If Itachi had EMS

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Two entirely different scenarios. He could only do so due to the mix of Kurama, Indra, and Ashura's chakra in Madara's severed half. So unless this is replicated for Itachi, then he's not meeting Hagoromo if he is not a transmigrant of Indra or Ashura.

Now your grasping for thin air here.

 

[maniaoqan]

Sasuke was compatible with Hagoromo's power up because he possessed Hagoromo's yin chakra though being a reincarnation of Indra.
I don't think it would've worked with Itachi since he doesn't had Indra's chakra.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Not really, what allows one to awaken the rinnegan or RSM is hogoromo's chakra. If hogoromo wanted to he could make anyone awaken the rinnegan. It's just easier for ashura and indra transmigrants because they already have half of what is necessary.

No that is incorrect and correct at the same time. Hagoromo's chakra helped them activate, however it was a power from within or bloomed which is in the manga, and the databook stats it was a "Gift." What we know is that these powers were accessible because both Naruto/Sasuke were transmigrantes of Ashura/Indra.

Hence why Naruto's Bijuu avatar looked exactly like Ashura's

Hence why Sasuke's PS looked exactly like Indra's

Hagoromo's chakra would not have evolved a normal Sharingan/3-T/Mangekyo Sharingan into the Rinnegan, it's actually impossible for chakra to do that alone unless it is Ashura's. Not to mention the time it would take for it to appear.

Sasuke had the requirements for it, Hagoromo unlocked the hidden transmigrate power within him, and boom. Power up.

ANDDDDDDDDDDD

Sasuke was compatible with Hagoromo's power up because he possessed Hagoromo's yin chakra though being a reincarnation of Indra.
I don't think it would've worked with Itachi since he doesn't had Indra's chakra.

A shortened version of what I wanted to say.

 

[SayWhat21]

i don't think so because he isn't indra's reincarnation

 

[Narutohokage324]

Now your grasping for thin air here.
thin air
thin air

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[Gerkak]

No that is incorrect and correct at the same time. Hagoromo's chakra helped them activate, however it was a power from within or bloomed which is in the manga, and the databook stats it was a "Gift." What we know is that these powers were accessible because both Naruto/Sasuke were transmigrantes of Ashura/Indra.

Hence why Naruto's Bijuu avatar looked exactly like Ashura's

Hence why Sasuke's PS looked exactly like Indra's

Hagoromo's chakra would not have evolved a normal Sharingan/3-T/Mangekyo Sharingan into the Rinnegan, it's actually impossible for chakra to do that alone unless it is Ashura's. Not to mention the time it would take for it to appear.

Sasuke had the requirements for it, Hagoromo unlocked the hidden transmigrate power within him, and boom. Power up.

Ashura and indra got their chakra from hogoromo if the formula for the rinnegan = ashura chakra + indra chakra which is the same as hogoromo's chakra then technically anyone who gains hogoromo's chakra is equivalent to madara who previously had indra's chakra and mixed it with ashura's from hashirama and awakened hogoromo's chakra thus evolving his eyes to the rinnegan.

Their's no way to say for sure that if itachi awakened PS his wouldn't look like indra's given that his v4 susano is almost identical to MS sasuke's (indra transmigrant) version 4 susanoo.

Naruto's avatar looking like ashura's means nothing since minato's looks the same and he isn't an ashura transmigrant.

Time isn't an issue if hogoromo gives itachi the power directly like he did sasuke.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

I'm starting to think that in Indra's case two transmigrants are needed so that one of them can gain EMS...

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Now your grasping for thin air here.

Alrighty then.

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[Narutohokage324]

Ashura and indra got their chakra from hogoromo if the formula for the rinnegan = ashura chakra + indra chakra which is the same as hogoromo's chakra then technically anyone who gains hogoromo's chakra is equivalent to madara who previously had indra's chakra and mixed it with ashura's from hashirama and awakened hogoromo's chakra thus evolving his eyes to the rinnegan.

Their's no way to say for sure that if itachi awakened PS his wouldn't look like indra's given that his v4 susano is almost identical to MS sasuke's (indra transmigrant) version 4 susanoo.

Naruto's avatar looking like ashura's means nothing since minato's looks the same and he isn't an ashura transmigrant.

Time isn't an issue if hogoromo gives itachi the power directly like he did sasuke.

No you're wrong. Hagoromo got his power from being the host of the Juubi.

Hence why Naruto got the body of the Sage
and why Sasuke got the eye of a God.

Do you know where these originate from? Juubi (aka Shinju).

That is why when Hagoromo had two sons, one inherited the powerful eyes (Shinju eye, Sharringan) and one inherited the powerful body (Shinju body). Though these powers were their own because of their fathers, but to say that it is Hagoromo's chakra is false. It is their own chakra, just as Naruto has his own chakra. Unless you want to say they are transmigrates of Hagoromo xD.

Yes there is:
Kakashi/Obito's Perfect Susano'o:

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Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o

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Indra's Perfect Susano'o

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You can obviously tell the differences in the faces between Kakashi's and Sasuke's + Indra's. They are almost exactly alike while Kakashi's whole design is unique. Not really much to say here

No that is stupid.
Naruto's Bijuu Avatar:

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Here it is closer:

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Ashura's Avatar

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Minato's avatar could never look like this.

 

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[Gerkak]

No you're wrong. Hagoromo got his power from being the host of the Shinju.

Hence why Naruto got the body of the Sage
and why Sasuke got the eye of a God.

Do you know where these originate from? Juubi (aka Shinju).

That is why when Hagoromo had two sons, one inherited the powerful eyes (Shinju eye, Sharringan) and one inherited the powerful body (Shinju body). Though these powers were they're own because of their fathers, but to say that it is Hagoromo's chakra is false. It is their own chakra, just as Naruto has his own chakra. Unless you want to say they are transmigrates of Hagoromo xD.

