If Itachi hadn't died young, he would have became weaker, not stronger.

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First if all, with this thread, I mean no offense to any Itachi fans. I respect and admire all his sacrifices and prowess in ninja arts.

But, I just want to point out here, that he is not invincible like many fanboys make him out to be. I wish to clear the misconception like 'hadn't Itachi died young, he would have surpassed all characters in the anime' or that sort of stuff.

Now, to start off my arguments, I first point out to the fact that almost all of his one-hit ko moves came from his MS. By the time he fought Sasuke, his eyesight was almost gone. I know tha t many of the guys out there will say that Itachi's eyesight brimming in the edge of blindness was due to his illness. But, you and I know that MS goes blind eventually, afterall, everyone saw how quickly Sasuke went blind.

And, so, assuming Itachi didn't die against Sasuke, he would have ended up losing MS, and he made too many enemies for his own good, so soon enough he would have been killed off by one of his god knows how much enemies.

And, another thing to remember is that when his eye closes due to overuse of MS, his eyes closes off permenantly, he will lose his eyesight along with his MS.

I'm not saying that Itachi without MS = 0 or anything, because I know that he wasn't acknowledged as a genius with no parallel for nothing.

But, Itachi without MS, is only half as strong as Itachi with MS. Itachi without eyesight and MS jutsus is just dead meat.

And, another thing to remember is that when his eye closes due to overuse of MS, his eyes closes off permenantly, he will lose his eyesight along with his MS.

Then, another point many Itachi fanboys use to point out that he was invincible was that with Susanoo along with yata mirror and totsuka blade made him invincible. - While this maybe correct in a certain sense, this so-called 'invincibility' is short-lived. He can't maintain susanoo forever without going blind, and I sure as hell can't imagine him swinging around totsuka blade with one hand and yata mirror in another.

Also, it is worth pointing out that if he was 'invincible' as many put it,then why didn't he just obliterate all dangers to konoha including the akatsuki, or just root out Obito since he was aware of Obito's role in the entire thing.

^^ From the above facts that I've listed, it is easy to draw up the conclusion that had Itachi lived after his fight with Sasuke, he would n't have gotten any bit stronger, if anything, he'd have eventually became weaker. The only possible way for him to actually have become stronger assuming he didn't die young was for him to take Sasuke's MS, which would have destroyed everything he stood for until that point. (That ofcourse is if Sasuke could gain MS without Itachi having to die in the first place.)

PS: I know that I'll be flamed to no end for this thread, and I'm ready to hear that out. But, I do hope that fanboys who feel frustrated by this thread won't try to make comments like 'still better than Minato' or 'he was the strongest from the start' and turn this into some kind if Itachi/Minato or Itachi solo SO6P thread.
 
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I am an itachi fanboy and you are completely right madara was nothing without sight when he overused the ms and so would itachi sad but true! And about the part with the sword of tosuka itachi didn't swing the sword it was susanoo that did it for him!
 

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I am an itachi fanboy and you are completely right madara was nothing without sight when he overused the ms and so would itachi sad but true! And about the part with the sword of tosuka itachi didn't swing the sword it was susanoo that did it for him!
I actually meant when he runs out of chakra to maintain susanoo.
 

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Susano'o for 10 minutes, then he dies.
A couple of Amaterasu's and he goes completely blind.

Great Techs, but you need EMS to use them properly.
 

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I agree with you that if Itachi didn't die then he would become weaker because of the illness he has.
The only way he can become stronger is to be cured of the illness he had.
 

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Itachi could have lived if his life went differently....
Had he not killed the uchiha clan, he could have probably gotten Tsunade to heal him, And he also could have gotten EMS from his father's eyes
 

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First if all, with this thread, I mean no offense to any Itachi fans. I respect and admire all his sacrifices and prowess in ninja arts.

But, I just want to point out here, that he is not invincible like many fanboys make him out to be. I wish to clear the misconception like 'hadn't Itachi died young, he would have surpassed all characters in the anime' or that sort of stuff.

Now, to start off my arguments, I first point out to the fact that almost all of his one-hit ko moves came from his MS. By the time he fought Sasuke, his eyesight was almost gone. I know tha t many of the guys out there will say that Itachi's eyesight brimming in the edge of blindness was due to his illness. But, you and I know that MS goes blind eventually, afterall, everyone saw how quickly Sasuke went blind.

And, so, assuming Itachi didn't die against Sasuke, he would have ended up losing MS, and he made too many enemies for his own good, so soon enough he would have been killed off by one of his god knows how much enemies.

And, another thing to remember is that when his eye closes due to overuse of MS, his eyes closes off permenantly, he will lose his eyesight along with his MS.

I'm not saying that Itachi without MS = 0 or anything, because I know that he wasn't acknowledged as a genius with no parallel for nothing.

But, Itachi without MS, is only half as strong as Itachi with MS. Itachi without eyesight and MS jutsus is just dead meat.

And, another thing to remember is that when his eye closes due to overuse of MS, his eyes closes off permenantly, he will lose his eyesight along with his MS.

Then, another point many Itachi fanboys use to point out that he was invincible was that with Susanoo along with yata mirror and totsuka blade made him invincible. - While this maybe correct in a certain sense, this so-called 'invincibility' is short-lived. He can't maintain susanoo forever without going blind, and I sure as hell can't imagine him swinging around totsuka blade with one hand and yata mirror in another.

Also, it is worth pointing out that if he was 'invincible' as many put it,then why didn't he just obliterate all dangers to konoha including the akatsuki, or just root out Obito since he was aware of Obito's role in the entire thing.

^^ From the above facts that I've listed, it is easy to draw up the conclusion that had Itachi lived after his fight with Sasuke, he would n't have gotten any bit stronger, if anything, he'd have eventually became weaker. The only possible way for him to actually have become stronger assuming he didn't die young was for him to take Sasuke's MS, which would have destroyed everything he stood for until that point. (That ofcourse is if Sasuke could gain MS without Itachi having to die in the first place.)

PS: I know that I'll be flamed to no end for this thread, and I'm ready to hear that out. But, I do hope that fanboys who feel frustrated by this thread won't try to make comments like 'still better than Minato' or 'he was the strongest from the start' and turn this into some kind if Itachi/Minato or Itachi solo SO6P thread.
I feel you dude, I 100% agree with your thread.
 

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Yeah its sad but true... But still he would've been stronger if he stayed with leaf and kept training. He never reached his full potential and If he did he might've not relied as much on his MS as he did now... It sucks he didn't show much jutsu in his base form.
 

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I would agree to that, Itachi didn't have too much of a chance to get stronger than how strong he was now. The Blindness, the sickness, I mean come, if he didn't have the sickness, then the only way to save him was give him Sasuke's eyes, but he wasn't gonna take sasuke's eyes.

Itachi is still awesome, A lot like Fenix (starcraft), Soap (CoD: MW), and Johnson (Halo).
A badass, but a dead badass.
 

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yes his illness would have killed him but no he wouldnt have gone blind he would have taken sasuke eyes and then acheive EMS

now if he was evil he would have survived or instructed obito or someone esle to revive him with edo tensei then find naruto use shisui eye and wallaaahh u have an edo Ems Itachi LOL
 

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ms are not real techniques they are just a demo for ems it forces the strongest of siblings to fight over ems so basically its obvious that itachi wouldve become weaker thats why he said with a rape face ima take your eyes sasuke cuz thats the only way he couldve gotten stronger he pulls the final illusion telling sasuke he let him live just to take his eyes at some point. so yes your right but its just very obvious imo
 
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