[Discussion] If every living thing has chakra inside of them....

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

And the only two times that chakra has entered the ecosystem were when the Princess ate the fruit, and the Sage became jinchuriki of the Juubi, then how is it possible for everything living thing to be born with chakra (in the present story line) and where did that Nature chakra come from.

Edit: I honestly think Kishi messed up slightly, but I thought up an asspull which could account for everything.

Sage was the first organism to be born with Chakra. The Shinju then turned into the Juubi because it was angry. Something that looks similar to the first form of the Juubi. Shown here

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. Now obviously the Shinju has more chakra inside of it than that first form of the Juubi. Now we must ask ourselves what happened to all that extra chakra. Well to satisfy everything, we could speculate that when the Shinju transformed into the Juubi the chakra it lost went into the earth, became a part of every organism, and with evolution it turned into Yin/Yang chakra in humans and Natural chakra in nature. The Sage while we was alive spread his teaching of how to use chakra etc.

Also we need to specifiy that while the Juubi is the originator of Chakra in the NV, it cannot have once held all the chakra on offer today. This is because an individual's chakra levels grow during their life time, and the Chakra from parents is not given to children otherwise having children would kill the parents. It must be that having chakra gives the individual the ability to develop more chakra with experience and training.

This theory fits in with the Sage being the first person to be born with chakra, but also allows for the fact that in the current story line every living thing now has chakra. It also allows for progression in an individual with increased chakra levels as well as chakra loss and recovery.

Another ass pull to explain why people die without chakra, is that with evolution, humans and other organisms became dependent on it.

Anyway thanks for commenting before, you helped me come up with this.

 

[Madara ibn Lahad]

That I do not know... Could be a flaw in Kishis story telling....

 

[Peace Maker]

Nature chakra comes from Nature's Chakra =D and Sage of the six paths teached it to the people, then those people teached it to other people then one day it became a clan, then village and about those everything since his a god he can give any living things their own chakra not to mentioned since he know that oneday the juubi will comeback and terrorize the human world he showed it to the other animals about absorbing nature, I think those animal just like calling it natures chakra since it goes to your body like chakra and mix it. seems legit....

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Nature chakra comes from Nature's Chakra =D and Sage of the six paths teached it to the people, then those people teached it to other people then one day it became a clan, then village..

But if Nature chakra comes from Nature, it goes against the stated fact in the manga, that all chakra once belonged to the Juubi.

Also how could the sage teach it to animals and plants, all of which are born with chakra.

 

[Skull Knight]

true i was also thinking d same?
how can sage having 2 sons can made so many shinobi's wit chakra???????

 

[Like Naruto]

Nature chakra comes from Nature's Chakra =D and Sage of the six paths teached it to the people, then those people teached it to other people then one day it became a clan, then village and about those everything since his a god he can give any living things their own chakra not to mentioned since he know that oneday the juubi will comeback and terrorize the human world he showed it to the other animals about absorbing nature, I think those animal just like calling it natures chakra since it goes to your body like chakra and mix it. seems legit....

This..,.....

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

And the only two times that chakra has entered the ecosystem were when the Princess ate the fruit, and the Sage became jinchuriki of the Juubi, then how is it possible for everything living thing to be born with chakra (in the present story line) and where did that Nature chakra come from.

MOST probably S06P shared his chakra to other peoples like what hashirama shared each tailed beast to every country so that the power of every country should balanced...........And most interesting is that , nature energy (SAGE MODE) is not from the juubi thats why naruto's sage mode's techniques damaged the obito or juubi.....what your all thoughts about that?

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

MOST probably S06P shared his chakra to other peoples like what hashirama shared each tailed beast to every country so that the power of every country should balanced...........And most interesting is that , nature energy (SAGE MODE) is not from the juubi thats why naruto's sage mode's techniques damaged the obito or juubi.....what your all thoughts about that?

Honestly i'm sceptical that the sage managed to share chakra with all the ancestors of the human race, and it's down right impossible to suggest that the sage shared his chakra with the ancestor of every species of animal/plant etc on the planet.

As to Nature Chakra, the Shinju is supposed to be the originator of all chakra. Yin Yang and Nature. If Nature chakra existed before the Shinju, it goes against the statement that the Shinju was the originator of ALL chakra.

 

[Mr Hiru]

And the only two times that chakra has entered the ecosystem were when the Princess ate the fruit, and the Sage became jinchuriki of the Juubi, then how is it possible for everything living thing to be born with chakra (in the present story line) and where did that Nature chakra come from.

It is not chakra, it is natural chakra for living things my friend.

 

[Uchiha Sutona]

The Juubi is nature chakra... he is the very earth and oceans.. the chakra was all his to begin with.. then the princess ate the fruit from the tree... thus gaining chakra.. the only one to ever have chakra, thus being a god. then she bore the sage, who also contained chakra and was born with it, who then sealed then sealed the tree (Juubi) into himself, thus saving the world, and achieving powers beyond his mothers. then he bore two sons, which contained chakra as well... and then they would go on to repopulate the lands with their fertile seeds. the end.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

The Narutoverse: Where incest doesn't **** you up, but makes you stronger.



OT: most likely every living thing did have chakra, but it was dormant, and the only active chakra existed in the tree. With the people's chakra kindling and activating, the Shinju Tree naturally began consuming it since it believed the chakra to be its own.

Either something parallel to that or the Size Five font. Don't know about you, but a lot of family members falling for one another isn't my thing.

