[Theory] If Pt3 Possible: Hyuga, Hamura, Kaguya and Hinata will leads the story-line

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

u expect way too much from dat irrelevent fodder

Pt3

Hinata>your fav

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

There won't be Part 3 just the epilogue for Naruto vs Sasuke, people need to realize that this isn't the end of Kaguya , the war isn't over, plus there're tons of shit that needs to explained which you have provided in your thread.

 

[Superior Jinchuriki]

Pt2 Is all about the history of Uchiha has been trolled by Black Zetsu. The clan is no longer interesting for part 3. If possible why Kaguya the princess from far-far away place have a Byakugan and her child Hamura still mysterious who believe to be ancestors of Hyuga clan. Among Naruto promise is to change Hyuga and he make this promise in front of Neji. Hinata is heirs to become the leader of Konoha strongest clan the Hyuga's. She predicted to be Naruto wife or maybe plot become worse an enemy for Naruto. This will explain all the way the Hyuga's history with Shinju Fruit (Hyuga logos is exactly the same with Shinju sign). Hinata notabilities linkage and personal characteristic is maybe how Kaguya wills before she eat the fruit.

And why Hyuga still a clan that didn't really use chakura to fight instead of to shut off chakura technique. Kaguya clan extinct Kimmomoro should be the body of Kaguya while Hamura body somehow connected with uzumaki's. I dont know if this is right but it about the time for Snake/Hebi plot to be in villain moods again. Dragon/Snake from holy tree as write in bible history is transformation of lucifer to posses Eve to eat the fruit of knowledge. It also connected wth the Rabbit eaten by snake in japanese folk tales. In the end Sasuke is the one who will lead the team as the Dragon to be final villain.

Hyugas, Sages, planets, Dragons is the lead in Part3 if the arc is actually happening.

Uhh, actually, Satan tempted Eve to eat the fruit. He didn't possess her.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Only strongest character have Byakugan which meaning Byakugan is a lot to show in pt3. Sharingan just for a fodder like Indra and descendant even fodder trolled by Black Zetsu.

no need to but hurt.

 

[ShadowBandit]

Damn you Hygua fanatics are beyond help......there a clan of side characters nothing more.

Only strongest character have Byakugan which meaning Byakugan is a lot to show in pt3. Sharingan just for a fodder like Indra and descendant even fodder trolled by Black Zetsu.

no need to but hurt.

Considering the fact that Kakuyga wasn't considered powerful because of her Byakugan, only because of her rinnegan/shargian eye. Are you a child because your logic is dumb as hell.

The manga is about Naruto and Sasuke.......Part 3 is just a series of movies following the end of the manga, not an exploration of some clan.

Also Hinata is losing her selfish desire to be with Naruto in the infinite infinite tsukuyomi dream as we speak. Thats what the "strong" characters discover in the infinite tsukuyomi, that there selfish desire isn't really want they really wanted.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Damn you Hygua fanatics are beyond help......there a clan of side characters nothing more.



Considering the fact that Kakuyga wasn't considered powerful because of her Byakugan, only because of her rinnegan/shargian eye. Are you a child because your logic is dumb as hell.

The manga is about Naruto and Sasuke.......Part 3 is just a series of movies following the end of the manga, not an exploration of some clan.

Also Hinata is losing her selfish desire to be with Naruto in the infinite infinite tsukuyomi dream as we speak. Thats what the "strong" characters discover in the infinite tsukuyomi, that there selfish desire isn't really want they really wanted.

damn explain side character but ancestor of all chakura Kaguya is origin of Byakugan and Hamura is probably the father of all Hyuga.

Hinata is the true character that really popular in Japan in Kishi few time mention the heroine side of Her. Some random threads or unofficial even shadowing sakura's death. Hyuga=uchiha=Uzumaki is the new trio. face it.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

damn explain side character but ancestor of all chakura Kaguya is origin of Byakugan and Hamura is probably the father of all Hyuga.

Hinata is the true character that really popular in Japan in Kishi few time mention the heroine side of Her. Some random threads or unofficial even shadowing sakura's death. Hyuga=uchiha=Uzumaki is the new trio. face it.

Not to mentioned Kishimoto did state in the interview that there's going to be more Hyuga development and this was happened after Neji death so...

 

[Aim64C]

Damn you Hygua fanatics are beyond help......there a clan of side characters nothing more.

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Kishimoto is using the Later Heaven arrangement (cycling arrangement as opposed to opposite arrangement - or the "Early Heaven" arrangement). The key to Naruto's seal...

Take a look at what element is 'missing' - and 'written on.'

