[Discussion] If Sasuke Goes Back to the Hidden Leaf Village. (Resolving Issues)

[Uchiha Samater]

with Kishimoto being a self confessed DBZ fan, i eventually see Sasuke proclaiming he is second to Naruto one day, [a'la Vegeta/Goku]

But apologizing to everyone would negate his character, he wasn't like that before he went apesh-T

I believe he will redeem himself somehow, but in a way he can be kind, in his own arrogant way

 

[ANiMUS]

with Kishimoto being a self confessed DBZ fan, i eventually see Sasuke proclaiming he is second to Naruto one day, [a'la Vegeta/Goku]

But apologizing to everyone would negate his character, he wasn't like that before he went apesh-T

I believe he will redeem himself somehow, but in a way he can be kind, in his own arrogant way

Sasuke WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE, but if its just his old teammates i think it could happen

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Also I'll state one more thing. The reason for all this is because shinobi don't understand each other. Naruto understands why Sasuke did all that he did. That's why he has stopped questioning what he has done, instead he tells Sasuke to save his hatred and to fight him with all of it. Some of you say that the village would not accept him for his crimes, also they don't even know the whole story, but I believe they will have a change of heart when they hear Sasuke's side of the story.

Naruto wants a world where everyone can express themselves honestly and understand eachother. That's how all this started between Naruto and Sasuke. They were never honest with eachother. They both knew they were alone but instead of becoming friends right away they became rivals and enemies. Sasuke didn't have respect for Naruto because he saw him as a trouble maker who was a hindrance to him.

Naruto saw Sasuke as everything he wanted to be but he couldn't express what he really felt. Instead he kept down talking Sasuke and also kept repeatedly trying to get acknowledgement from him. When he couldn't get that, he became frustrated then that turned into anger and just when Sasuke finally gave him some acknowledgment he decides to leave the village and cut his bonds with everyone in it.

We've already seen what Naruto honestly thinks of Sasuke. So in the end I believe we'll see what Sasuke honestly thinks about Naruto.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Sasuke needs to apologize to Sakura, the current kages, Mifune, Killer B, Kakashi, and Naruto. No one else matters that much.

Sakura kind of needs to apologize to Sasuke for trying to kill him first; Naruto will probably apologize to Sasuke for thinking he understood hatred and family bonds before he actually did; and I can see many ninja starting to feel bad if they found out the truth about Itachi.

He will be fine if Sakura and Naruto is there to stand by his side and protect him, the villagers may be grateful that he helped, but they will still feel some type of way, he will be treated like Naruto was. Naruto will give a speak about how it hurts to be ostracized, and how Sasuke only did what he did because of his brother, and how in wanted to end the curse of hatred. Sasuke will say don't bother and try and walk away, then he will be punched to the ground, by no other than Sakura. She will be like " No Sasuke, Naruto's right, that is your problem your always running away when things get a little be tough, but you do not have that luxury now Sasuke, now get up and face your problems, it's not your fault you, shouldn't care what any of these people think." Sasuke and Naruto will be surprised, " Saske eyes will widen and he will start crying, and Team 7 group hug will happens, and Sakura will say that's right Sasuke let it all out, It's not your fault. Then Karin trys to come an ruin the moment, but she get hit by a bus.

I'd rather have Sasuke die than that. But, just to humor you.

Sakura: "" No Sasuke, Naruto's right, that is your problem your always running away when things get a little be tough, but you do not have that luxury now Sasuke, now get up and face your problems, it's not your fault you, shouldn't care what any of these people think."

Sasuke: "*****, you're always in the backseat. Shut the **** up."

I see him apologizing for the people he wronged (IF THEY ASKED FOR APOLOGY LIKE KARIN) .

In karin case she was helping him yet because she become a burden he kill her (if sakura didnt heal her she would be dead)

In kakashi and sakura case there is a difference .

Sakura is the one who tried to kill him .all sasuke did is defending himself .

