[Spoilers] IF Kishi really plan for Sasuke and Naruto to be equal in the end [Please read first]

Do you agree with possible incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke ?

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  • No

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KCMNaruto

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Hi guys, I would like to share my opinion about incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke IF KISHI decides to keep them equal or at the same level.

Of course Currently Naruto seems to be great step ahead of Sasuke in power... even more if Naruto getting Tailed beast mode combined with Sage mode power up.

However ONLY IF KISHI WILL DECIDE TO KEEP NARUTO AND SASUKE EQUAL, then That my own view of incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke:

Actually: EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Then:

EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4 combined with Sage mode/nature energy = Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Explanation of Sasuke possible new power up: I believe that Juugo will merge completly with Sasuke giving him power over nature... so Sasuke will Combine his Final Sussano with nature energy as Naruto will do with Sage mode and Tailed beast mode.

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Then: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

Last power up: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

so in short power ups in order :

1) EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)
2) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
3) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
4) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
5) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

6) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things + Rinnengan

What do you think guys ?
Do you agree ? Please share your own thoughts on the topic ;)

ALSO JUST TO MENTION I AM BIG FAN OF NARUTO(ALMOST FANBOY) BUT STILL I DON"T HATE SASUKE AND RESPECT HIM ;)

Please not flame wars... I CREATED THIS THREAD TO SHOW THAT Sasuke fanbase and Naruto fanbase don't need to hate each other... instead they could respect each other rival without insulting opposite fanbase
 
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Hi guys, I would like to share my opinion about incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke IF KISHI decides to keep them equal or at the same level.

Of course Currently Naruto seems to be great step ahead of Sasuke in power... even more if Naruto getting Tailed beast mode combined with Sage mode power up.

However ONLY IF KISHI WILL DECIDE TO KEEP NARUTO AND SASUKE EQUAL, then That my own view of incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke:

Actually: EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Then:

EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4 combined with Sage mode/nature energy = Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Explanation of Sasuke possible new power up: I believe that Juugo will merge completly with Sasuke giving him power over nature... so Sasuke will Combine his Final Sussano with nature energy as Naruto will do with Sage mode and Tailed beast mode.

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Then: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

Last power up: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

so in short power ups in order :

1) EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)
2) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
3) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
4) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
5) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

6) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

What do you think guys ?
Do you agree ? Please share your own thoughts on the topic ;)

ALSO JUST TO MENTION I AM BIG FAN OF NARUTO(ALMOST FANBOY) BUT STILL I DON"T HATE SASUKE AND RESPECT HIM ;)

Please not flame wars...

It's a good thing you said "if".

I cannot understand how sauke's version 4 susanoo = to naruto's current BM.

While I can agree that PS=BM. There is no way the above is the case.

Sorry but I am going to have to say I disagree.

The rest of your predictions make sense. But the above does not. Creation of all things is beyond all jutsu and all things including totsuka and yata mirror. so i disagree with that aswell
 
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It's a good thing you said "if".

I cannot understand how sauke's version 4 susanoo = to naruto's current BM.

While I can agree that PS=BM. There is no way the above is the case.

Sorry but I am going to have to say I disagree.

Thanks for your opinion :) I respect it even if you disagree with me ;)
 

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Thanks for your opinion :) I respect it even if you disagree with me ;)

No problem man. You should check my post again and see the additions made
 

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you must had alot of time trying to figure it out

but if still kishi wants to make sasuke the last villain then even if he got all the powers of naruto universe he will still lose to the main character.
 

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he said in an interview that he keeps them on the opposite side of the yin/yang spectrum
What is your feeling toward Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang
bijuu chakra mode=mangekyou sharingan
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and now naruto has bijuu mode doubling the yang and sasuke has ems doubling the yin
 

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Hi , thanks for all good will.

What´s up with this idea of Juugo handing over chakra nature to Sasuke? I can´t think of any reasons but making out of Juugo a sudden self-explanatory master of his "blood curse seal". Un less that happens, there´s no way for me to even come up deducing that.

I do agree with you in the sense both, the emo and orange dude shall remain kind on equal terms. Though it´s known to everybody this is Naruto´s chance to beat on Sasuke (ultimately).

