If it was Sasuke against Toneri...

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Sasuke is different from Naruto. As was shown multiple times throughout the manga, he doesn't like to screw around when actual threats are involved, so it's safe to say he would be done much faster with the fight, and that's without me counting one-shot moves like Ameno, Rinnegan Genjutsu, or CT.

The only reason Naruto took so long was because there just had to be a an actual movie.

Restrict Rinnegan like they restricted RSM and it would be a fun match up

Not really. Naruto was shown using elements from RSM, like flying, without actually going into that mode. That only speaks of his mastery over his own powers in the two years after The Last, something that would logically apply to Sasuke as well, especially given how his base Chidori was shown to be able to evaporate a meteor.

Sasuke would wreck him either way, is what I'm saying.
 
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Lmao RSM wasn't restricted. Maybe chakra overall but he was just fighting all out vs the rabbit goddess so his chakra amount wasn't suppose to be high therefore it's not a restriction.

Rinnegan was restricted sasuke said he'd gotten use to the rinne but only used 3 paths out of 6 paths that have more than 6 abilities. Kurama clearly stated naruto and kurama we're luckysasuke hadnt mastered Preta path. That's just one path if just one path wards that much fear by kurama to actually say they are LUCKY then all six wreck. Same thing done to Godara with the rinne.

RSM gains instant speed, chakra, stamina reflexes, sensing, strength...
Yeah it was. I don't even know what you wrote, honestly. Naruto beat him in base with a single punch. RSM would end it in a single blitz.

Sasuke is different from Naruto. As was shown multiple times throughout the manga, he doesn't like to screw around when actual threats are involved, so it's safe to say he would be done much faster with the fight, and that's without me counting one-shot moves like Ameno, Rinnegan Genjutsu, or CT.



Not really. Naruto was shown using elements from RSM, like flying, without actually going into that mode. That only speaks of his mastery over his own powers in the two years after The Last, something that would logically apply to Sasuke as well, especially given how his base Chidori was shown to be able to evaporate a meteor.

Sasuke would wreck him either way, is what I'm saying.
I agree but EMS Sasuke with PS/Rinnegan restricted would still be an awful good match-up longer than 1 second with Amen blitz. At least two to three seconds if Sasuke is feeling like it
 

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RSM Naruto (Ashura Avatar)>RSM Naruto>Rinnegan Sasuke (No Bijuu)>BSM Naruto (The Last)>Toneri

Sasuke wins Mid Difficulty.

All wrong

Rinne bijuu sasuke < ashura avatar RSM naruto < rinne sasuke = RSM naruto < full bm The Last naruto < Toneri


Bijuu susano destroyed one of the four avatars there were four the bijuu susano knocked one out the air. So it was above the ashura avatar the only things that were even between the bijuu susano and avatar was the ultimate jutsu's...
 
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You would have to pray for Toneri... Amen

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Yeah it was. I don't even know what you wrote, honestly. Naruto beat him in base with a single punch. RSM would end it in a single blitz.


I agree but EMS Sasuke with PS/Rinnegan restricted would still be an awful good match-up longer than 1 second with Amen blitz. At least two to three seconds if Sasuke is feeling like it

I was talking about naruto vs sasuke not naruto vs toneri... RSM wasn't applicable in The Last because naruto didn't have the other bijuu anymore, regardless the other half of kurama is even or slightly above or less than other bijuu pieces of chakra so overall power wise naruto was the samebut skill wise the Last full bm naruto is above RSM naruto.

He didn't beatToneri in base, naruto used his chakra cloak and focused all of it into his fist, making that punch everything he had... Actually literally putting his all into that punch
 
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Still irrelevant to the end of the fight. Which was drawn even and said even by naruto's statements... Finessed

Hey if you are the type, who gets stalemated against a opponent who wasn't even trying to beat you.. and then claim you are equal with that guy.. then go for it.
 

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How do you think the battle would have fared? Would he have done better or worse then Naruto?

Depends, on which doujutsu he chose to use; base, 3T, EMS, Rinnegan. Naruto was only using KM instead of KSM (Kyuubi Sage Mode), BM, BSM, or RSM/RM. Many people seemed to forget that Naruto has full Kurama now so all of his modes are stronger now. Plus Kurama left Naruto body to go fight that regenerating stone so Naruto was far from full power. Naruto is the strongest living ninja right now, especially when Sasuke and him were on the same level when he had yin Kurama. Sasuke already had Hashirama cells from when Kabuto healed him while Naruto got full Kurama and Hashirama cells after their fight.

P.S. Byakugan can see through genjutsus and Toneri had a stronger/evolved form so doubt genjutsus would have been that affective.
 
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Lmao RSM wasn't restricted. Maybe chakra overall but he was just fighting all out vs the rabbit goddess so his chakra amount wasn't suppose to be high therefore it's not a restriction.

