If God Tier's absorb Frog NE...

[Dantee]

Because Frog SM is different from Hashirama's SM. Hashirama has a General SM with no definite background or any dangerous affects. It only enhances his speed, strength and power. It doesn't go under any category of "Frog" or "Snake", because it's just general SM. But Frog SM is different, a specific form of NE is needed to be gathered in order to enter that specific SM, and it's specific type of NE, if not controlled with experience, can result in the stone transformation.

nothing but fanfic.

 

[Magnolius]

Just like that this thread has become a new type of cancer. This is nothing even worth arguing over. Nothing in the manga even implies different types of NE. Not even one panel mentoning Frog,snake bijuu, or juubi ne The name Natural energy itself implies it comes from tress,grass water, nature etc. Cba to argue with Naruto fapboys who never take his **** out of his mouth and thinks everything is aboutNaruto vs sasuke.

If you don't want to accept the things said in the thread, then leave. If you see it as a cancer, so be it. Live in ignorance. I already told you that the very FACT their there are individual Sage Modes is already an indirect implication of it's own, gesturing towards their being different types of Sage Mode. If all NE were the same, they would all enter the same type of general SM like Hashirama, that just enhanced their Strength and Speed with no unique or special effects.

 

[Kunihi]

Because Frog SM is different from Hashirama's SM. Hashirama has a General SM with no definite background or any dangerous affects. It only enhances his speed, strength and power. It doesn't go under any category of "Frog" or "Snake", because it's just general SM. But Frog SM is different, a specific form of NE is needed to be gathered in order to enter that specific SM, and it's specific type of NE, if not controlled with experience, can result in the stone transformation.

In my opinion, there's only one type of NE which is why frog sennin mode attacks can affect the juubi's jinchuriki, why frog naruto can detect the juubi, why sasuke can detect the NE Naruto gathers, and why NE is something attributed to general energy exerted by all objects: because it's all based on the same natural energy. I think the only thing that determins whether one becomes a frog, dragon etc is the method in which you learn to absorb and manipulate natural energy.

 

[Magnolius]

nothing but fanfic.

Nothing but applying logical explanations to a theoretical statement. Not all theories are backed up with straight up hard facts, some facts are simply not provided are not accessible. But theories can still be categorizes as a high possibility by applying reasonable and logical explanations to it. And different NE's for different SM's is a logical and understandable explanation. May not be complete fact, but is still pretty viable.

 

[Dantee]

If you don't want to accept the things said in the thread, then leave. If you see it as a cancer, so be it. Live in ignorance. I already told you that the very FACT their there are individual Sage Modes is already an indirect implication of it's own, gesturing towards their being different types of Sage Mode. If all NE were the same, they would all enter the same type of general SM like Hashirama, that just enhanced their Strength and Speed with no unique or special effects.

Lmao you telling me and what the manga is telling us is two different things. I dont mind debating over this but the cancerous part is mainly you denying the fact there is only one form of NE like the manga told us and

2. Him thinking this is about Naruto vs Sasuke like every other thread he's replied to me in. Dude even takes it as far as the music section. This dude is a fiend for Narutos **** lmao.

 

[Magnolius]

In my opinion, there's only one type of NE

Yes, I also agree. There is only one type of NE, which is the simple form that Hashirama uses to enter SM. However, that NE can be branched off into other types, like Frog NE and Snake NE. The reason for

which is why frog sennin mode attacks can affect the juubi's jinchuriki, why frog naruto can detect the juubi, why sasuke can detect the NE Naruto gathers, and why NE is something attributed to general energy exerted by all objects: because it's all based on the same natural energy.

This also aids my theory. The reason for all the feats of Frog SM listed above are because though they are separate NE's, they all are based on a single NE. Like branches on a tree. Although almost every branch is separated, they all still cling to one tree.

I think the only thing that determine whether one becomes a frog, dragon etc is the method in which you learn to absorb and manipulate natural energy.

I also think that certain methods are used to determine SM. I think that the frog oil placed on Naruto gave him a since of familiarity with Frog NE, so that he could more easily identify and draw it from the general NE. I'm sure Dragon NE also has it's own method of distinguishing it's specific NE from the general NE around them.

 

[Kunihi]

Yes, I also agree. There is only one type of NE, which is the simple form that Hashirama uses to enter SM. However, that NE can be branched off into other types, like Frog NE and Snake NE. The reason for



This also aids my theory. The reason for all the feats of Frog SM listed above are because though they are separate NE's, they all are based on a single NE. Like branches on a tree. Although almost every branch is separated, they all still cling to one tree.