The element of 'thunder' or 'lightning.' Which is the element regarding division/separation. Which is precisely -what- the key does.

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This is one of Kishimoto's first drafts submitted regarding character design.

Naruto is characterized by the sun while Hinata stands in the shade of a hill. This is classic Taoist representation of Yin-Yang relationship.

Also, the Uzumaki symbol?

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That shows both early and late heaven arrangements, as well as the 64 hexagrams.

Although if you want a really fun one to look at:

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That is actually part of the 'model' behind the Gentle Fist style (which is based off of, if I remember correctly, Baguazhang; the Gentle Step is based off of Taijiquan - which is how the Ototsuki army was originally trained, I would imagine).

The reason the "64 palms" ends with both hands crossed in the way they do is because the final two tetragrams are right there in the middle - they are the focal balance and the symbol of yin-yang cycling.

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The secret to the 64 Palms is Yin and Yang working together - which was symbolized by the memory of Naruto taking Hinata's hand.

Considering the fact that Kakuyga wasn't considered powerful because of her Byakugan, only because of her rinnegan/shargian eye. Are you a child because your logic is dumb as hell.

Well, speaking of logic - where is it said that Kaguya was considered powerful -only- because of the awakened Sharingan (she did not have the Rinnegan)?

Kaguya was powerful because she was powerful.

The manga is about Naruto and Sasuke.......Part 3 is just a series of movies following the end of the manga, not an exploration of some clan.

The manga is about Naruto. An Uzumaki.

The techniques of which were blatantly based on Taoist (Hyuuga) themed symbols.

Also Hinata is losing her selfish desire to be with Naruto in the infinite infinite tsukuyomi dream as we speak. Thats what the "strong" characters discover in the infinite tsukuyomi, that there selfish desire isn't really want they really wanted.

According to...?

You see... if you bothered to research things instead of just yak off, you'd learn a thing or two.

Remember the key?

The first picture.

You notice anything... odd?

Like that square?

And now that you look at it... why are the eight trigrams displayed as triangles? I mean... it kind of works because triangles have three sides and three points... but it seems a bit unusual.

Square = Sun Goddess: Amaterasu.

Circle = Moon God: Tsukuyomi.

Traingle = Star God: Susano'o.

Amaterasu rules the state of divine awareness - of being aware of the world around them and inspired to a higher purpose.

Tsukuyomi rules the state of divine sleep - of not being aware of the world and dreaming outside of reality (this is not necessarily a bad thing as it allows new ideas to enter reality).

Susano'o rules the journey between the two states (though usually from sleep to aware) - this comes from the time when stars were used for navigation. The stars remind us to be aware - to be 'present' within the divine.

The 'ability' Infinite Tsukuyomi, thus, is a state of infinite dream - infinite non-reality.

The erosion of the personality and conversion into White-Zetsu is symbolic of the way in which people caught in the 'doldrums' or 'lost in the thrum of life' can cease to have individuality.

It represents the temptation to give up on pursuing your goals to simply be content dreaming about them.

I can almost guarantee that if we get a cut-away into IT to see someone (Hinata, specifically) break out of it on their own - it will be done with the inclusion of the stars. -MAYBE- the moon will 'trigger' something - but it's hard to say for sure.

IT isn't about showing you that you never wanted your dream. It's about tempting you to simply live your dream as opposed to work for your dream. It's the temptation to reject reality versus the strength to live in reality.

Although I also suspect that Hinata will encounter Kaguya in her dream world.

There is a reason Kaguya suddenly flipped out and decided to reclaim the fruit from her children. There is a reason she suddenly stopped having any concern for the disposition of the people she'd stayed behind to nurture.

The secret to that lay with Hinata, and might possibly involve the Head Family and Hinata's mother.

You see... there's a reason Orochimaru dispatched Kabuto to heal Hinata from a mysterious injury that no one else could fix. Except for the personal medic of Orochimaru - a man who was studying the Sage of Six Paths (and more - as evidenced by Kimimaro), Nature Chakra, etc long before it was cool.

That's going to come back into play really soon.

And everyone's going to shout "ass pulls" even when I have been predicting this stuff for over a year, now.

It's still interesting to see where Kishimoto takes the plot, though.

 

[-Drāke-]

You hyuga tards are making me sick

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

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Kishimoto is using the Later Heaven arrangement (cycling arrangement as opposed to opposite arrangement - or the "Early Heaven" arrangement). The key to Naruto's seal...

Take a look at what element is 'missing' - and 'written on.'

The element of 'thunder' or 'lightning.' Which is the element regarding division/separation. Which is precisely -what- the key does.