Yes there is:
Kakashi/Obito's Perfect Susano'o:

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Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o

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Indra's Perfect Susano'o

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You can obviously tell the differences in the faces between Kakashi's and Sasuke's + Indra's. They are almost exactly alike while Kakashi's whole design is unique. Not really much to say here

No that is stupid.
Naruto's Bijuu Avatar:

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Here it is closer:

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Ashura's Avatar

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Naruto's avatar looking like ashura's means nothing since minato's looks the same and he isn't an ashura transmigrant.

I know hogoromo got his chakra from the shinju through kaguya. But awakening the rinnegan is only possible by getting his chakra.

Yes indra has his own chakra and so does ashura but a combination of their chakra awakens his own allowing the rinnegan to appear. This means that they carry half of hogoromo's chakra within them in addition to their own natural chakra. Otherwise awakening the rinnegan by combining their chakra won't make sense.

While I can accept the similarities between indra and sasuke's PS differences are still present, such as indra's susanoo lacking a hole at the chin area where as both sasuke's and kakashi's posses that. But I agree they do look more alike than kakashi's PS does to either of them.

Naruto's bijuu avatar is basically a fusion with two other avatars it's other two faces are not that of shukaku or gyuuki's as seen clearly

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. The other faces are that of kurama.

You can't deny that minato's avatar looks exactly like naruto's and if he were to combine three avatars together, his would look exactly like naruto's did during the vote fight, even more so than ashura's.

Besides ashura's avatar resembles no bijuu at all if anything it reminds me of a garuda.

 

[HENI]

Hagoromo will only give power to transmigrants, not fodders. Lol

 

[JStar King]

Him having EMS would be dumb due to his illness. He'll die and Sasuke would take his eyes back.

 

[JStar King]

Hagoromo will only give power to transmigrants, not fodders. Lol

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[Narutohokage324]

I know hogoromo got his chakra from the shinju through kaguya. But awakening the rinnegan is only possible by getting his chakra.

Yes indra has his own chakra and so does ashura but a combination of their chakra awakens his own allowing the rinnegan to appear. This means that they carry half of hogoromo's chakra within them in addition to their own natural chakra. Otherwise awakening the rinnegan by combining their chakra won't make sense.

While I can accept the similarities between indra and sasuke's PS differences are still present, such as indra's susanoo lacking a hole at the chin area where as both sasuke's and kakashi's posses that. But I agree they do look more alike than kakashi's PS does to either of them.

Naruto's bijuu avatar is basically a fusion with two other avatars it's other two faces are not that of shukaku or gyuuki's as seen clearly

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. The other faces are that of kurama.

You can't deny that minato's avatar looks exactly like naruto's and if he were to combine three avatars together, his would look exactly like naruto's did during the vote fight, even more so than ashura's.

Besides ashura's avatar resembles no bijuu at all if anything it reminds me of a garuda.

No that is a flaw. The Rinnegan is activated by mixing both Indra and Ashura's chakra together. There is no information that states Hagoromo's chakra alone activates the Rinnegan.

Those are two separate things all together.

Hagoromo's chakra might be the progenitor of both Ashura and Indra, but you must realize that Hagoromo never activated the Rinnegan by being himself. He only once did it when he became the Juubi, which would make sense because the Byakugan ran in his bloodline (Otutsuki or however it's spelled).

Sage Body + Powerful Eyes = Rinnegan, nothing more nothing less.

They only look alike because Sasuke is the current transmigrate of Indra.

I did not that edit that picture, I brought the zoomed in picture to show you that his Bijuu Avatar + Sage chakra = 3 headed Kurama + more arms = Ashura, even in the religion.

Yes I can deny that Minato's avatar looks like Naruto's. It only looks like Naruto's because of Kurama. However Kurama's avatar alone does not bring more arms, and three heads. That alone was Ashura's chakra, aka Hagoromo power from within, the RSM. Naruto could never bring that power out alone in KCM, BM, etc,. That should also tell you why Minato could never do the same

Well that's because Ashura was never mentioned to be a Jinchuriki. That power alone comes from the Senjutsu of the Juubi, that alone brought out his form. Ashura had to train hard to get to that level, stated many times in the manga that he was nothing compared to Indra until he grew with friendship blah blah protecting others.

Kurama's avatar bare similar designs to his avatar with the black circles, but as you can tell the faces are not the same. Only until Naruto got RSM was he able to bring out that form.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Of course Itachi had a better head on his shoulders alongside his adoration by many ninja. The sage would only have to glance at Itachi to know he was more than capable of ending the brothers feuds.

Totsuka blitz the brother's souls gg

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Now your grasping for thin air here.

It was actually stated to be the reason he appeared

 

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If Itachi took Sasuke's eyes (as he easily could have). And the same line of events happened to Itachi instead of happening to Sasuke, would Hagoromo then have given him the Rinnegan and seal, like he did with Sasuke?

Rinnegan was awakened due to the fact he acquired both reincarnations chakra

Though Hagoromo would've handed him the seal, but it's not going to be effective if Itachi cannot awaken Rinnegan .​

 

[Light up the Darkness]

Itachi with EMS would still be tiers below MS Obito. Since Obito has Senju cells he is beyond any EMS user.
1MS Obito = Alive Blind SM Madara

totally agree

AIDStachi is overrated

and since his biggest accomplishment was reaching MS Level ( thanks to shisui)

he will always be below Obito , Sasuke , Madara

and even if he has the MS he still below MS Obito as you said which is true

he has the lowest stamina amoung all the Uchiha

weak and Overrated​

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

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