If madara is revived stronger than before.

[PredictionGuru]

1. Why do you have an obsession with wanting to give people candy ? ( It's not Halloween, dude. )
2. Madara has Hashirama's Dna, you said that Hashirama would have trouble fighting Madara and himself ( look at your earlier post )
3. Yamato is essentially a copy of Hashirama ( Genetic wise ) because of the experiments Orochimaru performed ( He replaced the childrens DNA with Hashirama's )

2)

????????? What ?????
I'm talking about Madara being able to use Hashirama's techniques
How does Hashirama negate Madara's techniques and his own at the same time?

And you're just cute like that so I want to give you a candy . I don't see a problem in that
or are you against candies?:stfu:

Why is this thread still going....?? -___-

because dim witted idiots like me keep feeding the trolls maybe

 

[King Of Crows]

2)

????????? What ?????
I'm talking about Madara being able to use Hashirama's techniques
How does Hashirama negate Madara's techniques and his own at the same time?

And you're just cute like that so I want to give you a candy . I don't see a problem in that
or are you against candies?:stfu:

1) I was just saying that because someone has Hashirama's DNA ( Like Madara and Yamato, enabling them to be able to use wood style ) it does not mean that they are on Hashirama's level, Madara is not going to be better at wood style than Hashirama by a long shot
2) We don't call them candy here in England

 

[PredictionGuru]

1) I was just saying that because someone has Hashirama's DNA ( Like Madara and Yamato, enabling them to be able to use wood style ) it does not mean that they are on Hashirama's level, Madara is not going to be better at wood style than Hashirama by a long shot

oh my god so that's exactly when madara's own techniques come into play.

we're done here, slowpoke

 

[Draphsin]

because dim witted idiots like me keep feeding the trolls maybe

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[MickNerks]

Hashirama's summoning looked to be bigger than the meteors, and I wouldn't be surprised if it had little difficulty destroying them ( You used a screenshot depicting the summoning in a sitting position, when it was standing it was freaking massive xD )

Madara's meteors seem bigger than Hashirama's technique.

Look at how hashirama's techique (while fully standing) is about the size of two - three mountains if you were to stack them on top of each other.

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Now look at madara's meteor. It dwarfs the mountains greatly. The size of the meteor compaired to the mountains is vast.

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The width is also large compared to the THS

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[Gucci45]

Please it said revived to almost full power meaning hes not really capable of beating ems madara much less edo madara and how is hashi stopping meteor jutsu without onoki :eww:

 

[King Of Crows]

Madara's meteors seem bigger than Hashirama's technique.

Look at how hashirama's techique (while fully standing) is about the size of two - three mountains if you were to stack them on top of each other.

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Now look at madara's meteor. It dwarfs the mountains greatly. The size of the meteor compaired to the mountains is vast.

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The width is also large compared to the THS

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I wouldn't use the mountains as a comparison, look at the 9 tails next to the summoning and keep in mind that one of it's claws is larger than a human and how large the meteor is compared to a person

 

[MickNerks]

I wouldn't use the mountains as a comparison, look at the 9 tails next to the summoning and keep in mind that one of it's claws is larger than a human and how large the meteor is compared to a person

ok..

The rock pillars can hold up to 4-6 shinobi on it as you can see muu and madara fitting comfortably on one of them.

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Now look at how big the meteor is compaired to the rock pillars. It overtakes them all and continues past them to cover mountains as well.

So by your own scale.

One Kyuubi claw = 1 shinobi

and

One Rock Pillar = 4-6 shinobi


so from the page i've given above it already seems as though 1/6 of the bottom panel on that page is >/= the size of the PS kyuubi.


And if you look at the page i posted earlier with the standing THS then you will see it fit between two mountains the meteor encompassed multiple mountains.

 

[TheSages456]

current madara didnt gain anything stronger than perfect susano so he has nothing that would make him stronger than ems madara or hashirama. obtaining techs weaker than your full power isnt a powerup. thats just obtaining more fluff techniques.

 

[Draphsin]

current madara didnt gain anything stronger than perfect susano so he has nothing that would make him stronger than ems madara or hashirama. obtaining techs weaker than your full power isnt a powerup. thats just obtaining more fluff techniques.

And yet kabuto says that madara is better than he was in his prime

And if you try to argue that better =/= stronger then take a look at this.....

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[TheSages456]

And yet kabuto says that madara is better than he was in his prime

And if you try to argue that better =/= stronger then take a look at this.....

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kabuto said that he knew nothing of madaras prime. also prime madara is an uchiha and edo madara is a rikudo. of course that would mean that edo madara is better than prime madara. that doesnt mean that edo madara is stronger than ems madara.

 

[Draphsin]

kabuto said that he knew nothing of madaras prime. also prime madara is an uchiha and edo madara is a rikudo. of course that would mean that edo madara is better than prime madara. that doesnt mean that edo madara is stronger than ems madara.

Kabuto (or rather kishi) wouldnt write things for no reason, he wouldnt make that statement if he knew absolutely nothing of madara's power...

And of course you directly refuse to look at the synonyms i posted for you.....typical

Better: Sense 1
better, break
surpass, outstrip, outmatch, outgo, exceed, outdo, surmount, outperform

All the bolds pertain to strength. If you disagree then you obviously dont know the english language as well as you think you do

 

[King Of Crows]

ok..

