if not for plot,kakashi could have one shotted kaguya low dif

[marik]

If not for plot, all team seven have died long time ago

To marik before creating this thread

Please thinking about former situation first about kaguya before jumping to latter situation that is asspull powerup for kakashi

Look at my second sentence.I said if you look at it objectively and here you are getting all opinionated

 

[Ansatsuken]

Look at my second sentence.I said if you look at it objectively and here you are getting all opinionated

but you created this thread for undermaining kaguya plot chance and nerf before the objective thinking kamui plot thread you created here.

It still the same although you said for us to look at kakasi plot objectively but you failed at looking at kaguya plot objectively loong before kamui event. And then as you can see here dimensions war between members occurs which they don't exectly know if kaguya can enter or getting out from kamui freely. Just their believe from not concrete fact being their support to said kaguya can't getting out from kamui becsuse kishi never draw it same as the opposite

 

[Sageof7Path]

I don't doubt it Kakashi has immense heart even if not a one shot in an actual fight he would find a way.

 

[marik]

but you created this thread for undermaining kaguya plot chance and nerf before the objective thinking kamui plot thread you created here.

It still the same although you said for us to look at kakasi plot objectively but you failed at looking at kaguya plot objectively loong before kamui event. And then as you can see here dimensions war between members occurs which they don't exectly know if kaguya can enter or getting out from kamui freely. Just their believe from not concrete fact being their support to said kaguya can't getting out from kamui becsuse kishi never draw it same as the opposite

I used kaguya as an example.you entirely missed the context of my original post.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I used kaguya as an example.you entirely missed the context of my original post.

I have clearly read your opening post and I can't see any sign of example intention there, and if you want to make an example why not using three eye madara instead, but you using under utilize kaguya and then make a conclusion that she can't escape kamui.

why using the strongest character for the example, for what? For you able to get conformation that if kakasi can one shot kaguya neg diff, then it check mate to juubi, madara, naruto and others if they fought with kakashi?

 

[Takos]

Kaguya could travel between dimensions on a whim. I think it might be possible that she could escape from kamuiland.

 

[marik]

but you created this thread for undermaining kaguya plot chance and nerf before the objective thinking kamui plot thread you created here.

It still the same although you said for us to look at kakasi plot objectively but you failed at looking at kaguya plot objectively loong before kamui event. And then as you can see here dimensions war between members occurs which they don't exectly know if kaguya can enter or getting out from kamui freely. Just their believe from not concrete fact being their support to said kaguya can't getting out from kamui becsuse kishi never draw it same as the opposite

It wasn't one of the 6 dimensions BZ said she could travel between and she's never gave reason to actually believe she could.

That's just wrong.if someone doesn't show an ability,they don't have it.it's the same as when people said minato could use shadow clones because he was a hokage.until he showed that feat,it was frowned upon to try and include that as one of his abilities in discussions.

 

[TwistedSmile]

When are people going to learn that such a thing is impossible. Let me tell you, if not for plot, Kishi could make Inari negg diff Maddie and Kaguya at the same time. How does that sound? The plot was created to follow a certain path.

 

[Honord Sage]

Kakashi lost two tittles in one swoop, Kakashi of the Sharigan and Copy Cat Kakashi. Kishi took Him down two pegs.

 

[Organis Machinas]

wouldn't it be all that much fair to say that "kamuiland" is technically kaguya's dimension anyway? she gave birth to chakra and the sage, who gave birth to doujutsu and ninjutsu, correct? by logic, she wouldn't ever have to be there to be "synced" with it. more over, one of her main abilities is to pass through multiple dimensions. for BZ to state the 5 we know of doesn't mean that those are the only places she can go to. for all we know, those five might just be the places that she resides in or reigns over. she was sealed off from earth, but never once have i read or saw anything related to her being dead, because she never was. she was "sealed off" and imo, sealing off its removing someone and barring access to whatever dimension they previously were in. RDS sealed off oro's arms and kurama, both came back. sasuke was pulled into oro's dimension, but he manipulated it and came back. the gold and silver brothers were sealed in the goard, but never once were they stated to be dead, or rather dead again lol. basically, kaguya has access to all thats tangible. obito can be intangible on earth, but clearly tangible in his dimension (as seen when kakashi busted his guts) and if kamuiland is tangible, i have no reason to believe kaguya cant go there on her own or get out on her own.

