If Otsutsuki are so powerful because of Byakugan.

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Yup he had enough raw power to wreck an EMS and rinnegan user without even having to activate his byakugan.

@Bold Were it the case then she'd have used her rinnesharingan :lol



Lol Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack is her baykugan technique which she used for offense for the most part.

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Yup the guy who could split the moon in half is trash. Sure lol.

Why would Kinshiki need his byakugan when he was already wrecking him without them?

As I said we'll see when Urashiki actually reveals his powers.

Doesn't change the fact she preferred using her Rinne-sharingan, which is expected considering her Rinne-sharingan is labelled a "Kekkei-Mora," while her Byakugan is a measly Kekkei-Genkai.

Yes, the guy who got one-shotted by a punch that can be easily replicated by casual Saitama. By the way, you do know the Moon was hollow? Takes away the impressive stench it had.

Because he doesn't need it, as showed when he was getting wrecked by the kages and didn't use it.
 

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This is what I call reaching bro. Keep it up...:coffee:

@Bold And I am glad to see you salty :lol

Definitely not salty just speaking facts.

Outside of the God Palm feat + needles from a God(Kaguya) what other byakugan feats do we have? hmmm i'll wait lol

Even Boruto has a new eye completely bypassing the Byakugan lol
 

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Definitely not salty just speaking facts.

Outside of the God Palm feat + needles from a God(Kaguya) what other byakugan feats do we have? hmmm i'll wait lol

Even Boruto has a new eye completely bypassing the Byakugan lol

You can wait forever cuz those techinques alone were making Sasuke look like a fodder lol.

And Boruto's eyes are related to the baykugan but ofc a salty uchiha fanboy would never admit the facts.
 

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Why do all the most powerful ones use Rinnegan?

There were only like 4 of them shown so far and I don't believe i've seen 2 of them even use it or have it for that matter.

I'm not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or if you're failing to realize the capabilities of Rinnegan and Byakugan and the opportune times to use it.


Not to mention given the fact that they are the originators of Byakugan, it's an eye as common as having dark hair. It isn't rare to them and from my understanding, it's not necessarily advantageous to use against each other.
 
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You can wait forever cuz those techinques alone were making Sasuke look like a fodder lol.

And Boruto's eyes are related to the baykugan but ofc a salty uchiha fanboy would never admit the facts.

Well it is Kaguya after all :)

Not an uchiha fanboy and related to doesn't make it the Byakugan.

Jougan is not the Byakugan

There were only like 4 of them shown so far and I don't believe i've seen 2 of them even use it or have it for that matter.

I'm not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or if you're failing to realize the capabilities of Rinnegan and Byakugan and the opportune times to use it.


Not to mention given the fact that they are the originators of Byakugan, it's an eye as common as having dark hair. It isn't rare to them and from my understanding, it's not necessarily advantageous to use against each other.

That's the point im actually illustrating. Only the fans believe the byakugan is "important" however the manga is clearly showing us its nothing more than a base level dojutsu with no real purpose in high level engagements.

Only person who made the Byakugan look good was Kaguya... Which is due to her being.. Kaguya. Even with her using the Byakugan she still did a lot more with her other dojutsu. much much more
 
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Doesn't change the fact she preferred using her Rinne-sharingan, which is expected considering her Rinne-sharingan is labelled a "Kekkei-Mora," while her Byakugan is a measly Kekkei-Genkai.

You need to get your facts right bro. Byakugan is also one of her Kekkei Mora lol. No wonder you're making such foolish claims that she preferred her rinnesharingan over the byakugan.
She used whichever attack was the most suitable for a situation and byakugan abilities mostly for offense. Like the 80 god vacuum palm attack to neg Sasuke or the needle attack.

Yes, the guy who got one-shotted by a punch that can be easily replicated by casual Saitama. By the way, you do know the Moon was hollow? Takes away the impressive stench it had.

Yeah Saitama doesn't exist in NV. You're trying too hard here.
I do know it was hollow but Toneri didn't ;)

Because he doesn't need it, as showed when he was getting wrecked by the kages and didn't use it.

He was doing just fine till three kage level opponents ganged up on him and he was immobilized before he could even you it lol.

Well it is Kaguya after all :)

Not an uchiha fanboy and related to doesn't make it the Byakugan.

Jougan is not the Byakugan

Well ofc. And she demonstrated the byakugan's powers perfectly.