You must be registered for see images

This is one of Kishimoto's first drafts submitted regarding character design.

Naruto is characterized by the sun while Hinata stands in the shade of a hill. This is classic Taoist representation of Yin-Yang relationship.

Also, the Uzumaki symbol?

You must be registered for see images

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That shows both early and late heaven arrangements, as well as the 64 hexagrams.

Although if you want a really fun one to look at:

You must be registered for see images

That is actually part of the 'model' behind the Gentle Fist style (which is based off of, if I remember correctly, Baguazhang; the Gentle Step is based off of Taijiquan - which is how the Ototsuki army was originally trained, I would imagine).

The reason the "64 palms" ends with both hands crossed in the way they do is because the final two tetragrams are right there in the middle - they are the focal balance and the symbol of yin-yang cycling.

You must be registered for see images

The secret to the 64 Palms is Yin and Yang working together - which was symbolized by the memory of Naruto taking Hinata's hand.



Well, speaking of logic - where is it said that Kaguya was considered powerful -only- because of the awakened Sharingan (she did not have the Rinnegan)?

Kaguya was powerful because she was powerful.



The manga is about Naruto. An Uzumaki.

The techniques of which were blatantly based on Taoist (Hyuuga) themed symbols.



According to...?

You see... if you bothered to research things instead of just yak off, you'd learn a thing or two.

Remember the key?

The first picture.

You notice anything... odd?

Like that square?

And now that you look at it... why are the eight trigrams displayed as triangles? I mean... it kind of works because triangles have three sides and three points... but it seems a bit unusual.

Square = Sun Goddess: Amaterasu.

Circle = Moon God: Tsukuyomi.

Traingle = Star God: Susano'o.

Amaterasu rules the state of divine awareness - of being aware of the world around them and inspired to a higher purpose.

Tsukuyomi rules the state of divine sleep - of not being aware of the world and dreaming outside of reality (this is not necessarily a bad thing as it allows new ideas to enter reality).

Susano'o rules the journey between the two states (though usually from sleep to aware) - this comes from the time when stars were used for navigation. The stars remind us to be aware - to be 'present' within the divine.

The 'ability' Infinite Tsukuyomi, thus, is a state of infinite dream - infinite non-reality.

The erosion of the personality and conversion into White-Zetsu is symbolic of the way in which people caught in the 'doldrums' or 'lost in the thrum of life' can cease to have individuality.

It represents the temptation to give up on pursuing your goals to simply be content dreaming about them.

I can almost guarantee that if we get a cut-away into IT to see someone (Hinata, specifically) break out of it on their own - it will be done with the inclusion of the stars. -MAYBE- the moon will 'trigger' something - but it's hard to say for sure.

IT isn't about showing you that you never wanted your dream. It's about tempting you to simply live your dream as opposed to work for your dream. It's the temptation to reject reality versus the strength to live in reality.

Although I also suspect that Hinata will encounter Kaguya in her dream world.

There is a reason Kaguya suddenly flipped out and decided to reclaim the fruit from her children. There is a reason she suddenly stopped having any concern for the disposition of the people she'd stayed behind to nurture.

The secret to that lay with Hinata, and might possibly involve the Head Family and Hinata's mother.

You see... there's a reason Orochimaru dispatched Kabuto to heal Hinata from a mysterious injury that no one else could fix. Except for the personal medic of Orochimaru - a man who was studying the Sage of Six Paths (and more - as evidenced by Kimimaro), Nature Chakra, etc long before it was cool.

That's going to come back into play really soon.

And everyone's going to shout "ass pulls" even when I have been predicting this stuff for over a year, now.

It's still interesting to see where Kishimoto takes the plot, though.

Thanks

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[so12p]

Kishi is bored with Naruto he won't make a pt 3

Maybe. Maybe not. But I am sure his publishers are NOT bored with all the money they are making from Naruto.

 

[Byakugan12x]

again..... hinata...... can you and like minded people just let that go, wow the hinata fans are approaching hiruzen level. shes not getting ANYTHING! and thats that urgh

 

[Secret Zetsu]

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Kishimoto is using the Later Heaven arrangement (cycling arrangement as opposed to opposite arrangement - or the "Early Heaven" arrangement). The key to Naruto's seal...

Take a look at what element is 'missing' - and 'written on.'

The element of 'thunder' or 'lightning.' Which is the element regarding division/separation. Which is precisely -what- the key does.

You must be registered for see images

This is one of Kishimoto's first drafts submitted regarding character design.

Naruto is characterized by the sun while Hinata stands in the shade of a hill. This is classic Taoist representation of Yin-Yang relationship.

