If ems sasuke fought bsm naruto instead of helping itachi

[TheUnbiasedOne]

If what you're looking for is BSM Naruto > EMS Sasuke, ots complicated.

When you mention EMS Sasuke, he has completely shifting powers. You could mean Kabuto Fight Sasuke, which would get high diffed by BM and Mid Diffed by BSM. You could mean Beginning of Juubito Sasuke, which Stalemates BM and gets Mid-High Diffed by BSM. You could mean End of Juubito Sasuke, who Mid Diffs BM and Either Stalemates, or loses to BSM Naruto.

EMS Sasuke has fluctuating power. If he went to kill Naruto during when the Kabuto fight Was supposed to be happening, the Naruto would have a weak version of BM, and Extreme Diff Him. You can't use weak Sasuke then BSM Naruto.

I mean I guess you can if you need the answer you're looking for. Which is Naruto>Sasuke

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[The Demon Hawk]

he would lose against BSM

sasuke wet his pant when he saw bsm. so sasuke gets rekted so hard and badly

It would have been GG for Sasuke.

With undeveloped EMS? Yes. With fully developed EMS w/PS? No.

 

[SatanicGod]

It would have been GG for Sasuke.



I don't agree with this, Edo Itachi can beat Kabuto (w/o ET) alone.

Itachi couldn't get out of the White Rage technique without Sasuke

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

With undeveloped EMS? Yes. With fully developed EMS w/PS? No.

no BM NAruto = EMS Sasuke

BSM NAruto > EMS Sasuke

 

[V h o]

Sasuke would have lost. Although there wouldn't be any edo kages so IT plan would've been successful so....

 

[Ambivalence]

Itachi couldn't get out of the White Rage technique without Sasuke

If he's actually trying to kill, Itachi could just make clones to snap him out in case he ever got caught, although it wouldn't come to White Rage anyway.

With undeveloped EMS? Yes. With fully developed EMS w/PS? No.

That PS is only as strong as BM Naruto's avatar. Add Juugo's Senjutsu and only then it's equal to BSM Kurama avatar. Sasuke's PS can't take more than 2 Senjutsu TBBs without it being destroyed, let alone an FBD.

You could mean End of Juubito Sasuke, who Mid Diffs BM and Either Stalemates, or loses to BSM Naruto.

Lol, as if. No version of EMS Sasuke can mid-diff BM Naruto, in fact he ties him at the very best, though he's realistically below him.

 

[xxSAGExx]

If he's actually trying to kill, Itachi could just make clones to snap him out in case he ever got caught, although it wouldn't come to White Rage anyway.



That PS is only as strong as BM Naruto's avatar. Add Juugo's Senjutsu and only then it's equal to BSM Kurama avatar. Sasuke's PS can't take more than 2 Senjutsu TBBs without it being destroyed, let alone an FBD.



Lol, as if. No version of EMS Sasuke can mid-diff BM Naruto, in fact he ties him at the very best, though he's realistically below him.

You say if Edo Itachi was actually trying to kill but you seem to miss that Kabuto wasn't trying to actually win due to plot; he negs Itachi but just ending Edo Tensei. His only goal in the war was to get Sasuke, he could have easily coffined the Edo's that were still free then end the jutsu which renders Edo Itachi gone and Sasuke ripe for the picking.

In their fight Kabuto was able to hide his present from the Sharingan using his snakes until he went SM then he used white noise which releases a bright light and high pitch sound waves that causes you to close your eyes and makes it hard to focus. Before, Edo Itachi knew Kabuto was going for Sasuke but in a 1 on 1 Kabuto can approach in another way to place his seal in Itachi or just use white noise as a distraction to set up his sound genjutsu which Itachi can't break alone.

Sasuke wouldn't have Juugo there to help him and even if Juugo showed up, how is he getting past Bee, Kakashi, and Gai? Also Sasuke wouldn't know about Senjutsu/SM nor would want Juugo's help. PS power is comparable to a Bijuus; Naruto's BM is comparable to at least 5 Bijuus and this is just Yang Kurama.

Itachi still solo kabuto. Sasuke would be defeated by bsm naruto. But yeah half of SA would be dead during naruto vs sasuke fight by the hands of obito and madara.

You say still except that Itachi never solo Kabuto, he had Sasuke's help and even then plot allowed them to win. Kabuto neg diff Edo Itachi by simply ending Edo Tensei or just use his sound genjutsu. Madara was still fighting the Kages at the point this took place and it's before Obito revived the Juubi. Plot made the war get as far as it did; Kabuto could have easily coffined the Edo Jinchuurikis who have Bijuus 2-7 in them. Kabuto never tried controlling Madara but seeing how he he could choose to turn off a Edo's personality, I don't see him having trouble coffining Edo Madara. Kabuto doesn't care about Obito's goals, only his own.

It would have been GG for Sasuke.



I don't agree with this, Edo Itachi can beat Kabuto (w/o ET) alone.

How can Edo Itachi beat Kabuto? Kabuto could just undo Edo Tensei and Edo Itachi is gone. He also was able to hide from Sasuke and Edo Itachi's Sharingans using his snakes until he went SM then he began to attack. The most diff Edo Itachi can do to a non Edo Kabuto is mid diff and that's if he's trying to kill.

