If Madara really has Amaterasu.........

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Now that the LEGENDARY battle, Madara vs Hashirama is underway, we can be absolutely sure of Madara's EMS abilites.

He does not have Rinnegan or Mokuton. So if Madara doesn't use Amaterasu in this fight, then he does not have it!!

Hence, Susanoo requires a double Mangekyou, not Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

It shouldn't even be considered, because Sasuke's abilities are Kagutsuchi and Amaterasu, but since Databook nerds refuse to accept the outdated validity of their sacred Naruto bible, then this will do.

Let's see what happens.........
 

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it was said the user needs control on the powers of both the eyes in order to awaken susanoo ..by itachi
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mangekyou sharingans come with susanoo(if you have both eyes), amaterasu, and tsukiyomi.

They also have their own special abilities unique to the eye (Kakashi/Obito have Kamui, but neither have been observed to use Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi)

Madara more than likely has the capability to use Amaterasu. It can easily burn Hashirama's wood techniques. Why do you think Hashirama used his wood techniques on the Kyuubi more than on Madara? Because Kyuubi can't just burn off all of Hashirama's wood.
 

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I dont think Madara has amaterasu. Also, there was a thread saying Itachi's speciality is Genjutsu, Sasuke has amaterasu, and Madara specializes in susanoo, which all makes perfect sense. IF that is so, Sasuke may not get Perfect Susanoo..but I digress.
 

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Sasuke already explained that you don't need them, but let's see yeah...
 

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mangekyou sharingans come with susanoo(if you have both eyes), amaterasu, and tsukiyomi.

They also have their own special abilities unique to the eye (Kakashi/Obito have Kamui, but neither have been observed to use Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi)

Madara more than likely has the capability to use Amaterasu. It can easily burn Hashirama's wood techniques. Why do you think Hashirama used his wood techniques on the Kyuubi more than on Madara? Because Kyuubi can't just burn off all of Hashirama's wood.

This is what I thought. It's pretty much implied that Madara has Amaterasu

So Obito's MS also came with those techniques? :sy:

Why are people so god damn dense!?
 

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So Obito's MS also came with those techniques? :sy:

Why are people so god damn dense!?

Well like I said, for some reason we haven't observed either of them using any techniques other than Kamui.

It might be because Kamui fulfills pretty much the same purpose as Amaterasu with less collateral damage, and Genjutsu is pointless when you can warp them into another dimension

Just because Kamui is OP and fulfills many roles doesn't mean that Kakashi and Obito's eyes do not have Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi.
 

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Sasuke says in manga that you need the double MS to get susanoo it doesn't have to be tsukiyomi and amaterasu specifically....

Could be say Blaze release and kamui or say kamui and tsukiyomi. You just need two individual MS abilities.

If you think that unlocking the MS auto gives you Kamui, Tsukiyomi, KA, amatersu, and blaze release you must be a idiot. Obito says that gaining Susanoo is rare. So if getting the MS is rare as is. Unlocking susanoo is even rarer. gaining 2 MS abilities upon evolving to MS is not a sure thing.
 
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Well like I said, for some reason we haven't observed either of them using any techniques other than Kamui.

It might be because Kamui fulfills pretty much the same purpose as Amaterasu with less collateral damage, and Genjutsu is pointless when you can warp them into another dimension

Just because Kamui is OP and fulfills many roles doesn't mean that Kakashi and Obito's eyes do not have Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi.

Oh my god! So Obito has Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi and Kamui? So much failure........

Can't say it was nice talking to you, goodbye. Have fun on your path to complete delusion.
 

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So Obito's MS also came with those techniques? :sy:

Why are people so god damn dense!?
the only person being dense here is you

here is official description for susanoo:
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"Susano'o is the strength of the tempestuous force that resides only within those who have mastered both of these techniques [Amaterasu & Tsukyuomi]"

we know madara has susanoo so its implied that he also has amaterasu
 

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the only person being dense here is you

here is official description for susanoo:
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"Susano'o is the strength of the tempestuous force that resides only within those who have mastered both of these techniques [Amaterasu & Tsukyuomi]"

we know madara has susanoo so its implied that he also has amaterasu

Like I mentioned in the thread which you either didn't read or couldn't understand. The DB has been proven outdated by Sasuke's powers and his spoken words in the manga. Hence, that little piece is only implied to Itachi.
Right eye: Kagutsuchi
Left eye: Amaterasu

Sasuke^

Right eye: Amaterasu
Left eye: Tsukuyomi

Itachi^

Get it?
 

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this forum is probably the only place where i see people seriously try to put their assumptions over facts lol
 

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This again...DB is much more reliable then anything that could ever come out of your mouth so I'll believe that instead of you.
 

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This again...DB is much more reliable then anything that could ever come out of your mouth so I'll believe that instead of you.

Actually it was from Sasuke's own mouth. And his powers prove it too. You're just terribly in denial. :rolleyes:
 

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If he doesn't have it... Then really... He will lose all of his credits
 
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