Never said its the byakugan lol. Only that its derived from it.
 

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There were only like 4 of them shown so far and I don't believe i've seen 2 of them even use it or have it for that matter.

I'm not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or if you're failing to realize the capabilities of Rinnegan and Byakugan and the opportune times to use it.


Not to mention given the fact that they are the originators of Byakugan, it's an eye as common as having dark hair. It isn't rare to them and from my understanding, it's not necessarily advantageous to use against each other.

The techniques of the Rinnegan dwarfs the techniques of the Byakugan in potency, viability, intricacy.

It's not necessarily advantageous to use against each other; yet they barely used it against opponents outside their bloodline.

When Kaguya ate the chakra-fruit, she transcended and gain the Rinne-Sharingan.

Momoshiki attained his third eye, which was a Rinnegan, after he transcended from devouring Kishinki. And it was highly posited he acquired his Rinnegan because he ate his chakra-fruit of his dimension. What this implies is that the Byakugan is an underlying of the Rinnegan, since everytime they transcend, they acquired it.
 

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If Kaguya was that strong without Rinne sharingan Kaguya wouldnt have eaten the chakra's Fruit. :lol Kaguya ended the war after eating the chakra Fruit. Which directly implies she isnt strong enough to beat anyone with Byakugan alone :lol.
 

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If Kaguya was that strong without Rinne sharingan Kaguya wouldnt have eaten the chakra's Fruit. :lol Kaguya ended the war after eating the chakra Fruit. Which directly implies she isnt strong enough to beat anyone with Byakugan alone :lol.

Everybody knows that even those who feign ignorance.
 

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You need to get your facts right bro. Byakugan is also one of her Kekkei Mora lol. No wonder you're making such foolish claims that she preferred her rinnesharingan over the byakugan.
She used whichever attack was the most suitable for a situation and byakugan abilities mostly for offense. Like the 80 god vacuum palm attack to neg Sasuke or the needle attack.



Yeah Saitama doesn't exist in NV. You're trying too hard here.
I do know it was hollow but Toneri didn't ;)



He was doing just fine till three kage level opponents ganged up on him and he was immobilized before he could even you it lol.



Well ofc. And she demonstrated the byakugan's powers perfectly.

Never said its the byakugan lol. Only that its derived from it.

No. Her Byakugan was never stated to be a Kekkei-mora, only her attacks, and the Rinne-sharingan. Eighty gods vacuum attack was called a Kekkei-mora because it was a technique of her own making.

Moreover, trying to make your proposition factual is saying;

Rinne-sharingan = Byakugan, which is retarded.

Her actions suggest her Rinne-sharingan was her most preferential doujutsu. She used it most times, and some of her strongest technique were made pragmatic by it. E.g Amenominaka.

Furthermore, when she was cornered prior to her encampment, she instantly thought of using Amenominaka, almost as if it was a reflex. She could have easily used her Byakugan to disperse chakra from her body along with her assailants, but didn't.

The point of including Saitama and the specific word "casual" is put into pespective that Naruto's punch was weak, yet it one-shotted Toneri


Toneri thought it wasn't hollow? Have you seem the movie by any chance or are you pretending to be ignorant?

The view he was gang-up, while not deciding to use the Byakugan only proves my point further for the reason the Byakugan would had increase his chance of reacting to the Kages techniques.
 
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No. Her Byakugan was never stated to be a Kekkei-mora, only her attacks, and the Rinne-sharingan. Eighty gods vacuum attack was called a Kekkei-mora because it was a technique of her own making.

Moreover, trying to make your proposition factual is saying;

Rinne-sharingan = Byakugan, which is retarded.

Her actions suggest her Rinne-sharingan was her most preferential doujutsu. She used it most times, and some of her strongest technique were made pragmatic by it. E.g Amenominaka.

Furthermore, when she was cornered prior to her encampment, she instantly thought of using Amenominaka, almost as if it was a reflex. She could have easily used her Byakugan to disperse chakra from her body along with her assailants, but didn't.

The point of including Saitama and the specific word "casual" is put into pespective that Naruto's punch was weak, yet it one-shotted Toneri


Toneri thought it wasn't hollow? Have you seem the movie by any chance or are you pretending to be ignorant?

The view he was gang-up, while not deciding to use the Byakugan only proves my point further for the reason the Byakugan would had increase his chance of reacting to the Kages techniques.

