If Ashura beat Indra without Bijuu how did his descendants became so weak?

[V h o]

When has senju been known as weak? Never has senju been considered weak, so this thread is pointless.

 

[Nick01]

How did indra's reincarnation get so weak they had to start stealing powers just to compete with ashuras reincarnation . Also they did become weaker no way hashi or naruto can stand against ashura and no way Madara or sasuke stands against Indra

Naruto is a much better representation of what Ashura stood for than Hashirama ever was. Hashirama was born with power and talent greatly exceeding Madara's. Ashura was meant to represent cooperation. Hashirama used his power to subdue and control Bijuu, whereas Naruto earned their respect by treating them as equals and sincerely caring for their well-being.

Exactly.

When has senju been known as weak? Never has senju been considered weak, so this thread is pointless.

It is pointless, not surprised though, considering who made the thread.

 

[90sKids98]

Weak this is ridiculous, Hashirama attained wood style with sage mode if that's "weak" to you then you're hilarious, especially considering his cells are what kept Sasuke alive

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Lol As expected people are going to ignore Naruto having the Kyuubi as if that was supposed to be the case. Naruto would have been Ashura's transmigrant regardless of the Kyuubi.

Now I'm hearing the Ashura inherited Tailed Beast Chakra when Hagoromo himself said he took ALL the Juubi's chakra and split it into the Bijuu. Now miraculously Ashura had Bijuu Chakra and it disappeared without a trace. Makes much sense :lol

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Weak this is ridiculous, Hashirama attained wood style with sage mode if that's "weak" to you then you're hilarious, especially considering his cells are what kept Sasuke alive

As i said Hashirama was the last one to carry the mantle. After him Ashura's descendants had to rely on Bijuu power and Hagoromo kept Sasuke alive, not the implants from kabuto. They just added to his chakra.

How did indra's reincarnation get so weak they had to start stealing powers just to compete with ashuras reincarnation . Also they did become weaker no way hashi or naruto can stand against ashura and no way Madara or sasuke stands against Indra

Stealing what powers? Stop reaching for excuses. It was already made clear that the only way they can escape the disease of blindess (something indra never had to worry about) was the join two mangekyo in order to make it like Indras. that's it. Madara didn't get Hashi's DNA to become stronger than him, he did it to awaken the Rin'negan. lmao actually he beat hashi's ass to High diff without it and

 

[Liquid Snake]

As i said Hashirama was the last one to carry the mantle. After him Ashura's descendants had to rely on Bijuu power and Hagoromo kept Sasuke alive, not the implants from kabuto. They just added to his chakra.



Stealing what powers? Stop reaching for excuses. It was already made clear that the only way they can escape the disease of blindess (something indra never had to worry about) was the join two mangekyo in order to make it like Indras. that's it. Madara didn't get Hashi's DNA to become stronger than him, he did it to awaken the Rin'negan. lmao actually he beat hashi's ass to High diff without it and

First u dumb **** Madara stole Hashi's dna to which he needed to pass hashi and sasuke stole a lot of powers from oro and all with cm and all unlike Indra who didn't need to

 

[SenseiSama]

Weak this is ridiculous, Hashirama attained wood style with sage mode if that's "weak" to you then you're hilarious, especially considering his cells are what kept Sasuke alive

Sage Mode is still not the same as Six Path Senjutsu, and Hashi's bloodline limit comes from Ashura's DNA. #JustSaying

 

[Liquid Snake]

As i said Hashirama was the last one to carry the mantle. After him Ashura's descendants had to rely on Bijuu power and Hagoromo kept Sasuke alive, not the implants from kabuto. They just added to his chakra.