Rinnegan was restricted sasuke said he'd gotten use to the rinne but only used 3 paths out of 6 paths that have more than 6 abilities. Kurama clearly stated naruto and kurama we're luckysasuke hadnt mastered Preta path. That's just one path if just one path wards that much fear by kurama to actually say they are LUCKY then all six wreck. Same thing done to Godara with the rinne.

RSM gains instant speed, chakra, stamina reflexes, sensing, strength...

But that's more or less assuming that all of the six paths are equal. Kurama being afraid of one path doesn't mean all paths
are too problematic. More or less, RSM = Rinnegan mastered. They pretty much counter each other. Naruto had the upper
hand the whole time without going all out. Had Sasuke mastered his rinnegan though, the fight would've ended the same
but Naruto would've had to go all out from the get go or get wrecked. The only two paths that really add to Sasuke's abilities
are deva and preta path which are pretty hax. The others are practically useless at his level (I mean like really, Cerberus
and chameleons or the king of hell move or asura path vs. rikudo chakra people)? Not really gonna help since they wouldn't
really get stronger with greater chakra (except for maybe asura but what? Rikudo chakra = rockets get replaced with nukes?
Doubt it....)
 

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Hey if you are the type, who gets stalemated against a opponent who wasn't even trying to beat you.. and then claim you are equal with that guy.. then go for it.

Neither one of them said that so this isn't applicable to this topic.

Anyway, he may didn't want to fight but he did fight, and the end result was a draw.
 

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all this sasuke vs naruto...starts with salty narutofans......

they just mad that sasuke still stronger than naruto....they thought at end naruto will kick sasuke's ass...all these years they has been talking about how naruto will own sasuke at end of manga....lol...they're just mad and salty because they waited all these years


just accept and deal with it...sasuke>your fav


as for toneri...probably sakura's punch without seal release is enough for him
 

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Neither one of them said that so this isn't applicable to this topic.

Anyway, he may didn't want to fight but he did fight, and the end result was a draw.
Read the manga.

- sasuke = NARUTO PLEASE LET ME KILL YOU.

- Naruto = I DON'T EVEN WANT TO BEAT YOU.

Read the manga properly.
 

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But that's more or less assuming that all of the six paths are equal. Kurama being afraid of one path doesn't mean all paths
are too problematic. More or less, RSM = Rinnegan mastered. They pretty much counter each other. Naruto had the upper
hand the whole time without going all out. Had Sasuke mastered his rinnegan though, the fight would've ended the same
but Naruto would've had to go all out from the get go or get wrecked. The only two paths that really add to Sasuke's abilities
are deva and preta path which are pretty hax. The others are practically useless at his level (I mean like really, Cerberus
and chameleons or the king of hell move or asura path vs. rikudo chakra people)? Not really gonna help since they wouldn't
really get stronger with greater chakra (except for maybe asura but what? Rikudo chakra = rockets get replaced with nukes?
Doubt it....)


No fully mastered rinne counters RSM.

Preta path makes a huge difference...

Absorbs ninjutsu so no FRS
Absorbs chakra so bye bye RSM cloak
Replenishes sasuke so he lasts longer


All paths would be stronger, they are enhanced by six paths power.

Nagato destroyed a city with shinra tensei with no six paths power, so its logical to think sasuke could destroy something much larger than a city.
Nagato made one ct with strain but made one with ease as an Edo through himself, sasuke made 9 in an instant with no strain or effort so with effort and maximum strain he could make 20 or more.
Asura path canon size uses chakra so enhanced by six paths power yes it should logically go from canons to Hydrogen Bombs.
Rinne summons should be based on the user but anyway shared vision is always a advantage.
Push and pull should be much stronger...
 

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Yeah it was. I don't even know what you wrote, honestly. Naruto beat him in base with a single punch. RSM would end it in a single blitz.


I agree but EMS Sasuke with PS/Rinnegan restricted would still be an awful good match-up longer than 1 second with Amen blitz. At least two to three seconds if Sasuke is feeling like it

As soon as Toneri pops up
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Read the manga.

- sasuke = NARUTO PLEASE LET ME KILL YOU.

- Naruto = I DON'T EVEN WANT TO BEAT YOU.

Read the manga properly.

I did and it read... " if WE move we both die "

Again not wanting to fight is negated by actually fighting which he did.

That's like me saying I don't want to slap you but I still do it anyway, despite saying I don't want to. The slap negates what was said
 

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sasuke who can't use his eye power tied with naruto who has perfect biju contorl (if fight continued sasuke would have killed naruto with glance tough)....manga fact....sasuke> your fav ...
 

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sasuke who can't use his eye power tied with naruto who has perfect biju contorl (if fight continued sasuke would have killed naruto with glance tough)....manga fact....sasuke> your fav ...

Kyuubi went to sleep, so any genjutsu would have mind ****ed naruto.
 

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Seals toneri inside the sun with his fake moon.
 

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Sasuke would end it in a second.
 
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