That is my point. :wesobi:Naruto and the SA were about to get slaughtered when Sasuke arrived earlier. If Sasuke had stayed an enemy and didn't go and resurrect the old hokage then Naruto would have been f*cked. In fact if Itachi had lost then the SA wouldn't have been able to come to Naruto's side and Naruto would have died probably before Sasuke even made it to the battlefield.

And even if he made it there before Naruto was defeated Sasuke only has three options.

1# Side with Obito and destroy everything
2# Side with Naruto so that he can kill Naruto later (they both would still die)
3# Claim that Naruto is his kill and get destroyed by everyone. :|

Every option leads to the death of everyone seeing how without Sasuke to help Itachi to counter Kabuto's sound genjutsu Itachi loses and the Edo Tensei army keeps everyone busy.

This is about if Sasuke went after Naruto instead of Kabuto so this is while Edo Madara is still fighting the Kages and BM Naruto/Bee/Kakashi/Gai are fighting Obito+Edo Jinchuurikis/Bijuus. Remember Kabuto's reason for joining the war, to get Sasuke from Obito. Once Kabuto finds out Sasuke is after Naruto via the Edo Jinchuurikis then he can choose to coffin the Edo Jinchuurikis which have the Bijuus in them which would make Obito either retreat or go after Kabuto who would be heading towards Sasuke. Kabuto summons Edo Madara to him, remove his personality and have him fight Obito as Kabuto along with Muu's clone, Chiyo, and Kimmimaru head for Sasuke.

 

[Blackzoro]

With undeveloped EMS? Yes. With fully developed EMS w/PS? No.

BM naruto = EMS sasuke at best BSM naruto > EMS sasuke. Idk what u mean by undeveloped EMS when they both have just gotten their powers so they are both undeveloped

 

[Swagdara Uchiha]

Orochimaru would have never been released resulting in the Four Hokage never entering the battlefield. Countless Shinobi alliance get killed by Shinju, If some Survive they get finished off by Juubito. Naruto dies in various Scenarios (Sarutobi would never save him from the Chakra branches, Minato's Kurama was never there). Sasuke is still filled with Hatred and never helps against Obito and Madara opting to fight and kill Naruto instead. Obito never has a change of heart and kills off anything in his way.

OT: Everything goes to ****

 

[The Demon Hawk]

no BM NAruto = EMS Sasuke

BSM NAruto > EMS Sasuke

1. BSM doesn't add anything to the Kurama Avatar. So the physical aspect of EMS Sasuke will be on par with BSM Naruto since the fight will mainly be between the chakra structures.

2. In ninjutsu department, Naruto's power get increased by BSM, but Susanoo's ninjutsu can counter all of those attacks. The minor ones can be simply tanked.

BM Naruto = EMS Sasuke
BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke with Susanoo ninjutsu

That PS is only as strong as BM Naruto's avatar. Add Juugo's Senjutsu and only then it's equal to BSM Kurama avatar. Sasuke's PS can't take more than 2 Senjutsu TBBs without it being destroyed, let alone an FBD.

BSM does not empower the Kurama Avatar. BM Kurama Avatar = BSM Kurama Avatar = PS. Kurama forms the Avatar, not Naruto who has the Senjutsu. And that's because the Avatar is an addition on top of Sage Mode. Basically, BSM = BM + SM. In BSM, SM is independent from BM. They both are simultaneously used, but they are not fused together.

Also, if Rikodou Sasuke's PS perfectly matches Rikodou Naruto's Avatar, there is no reason to believe that non-Rikodou Sasuke's PS is inferior to non-Rikodou Naruto's Avatar. Because the increase in power for both Naruto and Sasuke was proportionate. And they can only be presently equal if they were previously equal. If Sasuke needed Juugo's Senjutsu to match Naruto's Kurama Avatar before Rikodou power ups, then he'd definitely also need Juugo's Senjutsu to match Naruto's Kurama Avatar even after attaining Rikodou powers because Hagoromo gave them equal power. No other biased reasoning is acceptable.

Firstly, "2 Senjutsu TBBs destroying PS" theory has no solid proof. It's a mere assumption. And even if we do believe that 2 Senjutsu TBBs can destroy PS, then there is simply no reason for Sasuke to take those attacks. He will simply counter them with Susanoo's ninjutsu (with Lightning or Enton) which is on par with Naruto's Senjutsu powered Bijuu attacks. And even that's not needed because Sasuke can simply throw a plain Susanoo arrow and make them explode on impact away from the Susanoo.

BM naruto = EMS sasuke at best BSM naruto > EMS sasuke. Idk what u mean by undeveloped EMS when they both have just gotten their powers so they are both undeveloped

BM Naruto = EMS Sasuke w/PS
BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke w/PS and Susanoo ninjutsu (Lightning and Enton)

That's what I mean by fully developed. Naruto gets his powers immediately. Sasuke's powers develop gradually. BM/BSM Naruto has only one stage. Whereas EMS Sasuke has multiple stages from full bodied Susanoo to armored full bodied Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo with ninjutsu.