If Ninshuu is stronger than Ninjutsu, then

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This is all based on Ninshuu being some kind of technique. For all we know, Ninshuu could be Kishi making talk no jutsu official. Madara's point still stand about Chakra.

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According to the Sage, Ninshuu is made to create hope. Ninjutsu create war.

It's still an endless cycle of nothingness. A war between two Ninshuu users would be more deadly than a war between two Ninjutsu users. No matter what, humans will always be at war with each other. The stronger each category become, the more violent each war become. Regardless, if only a limited few can use such a tech. All it takes is two on different sides of the war.

If Ninshuu is a technique of some sort which cause pain, then Infinite Tsukuyomi is still the only way to "true" peace.
 

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I thought Ninshuu was a line of thought, not actual techniques though. Wasn't it a religion that the sage tried to spread, as stated by Obito at the 5 Kage summit?
 

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What naruto did against Obito is somewhat the ideol of ninshuu.

He got support from others to pull the bijuus.
 

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I thought Ninshuu was a line of thought, not actual techniques though. Wasn't it a religion that the sage tried to spread, as stated by Obito at the 5 Kage summit?

What naruto did against Obito is somewhat the ideol of ninshuu.

He got support from others to pull the bijuus.
Well.. Remember, The Sage taught his two sons Ninshuu.

As too what Ninshuu actually is, it's still unknown.
 

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Except for the fact that Ninshuu isn't a means of combat so /:
 

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Well.. Remember, The Sage taught his two sons Ninshuu.

As too what Ninshuu actually is, it's still unknown.

It was explained already.
Its the connection of two persons spiritual energies.

Its ultimate understanding and the pinnacle of true connection of the human spirit
 

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Well.. Remember, The Sage taught his two sons Ninshuu.

As too what Ninshuu actually is, it's still unknown.

He obviously didn't teach Indra ninshuu or else he would have been the successor.
 

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nishuu is not stronger then ninjutsu.
 

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I think ninshuu is more like using chakra to connect with other ppl like how naruto shared chakra to the alliance and shared his feelings through the cloaks and even healed them. It is not just strong ninjutsu.
 

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It was explained already.
Its the connection of two persons spiritual energies.

Its ultimate understanding and the pinnacle of true connection of the human spirit

Pretty much this. Jiraiya and Obito both stated that the Sage traveled the land spreading his religion "Ninshu", and Madara detailed this when he explained more about the sage to Hashirama during the war (the same conversation where we learned of Kaguya).
 

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It was explained already.
Its the connection of two persons spiritual energies.

Its ultimate understanding and the pinnacle of true connection of the human spirit

Pretty much this. Jiraiya and Obito both stated that the Sage traveled the land spreading his religion "Ninshu", and Madara detailed this when he explained more about the sage to Hashirama during the war (the same conversation where we learned of Kaguya).
The Sage didn't understand cooperation until his son, Ashura.



He taught them Ninshuu at a younger age.


Ninshuu couldn't have been based off understanding and connection. That ideology came from Ashura, not The Sage. Ninshuu couldn't have been that.
 

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Well.. Remember, The Sage taught his two sons Ninshuu.

As too what Ninshuu actually is, it's still unknown.

What about the connection through his chakra, people were able to hear his heart and feelings through his kyuubi chakra right?

Also premonition may count as a younger son power too.
 

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What about the connection through his chakra, people were able to hear his heart and feelings through his kyuubi chakra right?

Also premonition may count as a younger son power too.
That wasn't through the Kyuubi Chakra, but Naruto's feeling traveled through Ino's Jutsu who already connected to everyone.

I can't speak for the yonger son, but Naruto feels that if him and Sasuke fight, they'll die together. So it's possible.
 

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Ninshuu isn't a form of combat. That's the gist of what I got from the Sage and Madara as well.
 

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Maybe ninshuu is related to sage mode.
 

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It's the Sage's Teachings. I am sure there is a scan for that in this chapter as well. But fact is, Naruto's blabber-mouth is the continuing Sage's legacy, put out through this tried and redundant, verbose and grandiose bridges of hopes statements from Naruto that always end with Shakespearean style, 'Believe it'! One doesn't need a brain to process this grandness. It's called ...'Corporation and your neighborhood Goodwill'.
 
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