If Naruto beat toneri

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Then Hamura's RSM was weaker than 50% of Hagoromo which explains why his descendants are weaker than Hagoromo's and only became the strongest when the clans of Hagoromos descendants were no longer in existence.
 

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Kind of like the difference between Itachi and Sasuke.
 

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Toneri lost due to lack of skill.

Naruto's been fighting his entire life. Toneri sat on the moon, blind for a majority of his life using his puppets as his primary offense.
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If you gave the ability to reduce a chakra monster like Naruto's reserves to 0 instantly and without physical contact. They'd be high tier.
 
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Stopped reading at 50%. Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and both of them inherited half of Kaguya's power, he's miles above Toneri just like Hagoromo's RSM is miles above Naruto's.
 

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Stopped reading at 50%. Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and both of them inherited half of Kaguya's power, he's miles above Toneri just like Hagoromo's RSM is miles above Naruto's.

Naruto + Sasuke = Hagoromo

Naruto > Toneri.
 

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You clearly lack rational thinking and ability to form a reasonable reason
 

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Toneri lost due to lack of skill.

Naruto's been fighting his entire life. Toneri sat on the moon, blind for a majority of his life using his puppets as his primary offense.
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If you gave the ability to reduce a chakra monster like Naruto's reserves to 0 instantly and without physical contact. They'd be high tier.

This and the other posts that follow.
 

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Naruto + Sasuke = Hagoromo

Naruto > Toneri.

Boi you are so wrong. First off Toneri doesnt have Hamuras power or nowhere near. If you think that its no use in tryin to convince you
 

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Boi you are so wrong. First off Toneri doesnt have Hamuras power or nowhere near. If you think that its no use in tryin to convince you

the dude makes it seem like toneri had hamru's eyes and body/chakra dwl.
 

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Naruto + Sasuke = Hagoromo

Naruto > Toneri.

Wrong

Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara

Hagoromo said JJ Madara was close to his level but not on his level. Naruto's DNA is diluted which means his power will still be inferior to Otsutsuki. Furthermore, Toneri never had Hamura's power.
 

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Then Hamura's RSM was weaker than 50% of Hagoromo which explains why his descendants are weaker than Hagoromo's and only became the strongest when the clans of Hagoromos descendants were no longer in existence.

U do kno that tonei is a watered down descendant of hamura right? basically the equivalent of a uchiha in naruto's gen descended from indra with chakra/power watered down to the max compared to indra himself making him a million times weaker than hamura himself who already had rikudo chakra and TSB before tenseigan.
 

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Wrong

Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara

Hagoromo said JJ Madara was close to his level but not on his level. Naruto's DNA is diluted which means his power will still be inferior to Otsutsuki. Furthermore, Toneri never had Hamura's power.

Where is this mentioned
Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara
Scans please.

And what DNA dilution, he's Ashura Transmigrant period. Keep your BS to yourself.
 

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That's really not fair. Naruto has more than one source of power(hagoromo chakra,bijuu, etc) while toneri just stole a pair of byakugans and awakened the tenseigan. No other enhancements.
 

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Boi you are so wrong. First off Toneri doesnt have Hamuras power or nowhere near. If you think that its no use in tryin to convince you
Who's power was the Tenseigan originally? I'll wait :coffee:

Wrong

Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara

Hagoromo said JJ Madara was close to his level but not on his level. Naruto's DNA is diluted which means his power will still be inferior to Otsutsuki. Furthermore, Toneri never had Hamura's power.

If Hagoromo = Hamura then you're saying that Hamura was more powerful than JJ Madara which is false.

Hamura can't be stronger than the strongest Jin bar Hagoromo.

The Tenseigan was Originally Hamura's power so yes, Toneri had Hamura's power or better yet the MAJORITY of it.

Naruto's Gene's being diluted means what? Otsutsuki are Kage level. Meaning there are shinobi that could give them a run for their money.
 

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That's really not fair. Naruto has more than one source of power(hagoromo chakra,bijuu, etc) while toneri just stole a pair of byakugans and awakened the tenseigan. No other enhancements.

RSM isn't the tenseigan tenseigan is doujutsu rsm is not, therefore enhancement. should i go on?
 

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Who's power was the Tenseigan originally? I'll wait :coffee:
So basically original tenseigan of kaguya's son = watered down tenseigan from hamuras far descendant?

Basically any MS = Indras MS too right? along with every byakugan = hamuras and kaguyas right?
 

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Who's power was the Tenseigan originally? I'll wait :coffee:



If Hagoromo = Hamura then you're saying that Hamura was more powerful than JJ Madara which is false.

Hamura can't be stronger than the strongest Jin bar Hagoromo.

The Tenseigan was Originally Hamura's power so yes, Toneri had Hamura's power or better yet the MAJORITY of it.

Naruto's Gene's being diluted means what? Otsutsuki are Kage level. Meaning there are shinobi that could give them a run for their money.

Tenseigan not exclusive to Hamura, its not been stated in DB/Movie.

Another thing Toneri never had Hamura's chakra just Otsutsuki chakra. Thats mean many Otsutsuki inside his bloodline/clan can awaken Tenseigan with requisite that is Byakugan.

Their power can be varies depends on expertise and battle capability..

Unlike Rinnegan case where you need Indra and Ashura chakra/Hago directly.
 
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