Also, the Uzumaki symbol?

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

That shows both early and late heaven arrangements, as well as the 64 hexagrams.

Although if you want a really fun one to look at:

You must be registered for see images

That is actually part of the 'model' behind the Gentle Fist style (which is based off of, if I remember correctly, Baguazhang; the Gentle Step is based off of Taijiquan - which is how the Ototsuki army was originally trained, I would imagine).

The reason the "64 palms" ends with both hands crossed in the way they do is because the final two tetragrams are right there in the middle - they are the focal balance and the symbol of yin-yang cycling.

You must be registered for see images

The secret to the 64 Palms is Yin and Yang working together - which was symbolized by the memory of Naruto taking Hinata's hand.



Well, speaking of logic - where is it said that Kaguya was considered powerful -only- because of the awakened Sharingan (she did not have the Rinnegan)?

Kaguya was powerful because she was powerful.



The manga is about Naruto. An Uzumaki.

The techniques of which were blatantly based on Taoist (Hyuuga) themed symbols.



According to...?

You see... if you bothered to research things instead of just yak off, you'd learn a thing or two.

Remember the key?

The first picture.

You notice anything... odd?

Like that square?

And now that you look at it... why are the eight trigrams displayed as triangles? I mean... it kind of works because triangles have three sides and three points... but it seems a bit unusual.

Square = Sun Goddess: Amaterasu.

Circle = Moon God: Tsukuyomi.

Traingle = Star God: Susano'o.

Amaterasu rules the state of divine awareness - of being aware of the world around them and inspired to a higher purpose.

Tsukuyomi rules the state of divine sleep - of not being aware of the world and dreaming outside of reality (this is not necessarily a bad thing as it allows new ideas to enter reality).

Susano'o rules the journey between the two states (though usually from sleep to aware) - this comes from the time when stars were used for navigation. The stars remind us to be aware - to be 'present' within the divine.

The 'ability' Infinite Tsukuyomi, thus, is a state of infinite dream - infinite non-reality.

The erosion of the personality and conversion into White-Zetsu is symbolic of the way in which people caught in the 'doldrums' or 'lost in the thrum of life' can cease to have individuality.

It represents the temptation to give up on pursuing your goals to simply be content dreaming about them.

I can almost guarantee that if we get a cut-away into IT to see someone (Hinata, specifically) break out of it on their own - it will be done with the inclusion of the stars. -MAYBE- the moon will 'trigger' something - but it's hard to say for sure.

IT isn't about showing you that you never wanted your dream. It's about tempting you to simply live your dream as opposed to work for your dream. It's the temptation to reject reality versus the strength to live in reality.

Although I also suspect that Hinata will encounter Kaguya in her dream world.

There is a reason Kaguya suddenly flipped out and decided to reclaim the fruit from her children. There is a reason she suddenly stopped having any concern for the disposition of the people she'd stayed behind to nurture.

The secret to that lay with Hinata, and might possibly involve the Head Family and Hinata's mother.

You see... there's a reason Orochimaru dispatched Kabuto to heal Hinata from a mysterious injury that no one else could fix. Except for the personal medic of Orochimaru - a man who was studying the Sage of Six Paths (and more - as evidenced by Kimimaro), Nature Chakra, etc long before it was cool.

That's going to come back into play really soon.

And everyone's going to shout "ass pulls" even when I have been predicting this stuff for over a year, now.

It's still interesting to see where Kishimoto takes the plot, though.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Aim64C again."

 

[Aim64C]

again..... hinata...... can you and like minded people just let that go, wow the hinata fans are approaching hiruzen level. shes not getting ANYTHING! and thats that urgh

The thing is that Hinata doesn't -need- 'anything.'

Look at each and every time she's made an appearance.

"Cousin Neji, we fight."

- This was a yin-yang exchange between Naruto and Hinata. Hinata's yin was emboldened to form while Naruto's yang was conceptualized to form. It was during this exchange that Hinata could see Neji's suffering. But accepting the fight was also just as important to Naruto. Without Hinata's acceptance of the fight, Naruto would have been deflated.

The outcome of the match was the same - but it was Naruto who needed to see Hinata reach that outcome.

"I like people like you."

- This was an important exchange between the two. Naruto dropped the facade.

Later, he would require these moments when he faced Neji.

It is also interesting to note that Naruto's 'defeat' and Hinata's injury "going critical" are in lock-step with each other. When Naruto is 'defeated' - Hinata is rendered unconscious by her injury. When Naruto recovers - it is shown in synch with Kabuto's healing of said injury.