 

[mangafan321]

When first chakra was developed a technique was made to enhance the chakra present inside with natural energy which is known as senjutsu. And may be the technique was made by rikudou as he noted his power doesn't work over him and may the toads, snakes and other animals were given chakra to battle him against the shinju. It is not said in manga or anywhere so i just thought,

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Honestly i'm sceptical that the sage managed to share chakra with all the ancestors of the human race, and it's down right impossible to suggest that the sage shared his chakra with the ancestor of every species of animal/plant etc on the planet.

As to Nature Chakra, the Shinju is supposed to be the originator of all chakra. Yin Yang and Nature. If Nature chakra existed before the Shinju, it goes against the statement that the Shinju was the originator of ALL chakra.

No no , you got it wrong..... if u read last mangas .....juubi also gather chakra from nature and that why naruto couldnt detect his chakra ....and all shinobi have a chakra from juubi that's why their attacks didnt harm obito rather than that naruto's sage mode rasengan(which is made fromm nature chakra ) damaged obito

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Nature chakra comes from Nature's Chakra =D and Sage of the six paths teached it to the people, then those people teached it to other people then one day it became a clan, then village and about those everything since his a god he can give any living things their own chakra not to mentioned since he know that oneday the juubi will comeback and terrorize the human world he showed it to the other animals about absorbing nature, I think those animal just like calling it natures chakra since it goes to your body like chakra and mix it. seems legit....

Yes but the Sage was simply a human with an insane amount of chakra, its impossible for him in his life time, to give a portion of his chakra to every single species.

The Narutoverse: Where incest doesn't **** you up, but makes you stronger.



OT: most likely every living thing did have chakra, but it was dormant, and the only active chakra existed in the tree. With the people's chakra kindling and activating, the Shinju Tree naturally began consuming it since it believed the chakra to be its own.

Either something parallel to that or the Size Five font. Don't know about you, but a lot of family members falling for one another isn't my thing.

I agree something is weird about this. I was thinking something along the lines of dormant chakra, or maybe that Madara is mistaken. As it is, it doesn't make sense.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

No no , you got it wrong..... if u read last mangas .....juubi also gather chakra from nature and that why naruto couldnt detect his chakra ....and all shinobi have a chakra from juubi that's why their attacks didnt harm obito rather than that naruto's sage mode rasengan(which is made fromm nature chakra ) damaged obito

I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. My argument is that all chakra is supposed to have originated with the Shinju, however if this was the case, it doesn't make sense that all living things now have chakra, when chakra has only entered the ecosystem on two occasions. Without other sources or a different explanation it doesn't work.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Yes but the Sage was simply a human with an insane amount of chakra, its impossible for him in his life time, to give a portion of his chakra to every single species.


I agree something is weird about this. I was thinking something along the lines of dormant chakra, or maybe that Madara is mistaken. As it is, it doesn't make sense.

Dormant chakra can't be true. The manga stated that the Sage was the first human born with chakra in his body. That's why I'm giving you insight that living things from nature have natural chakra, because Sage Mode gathers energy from all things in nature.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. My argument is that all chakra is supposed to have originated with the Shinju, however if this was the case, it doesn't make sense that all living things now have chakra, when chakra has only entered the ecosystem on two occasions. Without other sources or a different explanation it doesn't work.

I want to say that not all chakra is from juubi ....but I thought that juubi is the first one who gathered chakra from the nature and the princess ate the fruit and then she got chakra in his body which is juubi's chakra....AS the all shinobi's chakra is from juubi THAT's why their attacks were not working BUT naruto's SM attacks was working

 

[-ahhimane-]

CHAKRA WAS THE ALREADY PRESENT IN EVERYBODY. JUUBI WAS THE ONLY TREE WHO COULD USE IT. THAT'S WHY THE TREE WAS SO HUGE.
KAGUYA WAS THE FIRST TO GET TO KNOW HER OWN CHAKRA AS WELL AS TO USE IT ALONG WITH JUUBI'S CHAKRA BECAUSE OF THE FRUIT. THAT IS WHY SAGE BORN WITH THE CHAKRA.

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THIS MEANS THAT SAGE DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW AND MOULD HIS OWN CHAKRA. HE COULD ALREADY USE IT.

YOU GUYS NEED TO READ THE MANGA FROM THE START WHERE " SAKURA " EXPLAINS ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF CHAKRA.

CHAKRA DWELLS INSIDE EVERY BEING. THE ONLY THING FOR THE PERSON TO DO IS TO MOULD HIS/HER OWN CHAKRA AND KNOW ITS TYPE TO SHARP IT AND USE IT FOR NINJUTSU.

SAGE KNEW THE CONCEPT OF CHAKRA AND HE STARTED PREACHING ABOUT IT TO EVERYONE, JUST LIKE TEACHERS LIKE IRUKA NOW TEACH IN THE NINJA ACADEMY.

YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT CHAKRA HERE :

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BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY DATABOOKS.

YOU GUYS WHO'RE STRUGGLING TO KNOW THE ANSWERS ARE WORSE THAN SAKURA

 

[xLucyx]

Didn't they say in the manga 'shinobi stole chakra from the god tree'? Does that mean that prinses Kaguya was the first one who ate from the fruit, but than, the others ate from it too? In the manga, they only say that pringes Kaguya was the first one who ate it, so it is possible that others ate from the fruit too...

 

[Mr Hiru]

CHAKRA WAS THE ALREADY PRESENT IN EVERYBODY

Sorry, but the image says otherwise. The sage was the first human born with chakra.