Again get your facts right lol. All of Kaguya's abilities and doujutsu are classified as Kekkei Mora not because of the reason you're giving about the 80 gods vacuum technique.

I never said Rinnesharinga = Byakugan nor did I in anyway imply so.

And as I said, she used the technique she thought to be the best option under the situation.

Naruto's punch was weak?....:lmao:

Well not by NV standard lol. Not to mention comparing a character from another series just to show Naruto's punch was weak is very stupid lol.

I said he didn't know that it was hollow unless you could prove that he did.

Sasuke attacked him first, then Choujiro and he was still doing fine till Kurotshuchi attacked him and immobilized him along with Choujiro's technique before Kinshiki could make a move. So yes he didn't get the chance to use it.
 

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The techniques of the Rinnegan dwarfs the techniques of the Byakugan in potency, viability, intricacy.

It's not necessarily advantageous to use against each other; yet they barely used it against opponents outside their bloodline.

When Kaguya ate the chakra-fruit, she transcended and gain the Rinne-Sharingan.

Momoshiki attained his third eye, which was a Rinnegan, after he transcended from devouring Kishinki. And it was highly posited he acquired his Rinnegan because he ate his chakra-fruit of his dimension. What this implies is that the Byakugan is an underlying of the Rinnegan, since everytime they transcend, they acquired it.

Why would you use it on opponents outside your bloodline when you have Rinnegan? Not to mention it's not as if Momoshiki was necessarily skilled. The aliens just seem to be naturally stronger than some of the strongest humans regardless of training. When Momoshiki absorbed him he resorted to spamming Rinnegan and physically overwhelmed his opponents.

Kinshiki could have used it but it he utilizes chakra weapons.

They aren't powerful because of Byakugan. They are just more powerful with it, because outside of the feats already displayed in Part 1 and 2, it has ties to Boruto's eye, tenseigan and seeing fates. Byakugan could be the equivalent of 1T for all we know with Jougan/Tenseigan/Yellow Byakugan.
 

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Hamura was portrayed to be on par with Hagoromo when they sealed Kaguya and he doesn't have tenseigan at that time. Kinshiki nor Urashiki have rinnegan. Even Kaguya somehow have the ability to transport to earth before consuming the chakra fruit so it's linking to something considering we don't know the secret pedigree of the Ootsutski clan.
 

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Who said they're powerful because of there Byakugan? It's there Byakguan that's powerful, thats it.
 

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Again get your facts right lol. All of Kaguya's abilities and doujutsu are classified as Kekkei Mora not because of the reason you're giving about the 80 gods vacuum technique.

I never said Rinnesharinga = Byakugan nor did I in anyway imply so.

And as I said, she used the technique she thought to be the best option under the situation.

Naruto's punch was weak?....:lmao:

Well not by NV standard lol. Not to mention comparing a character from another series just to show Naruto's punch was weak is very stupid lol.

I said he didn't know that it was hollow unless you could prove that he did.

Sasuke attacked him first, then Choujiro and he was still doing fine till Kurotshuchi attacked him and immobilized him along with Choujiro's technique before Kinshiki could make a move. So yes he didn't get the chance to use it.

"All of Kaguya's abilities and doujutsu are classified as Kekkei Mora"

Again, no.
Only her Rinne-sharingan was called a Kekkei-mora, and from my recent findings; that was because it embodied Kaguya's chakra.

In both eyes, Kaguya carried the Byakugan. Eating the fruit of the Shinjyu, she also awakened the "Rinnesharingan" on her forehead. Embodied in Kaguya’s chakra! That power is certainly in God’s domain (/range)!

She used mainly her Rinnesharigan as I have established; due to the fact it was superior.

"Not to mention comparing a character from another series just to show Naruto's punch was weak is very stupid lol."

Nothing negates a comparative method, regardless if it branches of another series. This is misleading.

Furthermore Naruto's punch was weak in the sense that it only lugged Toneri a few miles on the moon's surface.

"I said he didn't know that it was hollow unless you could prove that he did"

He lived inside of it turd. How the hell wouldn't he know it was hollow, and how does the case make his feat impressive?

"So yes he didn't get the chance to use it."

Yes, because all he wanted through out the event was to fight at half-power.
*headdesk*

Just so you know, the manga extended his battle with the kages a little bit, and he wasn't shown using the Byakugan, even while he was getting overwhelmed.
 