Stealing what powers? Stop reaching for excuses. It was already made clear that the only way they can escape the disease of blindess (something indra never had to worry about) was the join two mangekyo in order to make it like Indras. that's it. Madara didn't get Hashi's DNA to become stronger than him, he did it to awaken the Rin'negan. lmao actually he beat hashi's ass to High diff without it and

First u dumb **** Madara stole Hashi's dna to which he needed to pass hashi and sasuke stole a lot of powers from oro and all with cm and all unlike Indra who didn't need to

 

[SasukeSixPack]

First u dumb **** Madara stole Hashi's dna to which he needed to pass hashi and sasuke stole a lot of powers from oro and all with cm and all unlike Indra who didn't need to

Wrong read the manga. He stole Hashi'd DNA to awaken the Rin'negan. surpassing Hashi was never his issue and he was the only one who could fight at Hashis level. Yet you're such a shitty hypocrite that you woudln't admit naruto needed Kurama to surpass Sasuke and everyone else. Lmfao, no. Sasuke got powers from oro and CM all because Oro was brainwashing him and trying to use him as a vessel. Eaxactly, Indra didn't seek for extra powers to beat Ashura and neither did Sasuke or Madara idiot

 

[Ansatsuken]

Weak thread

 

[SenseiSama]

Exactly.



It is pointless, not surprised though, considering who made the thread.

I don't think OP was referring to their general power, by 'weak' he meant how much power they lost compared to what Ashura originally had.

You've got to consider that Uchiha and Senju/Uzumaki all went through centuries of blood dilution, so logically they would've lost a considerable amount of Indra and Ashura's original power.

Ashura's lineage was divided in two which means Naruto and Hashirama only have half of his DNA, and despite having the highest level of Sage Mode they wouldn't have been able to unlock Six Path Senjutsu naturally.

And the same goes for Uchiha, while Sasuke and Madara both unlocked the Mangekyo's power without restrictions (EMS) both of them lacked the Rikudou chakra Indra possessed.

 

[baul 24]

Maybe Ashura had help from his allies in the battle vs Indra, like they gave him their chakra or something?

yeah pretty much must have lend their power to him to use his bijuu avatar

 

[Honord Sage]

Indra and the Uchiha are weak because they payed attention to Black Zetzu's lies and became His fools.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Ashura didn't beat Indra and he DID use the bijuus.

no he didnt

 

[HashiraMadara]

Ashura never inherited Juubi chakra and Indra inherited potent chakra, the sages eyes and spiritual energy. Not sure where you got that info

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BTW Hashirama >>>> All

 

[Liquid Snake]

Wrong read the manga. He stole Hashi'd DNA to awaken the Rin'negan. surpassing Hashi was never his issue and he was the only one who could fight at Hashis level. Yet you're such a shitty hypocrite that you woudln't admit naruto needed Kurama to surpass Sasuke and everyone else. Lmfao, no. Sasuke got powers from oro and CM all because Oro was brainwashing him and trying to use him as a vessel. Eaxactly, Indra didn't seek for extra powers to beat Ashura and neither did Sasuke or Madara idiot

Naruto when naruto controlled Kurama he was far beyond Sasuke's lvl as sasuke was only a little below kcm with his EMS . Which he needed Itachi's eyes he also needed cm from oro to compete with Naruto in part 1 . And he even said to Obito I need Itachi's eyes to crush naruto u dumb **** that's needed powers then he used all bijuu in the final battle idiot . Madara too needed izuna eyes and even brought Kurama u stupid **** . I admit Kurama does boost naruto up but only because he has Kurama that he didn't need to learn other things like sasuke did to compete his sm is far beyond most chars in NV save Nagato and up . But to say naruto needed Kurama to equal sasuke is dumb when it was Kurama that disturbed his chakra yet sasuke still was out done first against oro then against gaara and then on the roof where sasuke was really unsure if he could beat naruto and when naruto showed confidence that pissed sasuke off so no naruto didn't need Kurama because if they both stayed in the leaf naruto would be far ahead of sasuke without kurama

 

[Liquid Snake]

BTW Hashirama >>>> All

Hashi is by far the best ashura reincarnation Naruto's moves are repetitive and plain hashi had wood release water jutsu and healing and could control tailed beast so yea he is above qll

 

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