If Itachi was limted to Amatearsu and base skills

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When CM Sasuke/Hebi Sasuke was gone he only relied more and more on dojutsu. Hiss variability was gone which was kind of a downfall in the character's skills. His Raiton techs were gone and where was Enton, it is unique to his MS. Literally nothing except for some CQC with his sword and the Amterasu at the end.

Nerfed to the max, half of Sasuke's time went to the healing guys of the team who had to fix him up.

ikr lol, and fapboys always come up with the excuse that it was 4 on 1 that evened it out.
 

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Not really itachi with base skills and ama would still defeat all of them.
 

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ikr lol, and fapboys always come up with the excuse that it was 4 on 1 that evened it out.

Nah Bee at that time was on a league of his own. He was a PJ and facing the Bijuu was difficult at that time no matter how you slice it. 4 vs 1 more like Suigetsu, Karin and Jugo were support characters. Sharingan genjutsu isn't enough to hold a PJ down so no based off Sasuke's potential and variability in the other fights, it wsn't supposed to be fair at all.

If the other 3 does minimal damage to the opponent then it isn't a fair fight when they were getting wrecked until Sasuke stepped in.

I believe Kishi wanted to rush this one to move on the the Naruto vs Pain fight.
 

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The only way other people can defeat him is if you restrict him. :lmao:

His base skills would give the Hokage a good fight tbh. His Shuriken ninjutsu is so good that he hit the King of Hell with the Rinnegan with his Shuriken.

That's the same thing I say every time I c Edo tensi restricted for orochimaru or kabuto
 

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so... ?
Genjutsu, Shuriken , Taijutsu, Ninjutsu ... Sacred weapons .. wtf do u want more?

I assumed "base skills" meant basically taijutsu alone.

Are we really only restricting Susano'o and Tsukuyomi...?
 

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That's the same thing I say every time I c Edo tensi restricted for orochimaru or kabuto

ET is an OP forbidden jutsu and I don't know about you but when I see these restrictions in VS battles, I get kind of annoyed. Why not debate with a character's full potential?:sdo3:
 

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When CM Sasuke/Hebi Sasuke was gone he only relied more and more on dojutsu. Hiss variability was gone which was kind of a downfall in the character's skills. His Raiton techs were gone and where was Enton, it is unique to his MS. Literally nothing except for some CQC with his sword and the Amterasu at the end.

Nerfed to the max, half of Sasuke's time went to the healing guys of the team who had to fix him up.

sasuke traded a powerup for a powerup...there was no nerf
 

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sasuke traded a powerup for a powerup...there was no nerf

Sasuke lost everything in that fight that he previously had before. Raiton techs like Chidori Senbon, Kirin, Chidori Nagashi, Shuriken ninjutsu, CM, etc.. and his dojutsu wasn't used at all till the end. He was nerfed 3/4 through the fight before his new ocular powers began to bloom.
 

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Tsunade?

She has no way of getting rid of the flames and isn't fast enough to avoid them...
 

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ET is an OP forbidden jutsu and I don't know about you but when I see these restrictions in VS battles, I get kind of annoyed. Why not debate with a character's full potential?:sdo3:

Same even if it's a forbidden jutsu it's apart of his arsneal it's only forbidden because u killed ppl to revive ppl


By that logic attaining MS should be foribbiden as a lot of them were attained through a death of someone else (for Madara ems)
 

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Same even if it's a forbidden jutsu it's apart of his arsenal it's only forbidden because u killed people to revive people.


By that logic attaining MS should be forbidden as a lot of them were attained through a death of someone else (for Madara ems)

The fact that OP adds Amaterasu and forgets the rest of his MS dojutsu abilities is quite disturbing. Why create a thread just to waste other people's time to say something you want other people to say?

Yes Forbidden jutsus are part of their arsenals. Lee's Hidden Lotus was said to be forbidden but that doesn't mean it should be excluded in the debate. Actually people will not exclude these forbidden Taijutsus for some reason, it is just ET.
 

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When CM Sasuke/Hebi Sasuke was gone he only relied more and more on dojutsu. Hiss variability was gone which was kind of a downfall in the character's skills. His Raiton techs were gone and where was Enton, it is unique to his MS. Literally nothing except for some CQC with his sword and the Amterasu at the end.

Nerfed to the max, half of Sasuke's time went to the healing guys of the team who had to fix him up.

After his battle against Itachi he focused more so on Dojutsu because he was honing his new abilities. Due to it's negative side effects, the Mangekyo isn't something that one can spend time training with, so Sasuke developed it through battle. And he hardly had time to train with the EMS and none at all for the Tomoe Rinnegan due to all the important events that were happening when he first acquired them.

He did some brief training with the EMS before heading out to the war. End of chapter 553, literally, as soon as he fully recovered he began testing out his new power. Activating Susano'o, forming an Enton Arrow and launching it at White Zetsu.

"Shall we test it outside"

The next time we see him was at the beginning of chapter 567 when he finished his brief training and headed out to the war. Chapter 574, he ran into a group of White Zetsu. His dialgue is important there, clearly he aiming to hone his new power through battle, which he continuously did to the end of the War.

After the War is where he finally had time to fully master all his abilities/skills.

sasuke traded a powerup for a powerup...there was no nerf

Sasuke had the Curse Mark for years which he mastered and incorporated into his fighting style. He had zero experience with the MS when he fought Bee

Oh really? Where's susanoo at? Where's enton? He used amaterasu 1 ****ing time at the end, the rest of the fight he stuck with 3T. That's a nerf


This guys logic is ridiculous.



Sasuke lost everything in that fight that he previously had before. Raiton techs like Chidori Senbon, Kirin, Chidori Nagashi, Shuriken ninjutsu, CM, etc.. and his dojutsu wasn't used at all till the end. He was nerfed 3/4 through the fight before his new ocular powers began to bloom.


He didn't lose any of those aside from the CM. But it's funny that you mentioned them. All those abilities would have been very effective against Naruto.


If Sasuke wasn't restricted from ulitilizing his abilities and skills to his full advantage, such as having his sword which he had/used in nearly every one of his battles since the start of Part 2 over the course of hundreds of chapters/several years then conveniently it lost it before fighting Naruto, then Naruto would be dead.

Can't have them match each other in Taijutsu for a whole day if Sasuke has a Sword to easily end things quickly.

- Against Itachi Sasuke summoned and threw a massive amount of Shuriken within seconds.This and the next few pages.





Against Naruto he only summoned and threw 3 Shuriken literally as he was falling to the ground, which each took out an entire clone. Then he got up, activated Chidori and charged at what he thought was the real Naruto. The clone stopped his arm and he was punched by the real Naruto.

This/the next page



Instead of charging at him with Chidori, he could have easily summoned more shuriken and safely threw them from a distance. That's efficient. He would conserve chakra and physical energy, and wouldn't have to worry about being hit himself.

- Aside from not using Genjutsu, Chibaku Tensei, and Bansho Tenin on Naruto, even though he easily did so against all the Bijuu.

There's several other abilities that he didn't use even though they would have been very effective.

- During the Final Rasengan and Chidori clash, instead of using Enton Chidori, he could have extended his Chidori as he and Naruto were charging towards each other, then slash him.



In his battle against Bee, from a distance and with little reaction time, he easily extended Chidori and it sliced through the Hachibi's tentacle like butter. This/the next page.



- Or he could have used Chidori Spear or Senbon to hit Naruto from a distance.



There was no need to get in close range with Enton Chidori. But Kishimoto likes his Rasengan and Chidori clashes. Can't end without it.

If he's going to attack from close up then Chidori Stream is best suited for that. It's both an attack and defense.

 
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