I think sakura the one who should apologies (although she had a reason )

In kakashi case .

Sasuke was bluffing about always wanting to kill him .

He was trying to kill him for sure but if kakashi was unable to fight back sasuke will just leave him like he did with naruto in valley of the end .

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I see sasuke apolgise for sakura IF SHE ASKED for apology like karin did .but knowing sakura she wont ask for one.

You're much cooler than Femme. So true.

Edit: LOL I mixed Mifune and Mu up.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

It's been already foreshadowed, where have you been?

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I already have my interpretation on what Sasuke will think of Naruto. But it's just an interpretation until he confirms what he really thinks. Here's my thread

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[Beatrix]

Apologies...

Hmm. Is this done without prompting? He needed that from Orochimaru, to apologise to Karin - which in itself is a bit pot-kettle-black considering Orochimaru's history of how he treats his shinobi.
If Sasuke truly meant it (in any context beyond getting her on side to make use of her Heal Bite/Third Eye) or not is another story.

I don't want to see Sasuke apologising - to anyone, it seems highly out of character. Even before he left Konoha, he rarely (if ever) apologised to anyone.

Sakura doesn't deserve an apology and I hope she never gets one.

Kakashi probably doesn't want/need an apology - a look, nod, expression via protecting/fighting alongside, spending time with, acknowleding etc.... are things I would see as likely than "I'm sorry I tried to kill you, and your precious students."

I can see Sasuke coming back - if only to balance out Naruto if he became Hokage.

Naruto = Sarutobi/Hokage
Sasuke = Danzo/ANBU

 

[skg1991]

Sasuke has a lot to apologize for...He is a criminal with a high bounty in the bingo books....His crimes include:1)attacking naruto (team mate and konoha ninja) who came to retrieve him at the valley of the end...2)joining hands with orochimaru(murderer of the third hokage and fourth kazekage and another nukenin)...3)Joining the akatsuki(criminal organization)...4)infiltrating kumogakure...5)attempting to kidnap killer bee...6)attacking the gokage conference as a member of the akatsuki...7)killing Danzo(candidate for the 6th hokage)...8)attacking former team mates, Kakashi and Naruto and attempting to kill Sakura.....Because of all these crimes that he has committed, i don't see him becoming a hokage....he first needs to repent for his crimes....Naruto is probably the only one who will accept him despite all his crimes

 

[grenwood]

1) Using gay as an insult is homophobic
20 there is no evidence for Sasuke being gay
3) Calling someone "gay" because he likes a character that you don't is idiotic and homophobic

no evidence for sasuke being gay? i seem to remember him kissing naruto.
[video=youtube;V27BhBjNdCc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27BhBjNdCc[/video]

he acted like he didnt like it but you know he did. he went back for seconds

 

[uchihajaime]

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You think he's gonna apologize??

Yes, if Sasuke can go from absolutely hating the village to wanting to protect, if Sasuke can regret what he did to Karin enough to apologize, if Sasuke can regain enough morality to want to save his comrades, if Sasuke can give up revenge and live for the future, then Sasuke can apologize. Sasuke has received a lot of character development. He can receive more.

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i guess we will have to wait and see :yeah:

also stopping Sasuke once and for all technically won't contribute to the so called "cycle of hatred"
there are no Uchiha's/no cycle/a criminal that will simply answer for his crimes and will obviously resist (to enforce his new goal : becoming Hokage, killing the bijuu's) which will lead to his death.