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"All of Kaguya's abilities and doujutsu are classified as Kekkei Mora"

Again, no.
Only her Rinne-sharingan was called a Kekkei-mora, and from my recent findings; that was because it embodied Kaguya's chakra.

In both eyes, Kaguya carried the Byakugan. Eating the fruit of the Shinjyu, she also awakened the "Rinnesharingan" on her forehead. Embodied in Kaguya’s chakra! That power is certainly in God’s domain (/range)!

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Kaguya's Byakugan is a KKM bro.
 

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Why would you use it on opponents outside your bloodline when you have Rinnegan? Not to mention it's not as if Momoshiki was necessarily skilled. The aliens just seem to be naturally stronger than some of the strongest humans regardless of training. When Momoshiki absorbed him he resorted to spamming Rinnegan and physically overwhelmed his opponents.

Kinshiki could have used it but it he utilizes chakra weapons.

They aren't powerful because of Byakugan. They are just more powerful with it, because outside of the feats already displayed in Part 1 and 2, it has ties to Boruto's eye, tenseigan and seeing fates. Byakugan could be the equivalent of 1T for all we know with Jougan/Tenseigan/Yellow Byakugan.

Why? Because it was useless.

The rest of your point in that paragraph doesn't address my points.

The Rinnegan was a result of an upgrade, proving it was superior to the Byakugan which is why the Otsutsuki preferred using it.
 

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Again, no.
Only her Rinne-sharingan was called a Kekkei-mora, and from my recent findings; that was because it embodied Kaguya's chakra.

In both eyes, Kaguya carried the Byakugan. Eating the fruit of the Shinjyu, she also awakened the "Rinnesharingan" on her forehead. Embodied in Kaguya’s chakra! That power is certainly in God’s domain (/range)!

She used mainly her Rinnesharigan as I have established; due to the fact it was superior.

Again get your facts right bro :lol

You have established nothing. You need to go read the manga again. I am not going to waste my time debating a misinformed guy.

Nothing negates a comparative method, regardless if it branches of another series. This is misleading vividness.

Stupid comparison is a stupid comparison bro.

Furthermore Naruto's punch was weak in the sense that it only lugged Toneri a few miles on the moon's surface.

Wonder what is weak though lol.

This punch or your brain.

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He lived inside of it turd. How the hell wouldn't he know it was hollow, and how does the case make his feat impressive?

Lmafao no. Go watch the movie again lol.

Besides Kaguya along with the Gedou Mazo was sealed inside the moon before Madara summoned them to earth. So again go read the manga bro.

Your lack of knowledge is laughable lol

Yes, because all he wanted through out the event was to fight at half-power.
*headdesk*

Just so you know, the manga extended his battle with the kages a little bit, and he wasn't shown using the Byakugan, even while he was getting overwhelmed.

Its rare for two comabatants to start at their full power and the manga is full of such instances. So its not that surprising that Kinshiki didn't use his byakugan from the start. And please read his fight vs the kage in the manga which again proves my point only.
 

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Again get your facts right bro :lol

You have established nothing. You need to go read the manga again. I am not going to waste my time debating a misinformed guy.



Stupid comparison is a stupid comparison bro.



Wonder what is weak though lol.

This punch or your brain.

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Lmafao no. Go watch the movie again lol.

Besides Kaguya along with the Gedou Mazo was sealed inside the moon before Madara summoned them to earth. So again go read the manga bro.

Your lack of knowledge is laughable lol



Its rare for two comabatants to start at their full power and the manga is full of such instances. So its not that surprising that Kinshiki didn't use his byakugan from the start. And please read his fight vs the kage in the manga which again proves my point only.

Now he resorts to Ad hominem.
Typical.

"Your lack of knowledge is laughable lol"

His castle was floating on a huge hole inside the moon.

He even used a hurricane technique to create a hole from inside the moon.

When he took Hinata from Naruto, it was on a forest inside the Moon.

Toneri would have to be completely retarded to think it wasn't hollow. But then again, I shouldn't blame him, after all you brought up the suggestion.

You have to take his mantle of being completely retarded.

"Its rare for two comabatants to start atq their full power and the manga is full of such instances"

It's stupid for a combatant not to use their full power amidst getting overwhelmed, lest you think it won't change anything.
 
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