Because besides him being the star of the show, he´s been whipped too many times by Sasuke, though if that does not happen the story will be alrigh too. I mean, with such wide emotion and philosophical transformations on almost every axis of the story, should cover for readers stressing about a final pals´clash.

The current psyche set of characters on focus is "vortexed" enough for me to chew it for another 30 chapters.

oro=pointless villain to goody snake-sage
tobirama=from cynide mooded to instantly (1 panel) noobed
sasuke=psycho to eternal brotherhood of young leaders
hashirama=perfect battle leader to God can only handle 1 super villain at a time (while both super villains get sudden upgrades above any thought possibility)
shikaku=master mind of the universe to "u got long-distance pawned", overun, overkill aka...
obito=yeah well those late 60´s had an impact on a man who lost his "better half of its body :)- in the mid 70´s he had this international man of mistery aura -spy-however ever since he got into akastuki started acting most strangely -goofy-
and ever since meeting somebody as weird as Kabuto- Obito Tobi turned into the black sheep-goat of the UCHIHA

So here I say Madara is the only one remaining with his emotions besides Naruto of the non-fodder pop at the moment.
 
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I don't think Sasuke will be equal to Naruto when the manga finishes. If you are a Sasuke fan and you honestly think this you must be disillusioned.
 

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It looks like its a close division of power sorry but I just don't see sasuke getting sage mode anytime soon he must have a teacher and spend time as a student. I admit naruto can be kinda stupid some times but he is a good student and it took him a while to learn it the frog sage was impressed by how fast he learned it
 

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Why do Sasuke fan boys still think he'll get Yata Mirror and Totsuka?

Perfect Susanno'O is a possibility but how would he suddenly have weapons that weren't even originally apart of Itachi's Susanno'O

Anywayz... Sasuke and Naruto aren't going to be equal by the end of the manga. The will be on the same level, but Naruto will be clearly more powerful. Just like Hashirama and Madara.
 

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It's a good thing you said "if".

I cannot understand how sauke's version 4 susanoo = to naruto's current BM.

While I can agree that PS=BM. There is no way the above is the case.

Sorry but I am going to have to say I disagree.

The rest of your predictions make sense. But the above does not. Creation of all things is beyond all jutsu and all things including totsuka and yata mirror. so i disagree with that aswell

While it doesn't seem likely, it wouldn't be too far fetched for V4 Susano'o to be on or close or on the same level of Bijuu mode Naruto. Notice that we've never seen it gone all out, or seen the upper limits to it's defensive power.
 

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Too much.
I also don't believe Sasuke will have Sage Mode.
As far as I'm concerned, Sage Mode is something related to the Younger son. The whole "body of the Sage" thingy.
And, if I'm not mistaken, the user has to be chosen as well.

Give him another power up. It doesn't necessarily need to be Sage Mode.
 

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smart but they dont have to be equal in power to be equal sasuke is more skillful uses less power for same effct
 

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Hi guys, I would like to share my opinion about incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke IF KISHI decides to keep them equal or at the same level.

Of course Currently Naruto seems to be great step ahead of Sasuke in power... even more if Naruto getting Tailed beast mode combined with Sage mode power up.

However ONLY IF KISHI WILL DECIDE TO KEEP NARUTO AND SASUKE EQUAL, then That my own view of incomming power ups for Naruto and Sasuke:

Actually: EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Then:

EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4 combined with Sage mode/nature energy = Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)

Explanation of Sasuke possible new power up: I believe that Juugo will merge completly with Sasuke giving him power over nature... so Sasuke will Combine his Final Sussano with nature energy as Naruto will do with Sage mode and Tailed beast mode.

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Then: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)

Next: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

Last power up: EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

so in short power ups in order :

1) EMS Sasuke final Sussano v4. = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Half Kurama)
2) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
3) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano = Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
4) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama)
5) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things

6) EMS Sasuke Perfect Sussano infused with Nature energy/Sage mode + Totsuka and Yata Mirror + Rinnengan= Sage Tailed beast mode Naruto (Full Kurama) + Creation of all things + Rinnengan

What do you think guys ?
Do you agree ? Please share your own thoughts on the topic ;)

ALSO JUST TO MENTION I AM BIG FAN OF NARUTO(ALMOST FANBOY) BUT STILL I DON"T HATE SASUKE AND RESPECT HIM ;)

Please not flame wars... I CREATED THIS THREAD TO SHOW THAT Sasuke fanbase and Naruto fanbase don't need to hate each other... instead they could respect each other rival without insulting opposite fanbase

I think the analysis seems to be fair, but there is a fatal flaw in the stated logic...

