If Natsu and Gildarts...

[Frozenstein]

as far as I remember Natsu didn't use 2nd origin against Sting and Rouge. he was in his normal mode.

about the question:
he already land a good hit on Gildarts on Tenroujima before they disappeared, he could still do that much, but he would most probably still lose. Gildarts always holding back in his fights because his magic is too powerful and deadly.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

as far as I remember Natsu didn't use 2nd origin against Sting and Rouge. he was in his normal mode.

about the question:
he already land a good hit on Gildarts on Tenroujima before they disappeared, he could still do that much, but he would most probably still lose. Gildarts always holding back in his fights because his magic is too powerful and deadly.

both of them using all their magic power...
2nd origin is basically a part of the "container"
its like having more chakra available , he did use second origin , because if he didnt , like before the time skip ; him and gajeel would have been f*cked , its like fighting 2 laxus with another dragon slayer boost( light/shadow drive)
about the question:

 

[Frozenstein]

both of them using all their magic power...
2nd origin is basically a part of the "container"
its like having more chakra available , he did use second origin , because if he didnt , like before the time skip ; him and gajeel would have been f*cked , its like fighting 2 laxus with another dragon slayer boost( light/shadow drive)
about the question:

oh well I mistook it with something else. but still that 2nd origin isn't a big deal either. every top class mage unlocked it...

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

oh well I mistook it with something else. but still that 2nd origin isn't a big deal either. every top class mage unlocked it...

not necessarily , it may have been something only edolas researchers know about , that we are unsure of , because we are unsure as to whether any one outside fairy tail on earthland can use the 2nd origin

 

[Frozenstein]

not necessarily , it may have been something only edolas researchers know about , that we are unsure of , because we are unsure as to whether any one outside fairy tail on earthland can use the 2nd origin

nah Erza had it long ago and even that girl with Jellal knew about it. also she was the one who unlocked it for Natsu and the others.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

nah Erza had it long ago and even that girl with Jellal knew about it. also she was the one who unlocked it for Natsu and the others.

any proof of erza having it before hand? natsu has surpassed her since he got 2nd origin
ultear has links with the magic development labs... its probably classified stuff

 

[Jellal Fernandes]

any proof of erza having it before hand? natsu has surpassed her since he got 2nd origin
ultear has links with the magic development labs... its probably classified stuff

Ultear was like why aren't you having pain? And she's like Idk..And then she says could it be that you may have already unlocked 2 origin? That's how i remember the chapter..

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Ultear was like why aren't you having pain? And she's like Idk..And then she says could it be that you may have already unlocked 2 origin? That's how i remember the chapter..

i dont remember that...

 

[Frozenstein]

i dont remember that...

yep it was mentioned in the manga.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

yep it was mentioned in the manga.

okay then , but now natsu>erza :scorps: yeah i went there

 

[CrimsonFire]

No, Gildarts is still on another league then Natsu is currently, unless Natsu uses "the power friendship" like he did on many other characters that were stronger then him, I can't see it happening lol.

 

[Jellal Fernandes]

No, Gildarts is still on another league then Natsu is currently, unless Natsu uses "the power friendship" like he did on many other characters that were stronger then him, I can't see it happening lol.

I seriously doubt that the power of friendship will work on a Fellow guild member..