I also think that certain methods are used to determine SM. I think that the frog oil placed on Naruto gave him a since of familiarity with Frog NE, so that he could more easily identify and draw it from the general NE. I'm sure Dragon NE also has it's own method of distinguishing it's specific NE from the general NE around them.

how does general NE get turned into frog NE?

 

[Magnolius]

Lmao you telling me and what the manga is telling us is two different things. I dont mind debating over this but the cancerous part is mainly you denying the fact there is only one form of NE like the manga told us and

2. Him thinking this is about Naruto vs Sasuke like every other thread he's replied to me in. Dude even takes it as far as the music section. This dude is a fiend for Narutos **** lmao.

Don't link what ever personal problem he has with you, with this thread. If he's a cancer cell, don't let him spread an infect the entire body, isolate and destroy him.

OT: I said that there only is one type of NE, but it branches off into different types like Frog NE and Snake NE. To have general control of NE isn't enough, you have to have skills in it's individual branches to be able to control and/or avoid whatever affects it has.

 

[Magnolius]

how does general NE get turned into frog NE?

General NE doesn't get turned into Frog NE. Frog NE is inside General NE, which is why it takes a long time to draw it out. Frog

 

[Dantee]

Nothing but applying logical explanations to a theoretical statement. Not all theories are backed up with straight up hard facts, some facts are simply not provided are not accessible. But theories can still be categorizes as a high possibility by applying reasonable and logical explanations to it. And different NE's for different SM's is a logical and understandable explanation. May not be complete fact, but is still pretty viable.

It's not that I can't understand what you're trying to say. Nor that different forms of NE would be illogical in conjunction with different forms of SM. It's just that it wouldn't make sense to statements made in the manga regarding NE in general. The Juubi is comprised of NE without any specified type with an abundance so large Naruto without rikudou powers was unable to measure it. Ask yourself why never once in the manga a specific type of NE was ever mentioned when NE was such a big part especially in the war arc. Why is Naruto able to handle NE, Kurama gathers him without being accustomed to that specific type of NE(BSM).

 

[Ansatsuken]

They can as natural energy was the base of their chakra. Juubi absorb Nature energy.

In other words everthing involving Six Path power user, Nature energy, senjutsu was their normal thing.

And no they will not turn into Frog/statue bcus they can handle natural energy very well.

 

[Magnolius]

It's not that I can't understand what you're trying to say. Nor that different forms of NE would be illogical in conjunction with different forms of SM. It's just that it wouldn't make sense to statements made in the manga regarding NE in general.

How so? Let's have a look at the next part down below :sdo:

The Juubi is comprised of NE without any specified type with an abundance so large Naruto without rikudou powers was unable to measure it.

Juubi comprised of general NE, I never said it had any specific type.

Ask yourself why never once in the manga a specific type of NE was ever mentioned when NE was such a big part especially in the war arc.

Lack of development. If separate forms of NE were mentioned in Manga, than my arguments would be fact, not theory.

Why is Naruto able to handle NE, Kurama gathers him without being accustomed to that specific type of NE(BSM).

Because Kurama was apart of Juubi, who has general NE :sdo: So Kurama was more than likely able to adapt to it after his hosts trained with using it. JJ Mad, JJ Obito, and Kaguya are, however, not trained in using Frog NE.

 

[Ansatsuken]

How so? Let's have a look at the next part down below :sdo:



Juubi comprised of general NE, I never said it had any specific type.



Lack of development. If separate forms of NE were mentioned in Manga, than my arguments would be fact, not theory.



Because Kurama was apart of Juubi, who has general NE :sdo: So Kurama was more than likely able to adapt to it after his hosts trained with using it. JJ Mad, JJ Obito, and Kaguya are, however, not trained in using Frog NE.

What so special about frog Senjutsu when Progenitor of chakra couldnt handle it? Not making any sense.

Not that it came from different origin outside of Shinju, Chakra fruit of Naruto planet.

Even all those frogs theoretically created by someone, Hago maybe. And that mean Frog senjutsu have a connection with Six Path Senjutsu. Its like a branch that start from the original source.

 

[Magnolius]

What so special about frog Senjutsu when Progenitor of chakra couldnt handle it? Not making any sense.

Not that it came from different origin outside of Shinju, Chakra fruit of Naruto planet.

Even all those frogs theoretically created by someone, Hago maybe. And that mean Frog senjutsu have a connection with Six Path Senjutsu. Its like a branch that start from the original source.

