[Discussion] ichimaru Gin vs Ulquiorra cifer

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So, I was with a friend, and we had this little arguement "who would win if Gin and ulquiorra were to clash? And about what level of difficulty?"
IMO Gin is stronger than all em espada's.
Otaku's what do you think?
 

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Ulqiuorra, he straight up negged Ichigo in his normal form let alone his first and second release, while Ichigo was able to hold his own against Gin for the most part, though it was obvious Gin was superior.
 

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Ulqiuorra, he straight up negged Ichigo in his normal form let alone his first and second release, while Ichigo was able to hold his own against Gin for the most part, though it was obvious Gin was superior.
The "ichigo" who fought Gin was Stronger and more experienced. And was Gin really out for the kill in the fight?
 

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The "ichigo" who fought Gin was Stronger and more experienced. And was Gin really out for the kill in the fight?
Stronger and more experienced? Sorry, but do you have any kind of evidence that it is true? As far as I know, Ichigo didn't used his hollow mask against Gin and was able to keep up with Gin although Gin wasn't really serious. Ulquiorra turned Ichigo into a helpless kitten after his reseruccion and after his second reseruccion it became a one sided annihilation.
 

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The "ichigo" who fought Gin was Stronger and more experienced. And was Gin really out for the kill in the fight?
Not really, Bleach isn't like DBZ where you get stronger after each fight. They train and then they get stronger, in short he wasn't any stronger when he fought Gin. You can also say Ulquiorra was just playing with Ichigo, he didn't truly start trying till Ichigo went all Vasto Lordes.
 
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Stronger and more experienced? Sorry, but do you have any kind of evidence that it is true? As far as I know, Ichigo didn't used his hollow mask against Gin and was able to keep up with Gin although Gin wasn't really serious. Ulquiorra turned Ichigo into a helpless kitten after his reseruccion and after his second reseruccion it became a one sided annihilation.
Not only that he was beating Ichigo easily in his normal state.
 

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Not really, Bleach isn't like DBZ where you get stronger after each fight. They train and then they get stronger, in short he wasn't any stronger when he fought Gin. You can also say Ulquiorra was just playing with Ichigo, he didn't truly start trying till Ichigo went all Vasto Lordes.
Ichigos mask changed so at least that form was stronger. I cant remember if he did or didn't use the mask though.

OT: Gin also coulda roflstomped ichigo if he used his bankais real ability. But IDK if he could hit ulq R2 with that. If he did he would win.
 

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Ichigo was holding his own against Gin, but was getting ragdolled by Ulquiorra. Granted, Gin wasn't serious and didn't use his real ability. Imma go with gin, because Chibi gin makes a better avatar than Chibi ulquiorra.
 
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Stronger and more experienced? Sorry, but do you have any kind of evidence that it is true? As far as I know, Ichigo didn't used his hollow mask against Gin and was able to keep up with Gin although Gin wasn't really serious. Ulquiorra turned Ichigo into a helpless kitten after his reseruccion and after his second reseruccion it became a one sided annihilation.
My bad, my bad! Ulq it is then. That idiot of a friend of mine is so going to enjoy this!:dunno:
 

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People tend to underrate ulquiorra... he had a second transformation not even aizen knew about... he literally negged ichigo...and if it wasnt for vasto lorde(like the strongest form he ever had) he would have won easily...
 

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Stronger and more experienced? Sorry, but do you have any kind of evidence that it is true? As far as I know, Ichigo didn't used his hollow mask against Gin and was able to keep up with Gin although Gin wasn't really serious. Ulquiorra turned Ichigo into a helpless kitten after his reseruccion and after his second reseruccion it became a one sided annihilation.
Ichigo did use his Hollow mask with Gin and Gin never even got serious, we NEVER saw Gin fight seriously.

Honestly, I think Gin could take out Ulq, Gin is faster for one thing, not to mentions his sword can poison you, look what it did to Aizen even if the bastard survived it.

Honestly the Ulq/Ichigo fight only looked so impressive because Ichigo was so intense. In truth, other than firing a green Cero, which Gin would easily avoid, it wasn't that impressive
 

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Ichigo did use his Hollow mask with Gin and Gin never even got serious, we NEVER saw Gin fight seriously.

Honestly, I think Gin could take out Ulq, Gin is faster for one thing, not to mentions his sword can poison you, look what it did to Aizen even if the bastard survived it.

Honestly the Ulq/Ichigo fight only looked so impressive because Ichigo was so intense. In truth, other than firing a green Cero, which Gin would easily avoid, it wasn't that impressive
Just re-read the chapters and Ichigo indeed used his mask, but that was for only one panel though.

And yeah were you expecting an impressive fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra? The first half was Ichigo getting his ass kicked byUlquiorra who was completely out of his league, then Ulquiorra went into his second reseruccion for no reason and the second half was Ulquiorra getting his ass kicked by Hollow Ichigo. Both of them were fighting an opponent who was many times stronger.

Gin vs Ichigo was even worse and that hit on Aizen wasn't even something to call a feat. Attacking somebody who doesn't even care about defending anymore and on top of it when he wasn't even expecting to get hit.

How could you know that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra? As far as I know, I haven't seen anything which make me believe that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra. Just show me one thing which could be used to support your claim that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra, because I haven't seen any feats in the speed category.
 

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Just re-read the chapters and Ichigo indeed used his mask, but that was for only one panel though.

And yeah were you expecting an impressive fight between Ichigo and Ulquiorra? The first half was Ichigo getting his ass kicked byUlquiorra who was completely out of his league, then Ulquiorra went into his second reseruccion for no reason and the second half was Ulquiorra getting his ass kicked by Hollow Ichigo. Both of them were fighting an opponent who was many times stronger.

Gin vs Ichigo was even worse and that hit on Aizen wasn't even something to call a feat. Attacking somebody who doesn't even care about defending anymore and on top of it when he wasn't even expecting to get hit.

How could you know that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra? As far as I know, I haven't seen anything which make me believe that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra. Just show me one thing which could be used to support your claim that Gin is quicker than Ulquiorra, because I haven't seen any feats in the speed category.
Gins sword is quicker than Ulq not him, himself necessarily that we don't know but his sword's extension is too fast.

OT: Gin would win, op don't tell your friend you were wrong he was wrong.
 
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