigetsu helped so you are wrong. The raikage never overpowered sasuke in that fight, once the raikage was done with juugo he engaged with sasuke and they both countered each other back to back and sasuke was partially blind and having his cell sin excruciating pain and having little skill with his ms techs yet the raikage at best we can only he drawed with sasuke which speaks volumes.


Mei snuck sasuke to confined him in that little space where he jutsu would be effective and sasuke was blind and every cell in his ody was hurting and exhausted from the previous battle with unruly A and at a loss of chakra so by praising Mei in any way for her minor clash with sasuke is pathetic to say the least not to mention chojuro is the one who snuck up on sasuke and knocked him into the hallway and then mei close it up.


Again, these powerful kage have to sneak up on an already weakened, bling, exhausted, out of chakra, with every cell in his body hurting sasuke. Onoki snuck up on sasuke, mei and chojuro snuck up on sasuke, complimenting sneak attacks is pathetic, even in real life sneaking doesn't get you the W.


He took on A 1 v1 and would have killed A, he already made him a cripple. Mei has no way to avoid amatersu so how the hell can she even dream to beat sasuke nor can she avoid genjutsu. Onoki cannot avoid genjutsu and his flight speed isn't faster than amaterasu of susano arrows. Tsunade would doom herself just like A did by attacking a amaterasu clad susano, and Danzo was beaten and he was a kage and the most powerful out of all of them at the summit. Countered

Excuses bro, all I am hearing is Sasuke could have or if he had used.... The fact is he didnt. He had no idea what their abilities were and rushed in head 1st which, ultimately would have gotten him killed if not for the others. Aye lost his hand and yet wass still fighting. Loosing his hand is not loosing the fight. With gaara there coupled by Both Raikage and Kazekage Subordinates Sasuke wasn't winning anything. He was in over his head.

Danzo was the only Legit defeat Sasuke had amongst the Kage. (I don't count Karin's assist because all she did was assist Danzo's foot in kicking her across the field) But there was no help and Obito just observed.

Sasuke did that one fair and square and killed Danzo like 5 times which I found HILARIOUS!!!!
 
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i agree but give naruto atleast 2percent hatred now he wuld destroy the verse he's just fighting for peace what a drag....and this is not fanboyism speaking i luv sasuke too
 

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Excuses bro, all I am hearing is Sasuke could have or if he had used.... The fact is he didnt. He had no idea what their abilities were and rushed in head 1st which, ultimately would have gotten him killed if not for the others. Aye lost his hand and yet wass still fighting. Loosing his hand is not loosing the fight. With gaara there coupled by Both Raikage and Kazekage Subordinates Sasuke wasn't winning anything. He was in over his head.

Danzo was the only Legit defeat Sasuke had amongst the Kage. (I don't count Karin's assist because all she did was assist Danzo's foot in kicking her across the field) But there was no help and Obito just observed.

Sasuke did that one fair and square and killed Danzo like 5 times which I found HILARIOUS!!!!
Excuses? hahahaha

Facts, mei & chojuro snuck sasuke....onoki snuck sasuke both are facts

Fact, A got burnt by amaterasu and to stop further spreading and burning he cut off his arms... another fact


Fact, sasuke was partially blind

Fact sasuke wasn't trying to fight mei, chojuro, he was running after danzo when mei blocked the exit with her kg and then chojuro hit him.


Fact, every cell in his body was hurting from previously using susano as he stated himself.


Fact he was at a loss of chakra from fighting A and his henchmen and the samurai


All facts not excuses, please do learn the difference.

I never said sasuke could have won vs all them together so by saying with gaara there he would have lost only shows your back peddling as to A's pending loss. Also sasuke counter all of their techs at once with his complete susano first use so no matter gaara being there or not they still couldn't win.


Danzo was the strongest of the Kage by far and he lost.
 
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