The rock pillars can hold up to 4-6 shinobi on it as you can see muu and madara fitting comfortably on one of them.

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Now look at how big the meteor is compaired to the rock pillars. It overtakes them all and continues past them to cover mountains as well.

So by your own scale.

One Kyuubi claw = 1 shinobi

and

One Rock Pillar = 4-6 shinobi


so from the page i've given above it already seems as though 1/6 of the bottom panel on that page is >/= the size of the PS kyuubi.


And if you look at the page i posted earlier with the standing THS then you will see it fit between two mountains the meteor encompassed multiple mountains.

Yeah, there's not going to be an accurate mathematical way of doing this xD, My fault for bringing up scaling !
The basis for my belief is that, the summoning is gargantuan, massive in fact and im not sure about the height of two meteors in comparison to it, though I am leaning more towards that they probably are, in all honesty xD

 

[Strata Uchiha]

I still wanna know how Hashi can stop....

- Meteors falling down from the sky

- Perfect Susanoo' (stablized)

- Did I mention the meteor shower?

 

[immortal sage]

Last time hashi won it wasn't easy but it looked like he still had some power to spare and
Edo madera is strong and has rinnagen but he lost the kyuubi so I think hashi would still win

 

[immortal sage]

I still wanna know how Hashi can stop....

- Meteors falling down from the sky

- Perfect Susanoo' (stablized)

- Did I mention the meteor shower?

If a worn out oonoki can stop one meteor what makes you think hashi can't stop 100 meteors and the kyuubi susanoo is a lot stronger than just susanoo it's common since dude

 

[TheSages456]

Kabuto (or rather kishi) wouldnt write things for no reason, he wouldnt make that statement if he knew absolutely nothing of madara's power...

And of course you directly refuse to look at the synonyms i posted for you.....typical

Better: Sense 1
better, break
surpass, outstrip, outmatch, outgo, exceed, outdo, surmount, outperform

All the bolds pertain to strength. If you disagree then you obviously dont know the english language as well as you think you do

thank you for seeing the light. kishi doesnt write things for no reason.

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accept those scans wholeheartedly then without adding any of your twists to them.


did you just conveniently overlook kabuto saying that he knew nothing of madaras prime? the entire subject was on madaras body and how his body was improved. the topic is never on strength.

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[Draphsin]

thank you for seeing the light. kishi doesnt write things for no reason.

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accept those scans wholeheartedly then without adding any of your twists to them.

Lol I was hoping you would post those scans...

Okay, so if you wanna take everything madara says for fact then why dont you take this for fact as well??
Madara clearly says that if he knew the kage are so weak then he would've taught hashi to rise from the dead. Now tell me, why would madara want to revive the only one who can stop him and his plan?

If madara knew that hashi is the only one who can defeat him, then he wouldnt make such a foolish statement such as wanting his ass handed to him by the person he revives...Point being, if you take one of his statements for fact then you take them all for fact. But thats impossible because they're in direct contradiction to one another, proving them to be exaggerations.

With all of that being said, its obvious that madara was just taunting and undermining the kage, to try and get them to lose their fighting spirit. He wanted to put himself and hashirama on a completely other level than his current opponents.

And finally, Its manga fact that edo madara is better than his prime, while hashi isnt even at full power. So logic dictates that if hashi barely won the fight with EMS madara at full power, then he would lose to edo madara at less than full power.Okay, so if you wanna take everything madara says for fact then why dont you take this for fact as well??

did you just conveniently overlook kabuto saying that he knew nothing of madaras prime? the entire subject was on madaras body and how his body was improved. the topic is never on strength.

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Why would kabuto say he improved madara better than he was before, if he doesnt know what that before even is...?

 

[Draphsin]

Whoops, here's the scan im talking about (computers lagging something crazy...)

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[TheSages456]

Lol I was hoping you would post those scans...

Okay, so if you wanna take everything madara says for fact then why dont you take this for fact as well??
Madara clearly says that if he knew the kage are so weak then he would've taught hashi to rise from the dead. Now tell me, why would madara want to revive the only one who can stop him and his plan?

If madara knew that hashi is the only one who can defeat him, then he wouldnt make such a foolish statement such as wanting his ass handed to him by the person he revives...Point being, if you take one of his statements for fact then you take them all for fact. But thats impossible because they're in direct contradiction to one another, proving them to be exaggerations.

With all of that being said, its obvious that madara was just taunting and undermining the kage, to try and get them to lose their fighting spirit. He wanted to put himself and hashirama on a completely other level than his current opponents.

And finally, Its manga fact that edo madara is better than his prime, while hashi isnt even at full power. So logic dictates that if hashi barely won the fight with EMS madara at full power, then he would lose to edo madara at less than full power.Okay, so if you wanna take everything madara says for fact then why dont you take this for fact as well??
Madara clearly says that if he knew the kage are so weak then he would've taught hashi to rise from the dead. Now tell me, why would madara want to revive the only one who can stop him and his plan?

well i have the viz translation from this thread:

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that saves me the effort of disproving your fallacious claim.

Why would kabuto say he improved madara better than he was before, if he doesnt know what that before even is...?

what are you even asking me? kabuto said that he knew nothing of madaras prime and thats all there is to it.