[Theory] If breaking the 10 tails up created 9 baby tailed beasts, and they are adults now...

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If 10 Tails = 9 Baby Tailed Beasts and Naruto gains the allied strength of all fully mature 9 Tailed Beasts, isn't that, naturally, going to be a greater power than that wielded by the So6P? It's been mentioned that the babies may have had all the power of their elder forms, but I find that hard to believe. If people can build chakra levels throughout their life, then so can Tailed Beasts, I figure.

Further, it seems the So6P did not live in the same sort of harmony that Naruto proposes. On page 11, So6P's expressing some sort of regret about his relationship with the beast(s). If Naruto's some sort of promised land for the Tailed Beasts, wouldn't that also imply that Naruto (will be) > So6P?

And I know that it's more of a rinnegan pattern on his cloak, not Uzumaki, but it is interesting to note that we can now see that the elder So6P had light (not gray or black) hair. For that matter, not red, either. Perhaps he was an Uzumaki, but perhaps he was a Namikaze?
 
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Well we have to assume for now that the tailed beasts' strength have not increased since they were young. The Juubi was clearly fully grown when he was split, so its not like he was a baby too. The point about seeing the baby biju is that the sage gave them each new life, a new form.

Keep in mind that naruto has always had the nine tails chakra since he was young. It didn't matter how small he was, just that it was sealed in him. I think that all the biju have the same amount of chakra now as they did back then.
 

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If 10 Tails = 9 Baby Tailed Beasts and Naruto gains the allied strength of all fully mature 9 Tailed Beasts, isn't that, naturally, going to be a greater power than that wielded by the So6P? It's been mentioned that the babies may have had all the power of their elder forms, but I find that hard to believe. If people can build chakra levels throughout their life, then so can Tailed Beasts, I figure.

Further, it seems the So6P did not live in the same sort of harmony that Naruto proposes. On page 11, So6P's expressing some sort of regret about his relationship with the beast(s). If Naruto's some sort of promised land for the Tailed Beasts, wouldn't that also imply that Naruto (will be) > So6P?

And I know that it's more of a rinnegan pattern on his cloak, not Uzumaki, but it is interesting to note that we can now see that the elder So6P had light (not gray or black) hair. For that matter, not red, either. Perhaps he was an Uzumaki, but perhaps he was a Namikaze?
I seriously can't say,i just want to see sasuke,jiraya & minato :cool:
 

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If 10 Tails = 9 Baby Tailed Beasts and Naruto gains the allied strength of all fully mature 9 Tailed Beasts, isn't that, naturally, going to be a greater power than that wielded by the So6P? It's been mentioned that the babies may have had all the power of their elder forms, but I find that hard to believe. If people can build chakra levels throughout their life, then so can Tailed Beasts, I figure.

Further, it seems the So6P did not live in the same sort of harmony that Naruto proposes. On page 11, So6P's expressing some sort of regret about his relationship with the beast(s). If Naruto's some sort of promised land for the Tailed Beasts, wouldn't that also imply that Naruto (will be) > So6P?

And I know that it's more of a rinnegan pattern on his cloak, not Uzumaki, but it is interesting to note that we can now see that the elder So6P had light (not gray or black) hair. For that matter, not red, either. Perhaps he was an Uzumaki, but perhaps he was a Namikaze?
agreed.
 

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Wouldn't that be a twist to the plot that the Namikaze are the direct descendants of the Sage? I mean they don't have any outstanding traits like KG or anything so it would fit as not having ninjutsu before the sage created it. Sounds farfetched huh?

Either way I feel it is safe to assume that there is a tie between the Sage, Minato, and Naruto. But what that is exactly is open to interpretation.
 

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i agree U_U
a man called a god among men is still a man, so why couldn't he be surpassed? and why not by naruto?

as for the point earlier about kurama being sealed in naruto since birth, so naruto is just like the baby Tailed Beasts, I'd say that's an inaccurate metaphor. although naruto has always had kurama inside him, providing a whole other level of chakra reserves, he has his own pool that he has been growing and developing on his own, much like any ninja does. when he was younger, if he hit zero on his own chakra, it'd mean trouble because he wouldn't be able to keep back kurama any longer. why deny the Tailed Beasts the same ability to develop and grow one's chakra that any ninja has? why wouldn't bee, for that matter, as a perfect jinchuriki, be able to increase his/their chakra as one shared individual. didn't he get stronger over time?
 

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Personally, I don't think a tail beast can gain more chakra.They are all just individual parts of the Jubi.The Jubi had a set amount of chakra and his chakra was split unevenly among the nine tail beasts.I don't think the size of the beast matters, seeing as when naruto first tired to turn into full scale Kurama, he turn into a tiny kurama.Does that mean that all of Kurama chakra disappear;of course not, it was just a form.Which is my opinion of why the tail beasts look the way they did in the past.It was just a form.
 
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Well we have to assume for now that the tailed beasts' strength have not increased since they were young. The Juubi was clearly fully grown when he was split, so its not like he was a baby too. The point about seeing the baby biju is that the sage gave them each new life, a new form.

Keep in mind that naruto has always had the nine tails chakra since he was young. It didn't matter how small he was, just that it was sealed in him. I think that all the biju have the same amount of chakra now as they did back then.
Younger baby Biju probably had gradual release Seals placed upon them or Seals under the control of the Sages sons. Perhaps the son with the eyes abused and used the Biju's hence the 9 Tails somewhat unexplained anger and hatred of humans. As a matter of fact the 8 Tails also struggled with Humans. Perhaps the Uchia son or Elder son is it? became greedy for power and used the Biju's to attain dominance!
 

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Personally, I don't think a tail beast can gain more chakra.They are all just individual parts of the Jubi.The Jubi had a set amount of chakra and his chakra was split unevenly among the nine tail beasts.I don't think the size of the beast matters, seeing as when naruto first tired to turn into full scale Kurama, he turn into a tiny kurama.Does that mean that all of Kurama chakra disappear;of course not, it was just a form.Which is my opinion of why the tail beasts look the way they did in the past.It was just a form.
but, again, that example is naruto using someone else's chakra. the Tailed Beasts don't have someone else's chakra locked away inside them. they have only to master their own native chakra. further, who said the chakra of the 10 Tails was a fixed variable. We thought the Tailed Beasts were manifestations of hate, but we now know that's not the case. For all we know, the 10 Tails was once the So6P's human best friend that embraced his/her rage and anger until he/she literally became a monster that needed to be locked away, and the So6P was the only one that could do it. if that's the case, the 10 Tails would have just kept getting stronger, if not stopped. as we don't know the exact nature of the 10 Tails, we can't assume there was a limit to his/her chakra potential.
 

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He's not stronger than So6p and never will be.
That's a broad statement, considering the Sage himself hinted at someone surpassing him. We still don't know his strength, yet you make blind judgements.

What if his only moves were Chibaku Tensei and Creation of All Things? That'd be interesting huh.

I think it's plausible that Naruto can be stronger than the Sage.
 

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That's a broad statement, considering the Sage himself hinted at someone surpassing him. We still don't know his strength, yet you make blind judgements.

What if his only moves were Chibaku Tensei and Creation of All Things? That'd be interesting huh.

I think it's plausible that Naruto can be stronger than the Sage.
Agreed
 
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