[Discussion] Ichigo's powers

[gazz uzumaki]

With this latest chapter there are many questions but not enough answers. So to start off I'm going to write what I know are facts.

The Juha bach lookalike inside Ichigo represents his quincy powers

Hollow Ichigo represents Ichigo's shinigami and hollow powers.

With these now being facts, it would also mean that hollow Ichigo existed long before Ichigo entered the shattered shaft. Isshin also confirmed this in chapter 536, here's the link below.

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I also wanted to mention this because the bleach Wikipedia hasn't even bothered to change this, the morons.

Anyway, the Juha bach lookalike has been with Ichigo since he first awakened his shinigami powers, and yet, Ichigo has only just truly awakened his quincy powers when he absorbed some of Quilge's reiatsu. I can only assume that the Juha bach lookalike couldn't use any quincy powers since the memories inside Ichigo's reiatsu was locked away until recently.

With that hollow Tousen named whitey, I guess we now know why Ichigo's bankai blade looked very similar to its own sword-arms. I think there is also a resemblance between Ichigo's shikai and Juha bach's spirit weapon, not to mention Ichigo's former fullbring sword.

I also find it very strange that Ichigo has a spirit that manifests as his quincy powers, seeing as there has been no mention of other quincy having spirits inside them that manifest as their powers. But since Ichigo is the only one of his kind, I suppose anything is possible with him. Next thing we'll know, he'll turn out to be the descendant of the soul king as well!

With me saying that the Juha bach lookalike is a manifestation of Ichigo's quincy powers, it does not mean that it is Juha bach himself, so I don't he'll turn on Ichigo anytime soon. But I do think there's gonna be a long-ass explanation in the next chapter. (hopefully it'll clear a few things.

The biggest question I don't know the answer to is: WHO IS ZANGETSU?

It can be either be A: the Juha bach lookalike, B: the hollow Ichigo, or C: a simple made up name.

 

[Sir Blades]

That part always confuses me, he is the only shinigami with so many spirits in that dam sword.

 

[Silent Zetsu]

Ichigo is just a mess right now

 

[Vandenreich]

Zangetsu is Juha.

 

[Suono]

All of this is just giving me a headache.

 

[bashkim]

It is nonsense the hole story. When he was captured Bach said, that he have awoken in his spirtual pressure his Quiency powers. And now the Zanpakto how use to be Ichigos Shinigami powers where just his Quiency powers.
I don´t get it.

 

[gazz uzumaki]

It is nonsense the hole story. When he was captured Bach said, that he have awoken in his spirtual pressure his Quiency powers. And now the Zanpakto how use to be Ichigos Shinigami powers where just his Quiency powers.
I don´t get it.

That's what I don't get either. How can zangetsu have been with him since the very beginning, if he's only just recently awakened his quincy powers?

 

[adventnova]

Here it is guys. Ichigo has always had his quincy powers active. Thats how he could see ghosts. His father Isshin didnt have enough power to help nullify Ichigo's hidden powers as well as Masaki's, so one of them at least broke free a little. The thing is Ichigo was never able to control them even as they increased in strength, they were just Passively active. Thats how in the first Episode / chapters of the manga he broke Rukia's Kido binding on him. He avoided being cut in half by Aizen at the end of the SS arc and all the way up to when Juha stabbed him in the Neck. Only then did Ichigo notice (because Juha said something) that he used a Quincy ability, but only because it was activated instinctively.

Juha is the Father of All Quincy's, therefore the Quincy King. His blood (Quincy blood) runs through all Quincy's and gives them all their power. So when Quincy powers awaken within a Quincy, Juha's influential presence is in them. In Ichigo's case, it decided to manifest itself when Ichigo awakened his Hollow and Shinigami powers, but pushed aside the hollow. the influential presence happened to trick Ichigo into thinking that it was part of the Hollow inside him and manifested itself as his Zanpakuto and Zangetsu. When in reality as we know it Hichigo told Ichigo from the beginning in Ichigo's inner world that he was Zangetsu himself.

With the Young Juha Bach Quincy Manifestation up on the front seat pushing the Hollow to the back seat, this explains why Hollow Ichigo was pissed off with Ichigo always fighting him and want Old Man Zangetsu's help. Old Man Zangetsu was a fraud and Hichigo knew it.

this is Bleach's biggest character plot twist to date. It maybe hard to wrap your mind around it.