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this would be true if the Uchiha were the only ones contributing to the curse of hatred. However, three world wars started not because of the Uchiha. You can't win a war or any conflict by genociding the perceived enemy and blaming it on genetics that make them evil. This is beyond immoral.
There are two ways to atone for your sins. To be punished, such as execution. To give back to society for the wrong done to society. Sasuke is doing this right now by helping to save the world. Sasuke probably will be punished in addition to his atonement. However, after doing good enough to wash away some of his sins, he won't be executed. Kishimoto cannot say the entire curse of hatred will end with the death of the Uchiha. Hatred is not genetic. Killing does not end hatred. What ends hatred is love and realizing mistakes have been made


Dear Equalist,

thank you for the neg rep. You are confusing the real world with Naruto. Naruto's world is very idealistic world. a world where one boy can change the world, a world where one boy can change the worldview and values of a character in one setting. This is not the real world. Naruto is idealistic. Thus, it is possible for Sasuke to atone for his sins primary through good acts and not punishment.

moreover, you have no logic.

You have a really messed up world view on crime and punishment. Read a book. Take a class. Do something. You have no excuse to be this stupid.

This is a conclusion. You need to back that up with premises. I don't know how to refute this because you told me nothing. You want a real world example. I just explained the difference between a punitive and remunerative court.
US criminal case: in Sasuke case it would be treason and murder. you are punished by the state. punitive legal system
US civil case; in Sasuke's case it would be wrongful death. You have to pay the victims of your crime or their family. remunerative legal system

my argument was that Sasuke is doing good acts. He saved the world with Itachi, and that should count for something. This system exists in Naruto. After Sasuke had killed Orochimaru, Diedara, and Itachi, he heard some random Leaf nin (completely impartial unlike Naruto) talk about welcoming in back into the fold. Gaara never went any more of punitive punishment for his murder Thus, it's reasonable to assume that at least some of Sasuke's acts can be washed away by his actions here. They'll be some punishment. He'll never be Hokage but he can be evenually welcomed back into the fold.

I would -rep back but I can't seem to find a post of yours to do that to.

FYI, worldview is one word.

 

[Equalist]

Yes, if Sasuke can go from absolutely hating the village to wanting to protect, if Sasuke can regret what he did to Karin enough to apologize, if Sasuke can regain enough morality to want to save his comrades, if Sasuke can give up revenge and live for the future, then Sasuke can apologize. Sasuke has received a lot of character development. He can receive more.

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this would be true if the Uchiha were the only ones contributing to the curse of hatred. However, three world wars started not because of the Uchiha. You can't win a war or any conflict by genociding the perceived enemy and blaming it on genetics that make them evil. This is beyond immoral.

At what point did you think the five villages were anything but immoral? The war that swallowed Amegakure and the Uchiha Massacre weren't obviously enough for you?

There are two ways to atone for your sins. To be punished, such as execution. To give back to society for the wrong done to society.

You can't atone for your sins by being punished. WTF are you Muslim or something? And given back to society doesn't atone for a sin it atones for a crime. The difference being is that sin stems from doing something that is morally wrong while committed a crime stems from doing something that is illegal. However, the law is not always morally correct. Would Nagato have to atone for starting a revolution, killing Honzo, and his supporters? No. Because he didn't do anything he needed to atone for nor did he commit any war crimes. With that said, would Sasuke have to atone for his sins? No. He hasn't committed any. However, he did commit an act of treason (legal/political implications, not moral ones) so he would have to pay for that crime. If Kishimoto didn't have his bra on that would dictate execution, but they'll probably do something like exile Sasuke or welcome him back as a hero of this war because Kishimoto knows you gay niggas like happy endings.

Sasuke is doing this right now by helping to save the world. Sasuke probably will be punished in addition to his atonement.

I want you to read that again and maybe you're hear how stupid you sound.

However, after doing good enough to wash away some of his sins, he won't be executed. Kishimoto cannot say the entire curse of hatred will end with the death of the Uchiha. Hatred is not genetic. Killing does not end hatred. What ends hatred is love and realizing mistakes have been made

Are you retarded? Kishimoto has been arguing this entire time that hatred is genetic. That's the entire point of this intergenerational war between the Uchiha and the Senju. You are undoubtedly the dumbest person I've met today and it's not even 12:00 PM. Geezus!