 

[Ansatsuken]

It wasn't one of the 6 dimensions BZ said she could travel between and she's never gave reason to actually believe she could.

That's just wrong.if someone doesn't show an ability,they don't have it.it's the same as when people said minato could use shadow clones because he was a hokage.until he showed that feat,it was frowned upon to try and include that as one of his abilities in discussions.

How do you know she can't travel or escaped from kamui, is kakashi ever show you that he trapped kaguya there

if never by him from kishi, your rule about never shown any feat that mean the person don't have it can be applied to your case about kamui

it can work both way, you tried hard to defend kamui using that logic to kaguya but I'm also can used that logic to defend kaguya against kamui.

You can't use that logic without a glimpise of situation that shown kamui trapped someone like BZ or kept naruto or sasuke save inside it and kaguya have being show by kishi to not able to access kamui dimension for retrive the person inside it

And not really need to suck kaguya for us to know if she can escape

But it not happen from kishi, that mean you can't make an assumtion about it without any proof

 

[KCMNaruto]

Kaguya could travel between dimensions on a whim. I think it might be possible that she could escape from kamuiland.

^^ This

wouldn't it be all that much fair to say that "kamuiland" is technically kaguya's dimension anyway? she gave birth to chakra and the sage, who gave birth to doujutsu and ninjutsu, correct? by logic, she wouldn't ever have to be there to be "synced" with it. more over, one of her main abilities is to pass through multiple dimensions. for BZ to state the 5 we know of doesn't mean that those are the only places she can go to. for all we know, those five might just be the places that she resides in or reigns over. she was sealed off from earth, but never once have i read or saw anything related to her being dead, because she never was. she was "sealed off" and imo, sealing off its removing someone and barring access to whatever dimension they previously were in. RDS sealed off oro's arms and kurama, both came back. sasuke was pulled into oro's dimension, but he manipulated it and came back. the gold and silver brothers were sealed in the goard, but never once were they stated to be dead, or rather dead again lol. basically, kaguya has access to all thats tangible. obito can be intangible on earth, but clearly tangible in his dimension (as seen when kakashi busted his guts) and if kamuiland is tangible, i have no reason to believe kaguya cant go there on her own or get out on her own.

^^ Exactly, pure epicness

 

[Solo]

If Obito could link his Kamui with her world, why can't she link her T/S Jutsu with Obito's Kamui world?

 

[EPICMenma]

Kaguya Dimension travelling gg.

 

[marik]

wouldn't it be all that much fair to say that "kamuiland" is technically kaguya's dimension anyway? she gave birth to chakra and the sage, who gave birth to doujutsu and ninjutsu, correct? by logic, she wouldn't ever have to be there to be "synced" with it. more over, one of her main abilities is to pass through multiple dimensions. for BZ to state the 5 we know of doesn't mean that those are the only places she can go to. for all we know, those five might just be the places that she resides in or reigns over. she was sealed off from earth, but never once have i read or saw anything related to her being dead, because she never was. she was "sealed off" and imo, sealing off its removing someone and barring access to whatever dimension they previously were in. RDS sealed off oro's arms and kurama, both came back. sasuke was pulled into oro's dimension, but he manipulated it and came back. the gold and silver brothers were sealed in the goard, but never once were they stated to be dead, or rather dead again lol. basically, kaguya has access to all thats tangible. obito can be intangible on earth, but clearly tangible in his dimension (as seen when kakashi busted his guts) and if kamuiland is tangible, i have no reason to believe kaguya cant go there on her own or get out on her own.

1.kurama is chakra.he can't die.

2.Orochimaru doesn't have a dimension.that wasn't a spatial plane,if anything it was closer to genjutsu

3.gold and silver brothers were dead hence why/how they were reanimated.