This is all around the time where Neji says: "You and Hinata share the same destiny."

I'd pull manga scans - but I've done it several times long before you knew these forums existed. I compiled them into one of my own threads that I will link to in a bit.

This is classic symbolism. In part 2 - what did we learn Naruto's destiny was?

And who turned out to have the Byakugan (my theory was posited before Kaguya was known to exist)?

Once again - if you people bothered to pay attention and research things - you'd realize that Kishimoto doesn't do "ass pulls."

Granted - if he did a better job of writing, one would not need to research in order to understand that the plot movement was in concert with the 'fabric' of the 'author's universe' - but still.

Even before Kaguya was presented - there was an evidence-based approach to predicting that the Byakugan lay at the 'end' of the series.

Anyway - the Chunin exams set up the idea of Destiny and a conflict with Destiny. Kishimoto actually did a pretty good job with making him the "child of prophecy." While shallow observers seem to think this cheapens Naruto's character by making his accomplishments "destined" as opposed to "earned" - everyone believed his accomplishments were earned up until there was talk of prophecy. So it actually illustrates the concept of Taoist destiny perfectly. Just because something is destined does not mean it will come without effort - in many cases trying to let it 'be destined' only increases the effort you must go through to fulfill it.

Although there are other ideas regarding destiny that Kishimoto also hints at. If Naruto failed - then Pain would have changed the world and brought peace to it. Though not in the way the prophecy was interpreted - though no less compliant with it.

This similar pattern could have repeated had Naruto accepted Obito's offer. But I digress:

"That is why I'm not afraid to die, here, protecting you."

This is where the arc of Naruto's character development changes. This is where he officially accepts and understands the notion of changing the world and bringing peace to it.

Had it not been for Hinata's actions - Naruto would have been captured and would have died following his beast's extraction. Even in the off-chance he would have survived - he would not have been any closer to answering Nagato.

It was Hinata's sacrifice that gave him the 'push' and the depth of understanding necessary in order to answer Nagato as an equal. He overcame what Nagato could not.

It was also through this that Naruto rejected Nagato's solution of simply subjecting people to repeated catastrophes to blunt the onset of war. By rejecting this solution (which was the only one presented to him at the time) - he resolved to finding a different solution. Thus we started a new arc of Naruto's character development.

Guided by Hinata.

"I will never let go of your hand."

Once again - we see Naruto confronted with a solution to peace at a time when he is desperate for an answer. He still hasn't found the answer, and here his friends are dying to protect him when there's a solution right in front of them. They could all live in happiness...

Except it's false. His friends would rather endure a life of hardships and uncertainty with faith in each other than to accept a world of illusions. They would rather die for the uncertainty than live for the falsehood. Hinata reminded him of this, once again guiding him back onto the path of seeking a new answer - the right answer.

Hinata has been there through many of the major arc changes in Naruto's character and overall course through life. She's been the sacrifice here, the nudge there, the slap across the face - she's been what was necessary to keep Naruto going in the right direction.

Nothing was done. Nothing was left undone.

Hinata embodies a greater mastery of Taoist sagehood than Hagoromo could -ever- muster, and is only as powerful as she needs to be to ensure destiny is fulfilled.

She should be making an appearance any time, now. We're about to see a huge change in the arc of Naruto's character - as he's about to have to reject the Sage's heresy.

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That's an old one where I originally outlined the Taoist references in Naruto and Hinata's relationship.

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A younger one. I am trying to remember if Kaguya had come into play yet, or not. She may have - or may have only been mentioned by Madara.

It's hard to use these theories to predict the 'mundane' events of the manga. I would say we'll see Hinata make an entrance within the next 4 chapters - but that is just with my expectation of how the plot will flow. Things many not happen nearly as fast as I suspect they will - he could draw out a discussion between Naruto and the Sage - he could cut to a few dream sequences. He could suddenly insert a "Kaguya History" arc that would piss everybody off (not that we don't want to hear about Kaguya - but there's a time and a place for cut-aways like that).

It's even possible that it will be Hinata who directly confronts the Sage at first - possibly having inherited information about Kaguya though the IT sequence (since I strongly suspect her original injury - that only Orochimaru's personal aide... who was studying Kimamaru of the Kaguya clan.......... could fix will come back into play here). Or perhaps just because she realizes that's what she needs to do.

Alternatively, she could un-seal Kaguya, returning her compassion to her. Though that is a bit of a stretch.

The exact events surrounding her are difficult to predict - but the overall concept will likely fall in line.

 

[sexywave]

IM NOT BUYING ITS GOING TO BE A PART 3

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