Sage mode for Sasuke = Way too farfetched.

- Manga states already that Juugo and its clan was not able to have mastery over Nature Energy.
- Manga states already that when user manipulates natural energy and he/her manifestates physical traits that's a sign of imperfect manipulation of Nature energy.
- Sasuke was not able to control his curse mark (a way lesser level than Juugo's ability) to the extent of nullflying his wings, ergo, becoming a Perfect Sage with just a bit of nature energy. At this point I'm supposing that Sasuke has way better chakra control than Naruto (well, that's not true, but even so Sasuke couldn't get rid of these physical traits).

It's obvious that having Juugo's DNA is equivalent to have access to the Myoboku's Oil that makes the user easier to gather natural energy (that's Juugo Clan ability, which source was Ryuuchidou), but that's all. It doesn't give the user a way to have mastery over natural energy control, and the first fact I stated is all the proof I need to validate this point.

These two facts and the last statement lends me to conclude that if Sasuke gets all Juugo's DNA, he will be able to gather natural energy easier, but he will never be able to achieve the Perfect Sage Mode.

So that's it. I agree with everything else (Rinnegan is still farfetched since Sasuke would need Senju DNA for that, this is, another lend power... damn Kishimoto and his sugar daddies u_u).
 

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Too long to read but I agree with whatever you say
 

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Most ppl assumed naruto and sasuke were meant to be equal kishi didn't say this. fans needs to get over this.
Also he said was that get powers at the same time roughly not that the powerup were the same power.

sorry sasuke fans it was always the case, we tried to tell you.

Look at madara even he the greatest of the uchiha needed to use the fox to fight hasihrama, and now he even has some of hasihrama's dna, the proofs in the pudding uchiha fans.

that's not to say sasuke wont be doing anything to help out its just the juubi is unquie enemy to fight, its a fight of your life type of scenario.
 

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No, they will not be equal. Whats going to happen is, eventually Sasuke will admit and en knowledge Naruto superiority, Kinda how vegeta did in the buu series. Iwould have thought people knew this by now, there is not a manga out there, where in the end the main character is on the same level as anyone else, in fact they are above. If people don't like to admit this by now, Sasuke is a sub character and also Naruto Rival and best friend who has always top Naruto in everything and anything.

If you think i am bsing, the facts are there in the manga. Another example would be goku getting ss 3 and vegeta couldn't, then he got ssj4 and vegeta had to use a machine to go to that level, but we all knew goku was suppressor.
what i am saying here is, They will fight and it will seem like its equal in a sense, maybe Sasuke will get alittle stronger base on what orochimaru gives him, or maybe (thinking outside of the box) him and that 10 tail obito has will become one and cooperate with each other. So it will be a 10tail Sasuke vs a full powered Kurama-Naruto in the final battle. And we all know Naruto will be victorious.

At the end of this war, these tail beast need a host, because i highly doubt they will be allowed to run free, unless Naruto keeps his promises.
 
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No, they will not be equal. Whats going to happen is, eventually Sasuke will admit and en knowledge Naruto superiority, Kinda how vegeta did in the buu series. Iwould have thought people knew this by now, there is not a manga out there, where in the end the main character is on the same level as anyone else, in fact they are above. If people don't like to admit this by now, Sasuke is a sub character and also Naruto Rival and best friend who has always top Naruto in everything and anything.

If you think i am bsing, the facts are there in the manga. Another example would be goku getting ss 3 and vegeta couldn't, then he got ssj4 and vegeta had to use a machine to go to that level, but we all knew goku was suppressor.
what i am saying here is, They will fight and it will seem like its equal in a sense, maybe Sasuke will get alittle stronger base on what orochimaru gives him, or maybe (thinking outside of the box) him and that 10 tail obito has will become one and cooperate with each other. So it will be a 10tail Sasuke vs a full powered Kurama-Naruto in the final battle. And we all know Naruto will be victorious.

At the end of this war, these tail beast need a host, because i highly doubt they will be allowed to run free, unless Naruto keeps his promises.

I thought the same thing, Sasukes probably gonna take the ten tails, and that would match him up with naruto
 
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