[Discussion] If adam and eve story was real what happened to the animals?

[Like Naruto]

What if the animals was punished too? They were banished from the garden of eden after adam and eve was banished.They blame us to what happened to them now, they had a good life in garden of eden, they dont need to starve,but now they have to hunt and kill their fellow animals, see their cubs get killed infront of their eyes and they had to walk away to save the other kids they have, ... Think about it? Hmmm

 

[Blizzard3]

I'm no expert in the story, but wasn't the snake the personification of the devil?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I'm no expert in the story, but wasn't the snake the personification of the devil?

Some interpretations have it as that, but it's described in Genesis 3:1 as "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made." That's King James bible (or at least, what

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said) BTW. I would imagine misspelling subtle isn't part.

 

[HashiraMadara]

The story makes 0 sense because:

* 2 individuals/creatures can't spring a population. That would cause a genetic disaster(That's why a male lion cub needs to leave the family after *** maturing, you marrying outside your family etc.)

* Pregnancy was a punishment to Eve, yet every mammal has a gestation period :sdo:

 

[SZiaee]

The story makes 0 sense because:

* 2 individuals/creatures can't spring a population. That would cause a genetic disaster(That's why a male lion cub needs to leave the family after *** maturing, you marrying outside your family etc.)

* Pregnancy was a punishment to Eve, yet every mammal has a gestation period :sdo:

How was life (men's life , i mean) started on Earth , do you think then ?

 

[Lightbringer]

The story makes 0 sense because:

* 2 individuals/creatures can't spring a population. That would cause a genetic disaster(That's why a male lion cub needs to leave the family after *** maturing, you marrying outside your family etc.)

* Pregnancy was a punishment to Eve, yet every mammal has a gestation period :sdo:

If I'm not mistaken, in the bible, incest was the way for procreation up until Moses. Everyone around the time of Noah and Adam/Eve were superhumans basically because in the bible, as they were stated to live hundreds of years.

It was not considered a sin until God commanded it.

In Judaic scriptures, there was also Lilith, who was Adam's first wife.

 

[kofro]

What if the animals was punished too? They were banished from the garden of eden after adam and eve was banished.They blame us to what happened to them now, they had a good life in garden of eden, they dont need to starve,but now they have to hunt and kill their fellow animals, see their cubs get killed infront of their eyes and they had to walk away to save the other kids they have, ... Think about it? Hmmm

So basically what Christians believe is that after God banished Adam and Eve from Eden, the whole world changed due to sin. God said everything he created was "Good", which means that there was no death yet at that time. So when the original sin happened, everyone and thing was banished and basically animals started to rely on other animals to survive. And that's why there's that verse where it says the lion will soon lay with the lamb, or something like that. So basically we believe that all animals and humans await for the second coming.

But thats one interpretation. I'm more leaning toward the evolution viewpoint where the 7 days of creation are actually just describing the events of the history of the universe. Theres a theory that says that in acient hebrew, there wasn't a word precise enough to describe days, and the closest interpretation was actually "a period of time". So 7 periods of time described the creation of the universe as we know it, humans being the last thing to have evolved persay until the bible's story starts. And we believe that the death of animals isn't actually "bad" because death for animals was a normal thing, but for a creation made in God's image, death was definitely not a good thing.

 

[kofro]

The story makes 0 sense because:

* 2 individuals/creatures can't spring a population. That would cause a genetic disaster(That's why a male lion cub needs to leave the family after *** maturing, you marrying outside your family etc.)

* Pregnancy was a punishment to Eve, yet every mammal has a gestation period :sdo:

Read my reply please. It's after yours btw.

 

[kofro]

So basically what Christians believe is that after God banished Adam and Eve from Eden, the whole world changed due to sin. God said everything he created was "Good", which means that there was no death yet at that time. So when the original sin happened, everyone and thing was banished and basically animals started to rely on other animals to survive. And that's why there's that verse where it says the lion will soon lay with the lamb, or something like that. So basically we believe that all animals and humans await for the second coming.

But thats one interpretation. I'm more leaning toward the evolution viewpoint where the 7 days of creation are actually just describing the events of the history of the universe. Theres a theory that says that in acient hebrew, there wasn't a word precise enough to describe days, and the closest interpretation was actually "a period of time". So 7 periods of time described the creation of the universe as we know it, humans being the last thing to have evolved persay until the bible's story starts. And we believe that the death of animals isn't actually "bad" because death for animals was a normal thing, but for a creation made in God's image, death was definitely not a good thing.

Sorry for posting so much, but one more thing. And that's why I believe something had to start the big bang. I think it takes as much faith to believe that the universe, life, all the plants/animals in the world, and intelligence all started due to one instance of pure randomness and chance as it does believing that someone started it all. We can't even look back to around when the big bang happened because of all the radiation of the beginnings of the universe (i think it was radiation) to accurately describe what happened. And what does Ecclesiastes 3:11 say? "11He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end." Describes perfectly that kind of situation.

