If Hashirama knew .......

[Ken Kaneki]

Right.but you misread my earlier post.I used the term most not "all".

Goku and vegeta are too much for Obito.

He may solo some. See for intangibility to work , obi to has to see the attack coming and then teleport the part. Most of DBZ characters are too damn fast.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

He won't be able to use mokuton if he's using the gates.

The gates require life sacrific while mokuton also requires huge amounts of life energy.

He can't use both so there is no point in having the gates, his taijustu isn't all that great anyways.

I still don't understand y can't he use both

 

[Ken Kaneki]

How about this? Imagine if Kimimaro could use the 8 gates (and wasn't sick).

That calls for a seperate thread. Make one

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Meliodas neg diffs

Zeref neg diffs

That is not d question

 

[Tennis Robot]

Qua-qua-qua-quadra post!!!!

 

[VongolaX]

I still don't understand y can't he use both

Mokuton uses life energy dude.

Did you see how worn out Hashirama got after using SS?

That was his whole life energy that created that buddah, it really wasn't strictly chakra (info databook 4).

Depending how much life energy/physical you have, depends on how long you can use the gates.

If Hashirama used SS, Golem, and wood dragon...

Then attempted 8th gates, he would die right there on the spot before he can use elephant or moth.

Because he already used up most of his life energy on those three wood summonings.

 

[Tennis Robot]

How about this: Imagine if Kimimaro weren't sick, knew how to use the 8 Gates, and could channel chakra through his bones like Sasuke does with his sword. He would be by far the strongest taijutsu user of all time. He has dinosaur mode (CS2) and his finger bullets become so much stronger so he has some range to counteract the great flaw of all taijutsu specialists. Even without all of this stuff he soloed the Sound 4 and was inches away from winning a fight against someone who was perfectly engineered to beat him...

Edit: In fact, what if he were Son Goku or Saiken's jinchuriki? He would be able to use lava or acid bones...How can he even be stopped?

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Mokuton uses life energy dude.

Did you see how worn out Hashirama got after using SS?

That was his whole life energy that created that buddah, it really wasn't strictly chakra (info databook 4).

Depending how much life energy/physical you have, depends on how long you can use the gates.

If Hashirama used SS, Golem, and wood dragon...

Then attempted 8th gates, he would die right there on the spot before he can use elephant or moth.

Because he already used up most of his life energy on those three wood summonings.

Interesting though I believe his life force >> Gai's ( Senju and Uzumaki's life force + chakra and Hashi is special anyways)

 

[Ken Kaneki]

How about this: Imagine if Kimimaro weren't sick, knew how to use the 8 Gates, and could channel chakra through his bones like Sasuke does with his sword. He would be by far the strongest taijutsu user of all time. He has dinosaur mode (CS2) and his finger bullets become so much stronger so he has some range to counteract the great flaw of all taijutsu specialists. Even without all of this stuff he soloed the Sound 4 and was inches away from winning a fight against someone who was perfectly engineered to beat him...

But still below Naruto 's top tiers I feel

 

[Tennis Robot]

But still below Naruto 's top tiers I feel

After the edit he's not. If he were 4 or 6 tails' (perfect) jinchuriki he would be comfortably stronger than Minato. And Nagato wouldn't be able to do much against him either. Hashirama could only hope to catch him and Kimimaro has shown impressive strength and speed feats even when he wasn't physically supposed to be able to move (and without 8 Gates).

 

[Ken Kaneki]

After the edit he's not. If he were 4 or 6 tails' (perfect) jinchuriki he would be comfortably stronger than Minato. And Nagato wouldn't be able to do much against him either. Hashirama could only hope to catch him and Kimimaro has shown impressive strength and speed feats even when he wasn't physically supposed to be able to move (and without 8 Gates).

Agree about weak Jins but not about Hashi

 

[VongolaX]

Interesting though I believe his life force >> Gai's ( Senju and Uzumaki's life force + chakra and Hashi is special anyways)

Life force is uzamaki only and life energy is strictly senju.

My point here is that this is Hashirama's energy after three mokuton summoning:

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In this physical condition, using even seven gates will kill Hashirama.

Naruto had to replenish Gai's physical/life energy by jumping into the kyuubi avatar three times.