Not saying that they couldn't handle it, just saying that going by my logic and explanations, they shouldn't be able to handle it. Kaguya began the start of Chakra, but still was caught by a surprise Sexy Jutsu. Just because you started something, doesn't mean you have full control of/can handle the developments made in it's category.

 

[Dantee]

How so? Let's have a look at the next part down below :sdo:



Juubi comprised of general NE, I never said it had any specific type.



Lack of development. If separate forms of NE were mentioned in Manga, than my arguments would be fact, not theory.



Because Kurama was apart of Juubi, who has general NE :sdo: So Kurama was more than likely able to adapt to it after his hosts trained with using it. JJ Mad, JJ Obito, and Kaguya are, however, not trained in using Frog NE.

Juubi comprised of general NE, I never said it had any specific type

That's what you're obviously implying if you start saying things like Frog and Snake NE. Why should it only apply to Naruto and Kabuto?

Lack of development. If separate forms of NE were mentioned in Manga, than my arguments would be fact, not theory

Development? It was never mentioned once. Even when Naruto was learning frog sage mode from the ground up, it wasn't even mentioned. That should tell you right there you're wrong....

Because Kurama was apart of Juubi, who has general NE :sdo: So Kurama was more than likely able to adapt to it after his hosts trained with using it. JJ Mad, JJ Obito, and Kaguya are, however, not trained in using Frog NE.

You're aren't making sense at all. Kurama was able to adapt to it because his host trained with it? The excuses are piling up here my friend. It's becoming obvious now you're trying to convince yourself about something that doesn't even exist. Using words like general NE now lmao. It's all the same that makes a lot more sense dont you think.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Not saying that they couldn't handle it, just saying that going by my logic and explanations, they shouldn't be able to handle it. Kaguya began the start of Chakra, but still was caught by a surprise Sexy Jutsu. Just because you started something, doesn't mean you have full control of/can handle the developments made in it's category.

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I dont know how to respond to the bold.

 

[Magnolius]

That's what you're obviously implying if you start saying things like Frog and Snake NE. Why should it only apply to Naruto and Kabuto?

Your point being?

Development? It was never mentioned once. Even when Naruto was learning frog sage mode from the ground up, it wasn't even mentioned.

Which is why this is a theory. Had separate forms of NE been mentioned in the Manga, this wouldn't be a theory, it would be fact.

You're aren't making sense at all. Kurama was able to adapt to it because his host trained with it? The excuses are piling up here my friend. It's becoming obvious now you're trying to convince yourself about something that doesn't even exist. Using words like general NE now lmao. It's all the same that makes a lot more sense dont you think.

Yeah, the last post was just a bunch of excuses. I was caught off guard, and couldn't find a more proper way to reply. I don't have all the answers behind this theory, I just know that different forms of NE should be/could be a possibility in the NV.

 

[Magnolius]

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I dont know how to respond to the bold.

I was giving an example. Didn't Kaguya's eating the forbidden fruit cause her to possess chakra, which after time was given to all born ninja, which goes on to the fact that all chakra belongs to her? I was saying that just because she started that chain of chakra that expanded along all ninja, doesn't mean she has control/can handle every development or creation made with that said chakra. Just like just because Juubi created/started the flow of NE in the world, doesn't mean he has control of/can handle all developments made with that NE, the Frog NE was more than likely developed and created after his time. All he knows is general NE, he doesn't know about the many forms it's been developed into taking. All Kaguya knows is chakra, she doesn't know about the many forms of Ninjutsu that her started chakra created in to.

 

[iFlowMotion]

Dantee is right you know

 

[Ansatsuken]

I was giving an example. Didn't Kaguya's eating the forbidden fruit cause her to possess chakra, which after time was given to all born ninja, which goes on to the fact that all chakra belongs to her? I was saying that just because she started that chain of chakra that expanded along all ninja, doesn't mean she has control/can handle every development or creation made with that said chakra. Just like just because Juubi created/started the flow of NE in the world, doesn't mean he has control of/can handle all developments made with that NE, the Frog NE was more than likely developed and created after his time. All he knows is general NE, he doesn't know about the many forms it's been developed into taking. All Kaguya knows is chakra, she doesn't know about the many forms of Ninjutsu that her started chakra created in to.

You are using bad example here. Do you ever thinking or making enough consideration before choosing an example?

SHe doesnt know many form of Ninujutsu but many ninjutsu was useless on her and Sexy jutsu is reaction targeting jutsu. Everyone can be caught by it and you seem making a big deal out of it. Whether Kaguya could handle it or not had nothing to do with her knowledge about any Ninjutsu.