 

[BLAZE]

Don't think animals waste their time telling their young ones Bullshit stories of God

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

If I'm not mistaken, in the bible, incest was the way for procreation up until Moses. Everyone around the time of Noah and Adam/Eve were superhumans basically because in the bible, as they were stated to live hundreds of years.

It was not considered a sin until God commanded it.

In Judaic scriptures, there was also Lilith, who was Adam's first wife.

Whether its a sin or not is irrelevant. You can't build a stable population with only two people, because there's not enough genetic diversity.

 

[kofro]

Don't think animals waste their time telling their young ones Bullshit stories of God

They don't need to, they aren't the ones that need to know God is the savior, because it is only humans that sin and are evil. Animals are just animals. And btw, do you know its bullshit? Or, just because you are heavily opinionated on it being bullshit, its suddenly truthly bullshit.

 

[BLAZE]

They don't need to they aren't the ones that need to know God is the savior, because it is only humans that sin and are evil. Animals are just animals.

oh yeah becoz Humans have taken contract of spamming crap all over the world

And btw, do you know its bullshit? Or, just because you are heavily opinionated on it being bullshit, its suddenly truthly bullshit.

Yeah Religious spamming on an online cartoon forum

 

[SZiaee]

Whether its a sin or not is irrelevant. You can't build a stable population with only two people, because there's not enough genetic diversity.

How was man's life started in your opinion ?

 

[kofro]

oh yeah becoz Humans have taken contract of spamming crap all over the world


Yeah Religious spamming on an online cartoon forum

No matter what you believe in, humans are evil, and we're born evil. It's not a contract, its how life works.

An online cartoon forum that has a section for general discussion. Do we not have a right to post what we want in a general discussion?

 

[BLAZE]

No matter what you believe in, humans are evil, and we're born evil.

Yawn
we know dude everyone is born osama

It's not a contract, its how life works.

if that helps u sleep at night

An online cartoon forum that has a section for general discussion. Do we not have a right to post what we want in a general discussion?

Except when its spamming

You already have a triple post in the thread

 

[kofro]

Except when its spamming

You already have a triple post in the thread

"Except when its spamming" Yeah spamming. Whatever helps you sleep at night, right back at ya.

 

[DominiqueX]

It isn't real. No need to think about it actually.

 

[kofro]

It isn't real. No need to think about it actually.

Do you know that though?

 

[HashiraMadara]

If I'm not mistaken, in the bible, incest was the way for procreation up until Moses. Everyone around the time of Noah and Adam/Eve were superhumans basically because in the bible, as they were stated to live hundreds of years.

It was not considered a sin until God commanded it.

In Judaic scriptures, there was also Lilith, who was Adam's first wife.

That's an excuse, tell me who did Cain marry after killing Abel and running away, Before Seth's birth? As the flood killed all but Seth's descendants, so who did Cain marry :sdo: In what community since his parents were the pioneer people...

How was life (men's life , i mean) started on Earth , do you think then ?

Groups, mutations, gene pools etc. A group introduce a new species not an individual or a pair of organism(even the earliest form of life has to be a group of organism regardless of their asexual reproduction) what matter is that they start as a group. To survive Environment changes (adapt) sexual reproduction became a need(you give me what I don't have I give you what you don't have).


Scientifically the whole world comes from 6 African ladies and 1 African guy(these 2 are unrelated). The guy existed earlier than them.

So basically what Christians believe is that after God banished Adam and Eve from Eden, the whole world changed due to sin. God said everything he created was "Good", which means that there was no death yet at that time. So when the original sin happened, everyone and thing was banished and basically animals started to rely on other animals to survive. And that's why there's that verse where it says the lion will soon lay with the lamb, or something like that. So basically we believe that all animals and humans await for the second coming.

But thats one interpretation. I'm more leaning toward the evolution viewpoint where the 7 days of creation are actually just describing the events of the history of the universe. Theres a theory that says that in acient hebrew, there wasn't a word precise enough to describe days, and the closest interpretation was actually "a period of time". So 7 periods of time described the creation of the universe as we know it, humans being the last thing to have evolved persay until the bible's story starts. And we believe that the death of animals isn't actually "bad" because death for animals was a normal thing, but for a creation made in God's image, death was definitely not a good thing.

Still genetic disaster is not avoided in this explanation as well :sdo:
Marrying your sister brings in more harmful traits than preserving "good family" traits :sdo:
For example if I would marry my cousin(I am an albino gene carrier) from dad's side our chances of giving birth to an albino sky rocket.