And naruto's kyuubi chakra life energy is greater than Hashirama:

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It just impossible, you can either have one or the other.

I believe it would take juubi jinchuuriki level to accomplish both Hashirama's level of mokuton and 8 gates at the same time.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Life force is uzamaki only and life energy is strictly uchiha.

My point here is that this is Hashirama's energy after three mokuton summoning:

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In this physical condition, using even seven gates will kill Hashirama.

Naruto had to replenish Gai's physical/life energy by jumping into the kyuubi avatar three times.

And naruto's kyuubi chakra life energy is greater than Hashirama:

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It just impossible, you can either have one or the other.

I believe it would take juubi jinchuuriki level to accomplish both Hashirama's level of mokuton and 8 gates at the same time.

I don't think he can use it in SM. But in normal mode he Dan. He in normal mode beat EMS Madara. He in normal mode beat EMS Madara + Kyubbi. So his normal mode + 8 gates can be achieved

 

[VongolaX]

I don't think he can use it in SM. But in normal mode he Dan. He in normal mode beat EMS Madara. He in normal mode beat EMS Madara + Kyubbi. So his normal mode + 8 gates can be achieved

Hashirama normal would lose to EMS Madara.

Both of them were in base form exhausted with no chakra left after one day of fighting.

Sm Hashirama fought EMS Madara with Iso Susanoo Kyuubi.

Afterwards EMS a Madara fought sm Hashirama with wood golem, wood dragon and kyuubi:

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At that point the rest was off panel, but it ended in a stalemate.

But you see my point of why he wouldn't be able to use eight gates right?

 

[Ken Kaneki]

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[Ken Kaneki]

Hashirama normal would lose to EMS Madara.

Both of them were in base form exhausted with no chakra left after one day of fighting.

Sm Hashirama fought EMS Madara with Iso Susanoo Kyuubi.

Afterwards EMS a Madara fought sm Hashirama with wood golem, wood dragon and kyuubi:

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At that point the rest was off panel, but it ended in a stalemate.

But you see my point of why he wouldn't be able to use eight gates right?

1) EMS Madara would be beaten by Hashirama base. See until EMS Madara uses his Kyubbi pumped Susanoo , Hashirama was fighting in base.
2) This is a doubt. Is wood Golem a summon or a Mokuton manipulation? If it is a Mokuton manipulation, then he should be able to go 8 gates in base using Golem.
3) SM uses Nature's energy not Hashi's life force. So if he goes into SM, does not use 1000 hands of Buddha, he should be able to open gates. That would be haxx

 

[Demonic.]

He may put a great fight against yamcha.

Only character in naruto who can defeat decent amount of DBZ characters is Obito with both MS.

His intangibility mode is unbeatable.1 hand touch = defeat

Kamui GG

Kill yourself

1) EMS Madara would be beaten by Hashirama base. See until EMS Madara uses his Kyubbi pumped Susanoo , Hashirama was fighting in base.
2) This is a doubt. Is wood Golem a summon or a Mokuton manipulation? If it is a Mokuton manipulation, then he should be able to go 8 gates in base using Golem.
3) SM uses Nature's energy not Hashi's life force. So if he goes into SM, does not use 1000 hands of Buddha, he should be able to open gates. That would be haxx

Lol. That retard is still spouting his bullshit.

"In the fight, Hashirama took control of Kurama and to better aid him...Mito sealed it in herself."

Kushina was obviously talking about after the fight in the bold. Mito chose to aid Hashirama with his role as Hokage, by sealing Kurama into herself, Kushina was not saying Hashirama used Kurama to fight Madara.

You get my rep for soloing that illiterate clown.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Meliodas neg diffs

Zeref neg diffs

Meliodas is boss.

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Kill yourself



Lol. That retard is still spouting his bullshit.

"In the fight, Hashirama took control of Kurama and to better aid him...Mito sealed it in herself."

Kushina was obviously talking about after the fight in the bold. Mito chose to aid Hashirama with his role as Hokage, by sealing Kurama into herself, Kushina was not saying Hashirama used Kurama to fight Madara.

You get my rep for soloing that illiterate clown.

Thank u very much

 

[V h o]

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