If Kishi says there's a prime Hiruzen then there is one.

[Sageof7Path]

Just get over it. It's clearly evident that Hiruzen was not in his prime during the oro fight but an old man who couldn't use his best jutsu at the time. A young Hiruzen who surpassed his teachers which is stated was like the main character of his time he was like what Naruto is now.

 

[Hypemaster]

Amen brotha

 

[The Sach]

Just get over it. It's clearly evident that Hiruzen was not in his prime during the oro fight but an old man who couldn't use his best jutsu at the time. A young Hiruzen who surpassed his teachers which is stated was like the main character of his time he was like what Naruto is now.

Provide me some manga scans please..

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

No way in hell he surpassed tobirama as a youngster.

It's all hype, that's why Hype is loving this.​

 

[-Punk-]

No! that's only part of the story & how the characters say/play their roles , you don't have to take everything in the manga as fact , no feats no shit you get over it . #Nothing but old hype & old speeches .

 

[Sageof7Path]

Provide me some manga scans please..

During his fight with Orochimaru the anbu orochimaru and monkey king made it clear that he wasn't in his prime.

 

[Sageof7Path]

No way in hell he surpassed tobirama as a youngster.

It's all hype, that's why Hype is loving this.​

Only Kishimoto knows that Kishi made it it's his to decide and he said he surpassed his teachers therefore Tobirama is lower than Hiruzen.

 

[Sageof7Path]

No! that's only part of the story & how the characters say/play their roles , you don't have to take everything in the manga as fact , no feats no shit you get over it . #Nothing but old hype & old speeches .

The writer of the story said it it's a fact so get over it.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Only Kishimoto knows that Kishi made it it's his to decide and he said he surpassed his teachers therefore Tobirama is lower than Hiruzen.

Your just making up shit, he never said any of that.

I'm a need proof.​

 

[The Sach]

During his fight with Orochimaru the anbu orochimaru and monkey king made it clear that he wasn't in his prime.

I was talking about your statement that Prime Hiruzen surpassed his teachers, and not that he wasn't his prime..:|

 

[-Punk-]

The writer of the story said it it's a fact so get over it.

Get some Nuts!
Nothing but hype​

 

[scorezor]

i still don't understand why you guys reply to such threads lol... is just a waste of time.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Academy Naruto solos Prime Hiruzen. U mad?

 

[Naijakid]

Prime or not....Hashirama>>>>Hiruzen

 

[Nikes]

Tobirama has never been called God of Shinobi.

But regardless of any of the peasant Hokages.. Kisame still takes the cake.

 

[itachiuchiha21]

Tobirama has never been called God of Shinobi.

But regardless of any of the peasant Hokages.. Kisame still takes the cake.

Kisame cant absorb trees
Kisame cant absorb paper bombs
Kisame cant absorb enma
Kisame cant absorb kunais

gg kisame

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Like shinobi2012 just recently said and i quote


"1.If kishi said he did then he did. Our opinions have nothing to do with what he kishi says he knows.


2.Obviously the justu he did not personally posses were the ones that were kekegenkai and secret techniques.


3.Knowing is not the same as being able to perform them.


4.When hiruzen was alive he was at an advanced age and his chakra levels were lower then in his prime meaning any justu that required a certain amount of chakra or stamina he most likely could not use them in his battle against oro.


5.In that battle vs oro he had to stop the first,the second and oro so he resorted to the RDS if the battle was between just him and oro maybe hiruzen wouldn't of had to have to resort to such a justu meaning he could of showcased other justu but,as we all know that is not how it went down so he used what the situation called for.


6.When hiruzen came back obito was using omyoudon meaning justu was useless at that point so why would hiruzen use ninjustu that wouldn't work ?


point being in both situations we see him at a battle there was always official reasons for him not using ninjustu out the ass."

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Tobirama has never been called God of Shinobi.

But regardless of any of the peasant Hokages.. Kisame still takes the cake.

Please kisame sucked out bee and surrounding shinobi's chakra and fled only to be dominated by Might Guy on his home turf no less.

 

[Jcub]

Like shinobi2012 just recently said and i quote


"1.If kishi said he did then he did. Our opinions have nothing to do with what he kishi says he knows.


2.Obviously the justu he did not personally posses were the ones that were kekegenkai and secret techniques.


3.Knowing is not the same as being able to perform them.


4.When hiruzen was alive he was at an advanced age and his chakra levels were lower then in his prime meaning any justu that required a certain amount of chakra or stamina he most likely could not use them in his battle against oro.


5.In that battle vs oro he had to stop the first,the second and oro so he resorted to the RDS if the battle was between just him and oro maybe hiruzen wouldn't of had to have to resort to such a justu meaning he could of showcased other justu but,as we all know that is not how it went down so he used what the situation called for.


6.When hiruzen came back obito was using omyoudon meaning justu was useless at that point so why would hiruzen use ninjustu that wouldn't work ?


point being in both situations we see him at a battle there was always official reasons for him not using ninjustu out the ass."

This^^^ works for me.

 

[Noni]

Thank you my dear friend.