I Wish Naruto was Born Unlucky

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Kishi has thrown hard work out the window. It's all about Genetic lineage and power now after seeing spoiler 673, it reminded of myself why I disliked Naruto so much given all the requirements to be GREAT .... .

I hate the concept of destiny in a series when used like this, it takes away from the characters free will, which in turn takes away from the character

It's a damn shame that a once awesome inspiring main character completely went down to the drain especially this War Arc butchered this character it's not even funny.

I wish Kishi made Naruto like Sakura: a nobody from a no name clan who grew to greatness.
 
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Personally, I have a suspicion that his editors persuaded him to go this route considering how different his themes were in part 1.

Look at all the other top teir shonen manga/ they follow the same archetype.

Ichigo- is shinigami/hollow/bount/Quincy all combined

Luffy- son of Dragon- has the will of D

The only big exception is goku- since he was born with a power level of 5.
 
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Personally, I have a suspicion that his editors persuaded him to go this route considering how different his themes were in part 1.

Look at all the other top teir shonen manga/ they follow the same archetype.

Ichigo- is shinigami/hollow/bount/Quincy all combined

Luffy- son of Dragon- has the will of D

The only big exception is goku- since he was born with a power level of 5.
The will of D doesnt mean much. I mean, luffy trained his df powers and shit, turned a useless df into one of the most powerful.

Ichigo is a big example tho. This *****s is somehow everything combined :I
 

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His parents are dead, the village treated him terrible, and there is an entire army that wants to kill him.

He has had his skin burned off, his best friend tried to kill him, and his teacher is dead.

How is he not unlucky.
 

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what do you mean, he isn't born unlucky. he didn't grow up with his parent because his dad was selfish and didn't want to pay child support without kushina, the third is a lying lazy bum, and his godfather is a lecher who cared more about girls than him.
 

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Kishi has thrown hard work out the window. It's all about Genetic lineage and power now after seeing spoiler 673, it reminded of myself why I disliked Naruto so much given all the requirements to be GREAT .... .

I hate the concept of destiny in a series when used like this, it takes away from the characters free will, which in turn takes away from the character

It's a damn shame that a once awesome inspiring main character completely went down to the drain especially this War Arc butchered this character it's not even funny.

I wish Kishi made Naruto like Sakura: a nobody from a no name clan who grew to greatness.
naruto didn't inherit from his parents do you read the manga ?
 

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His parents are dead, the village treated him terrible, and there is an entire army that wants to kill him.

He has had his skin burned off, his best friend tried to kill him, and his teacher is dead.

How is he not unlucky.
That's not the point of this thread it's all about his main theme concept about hardworking but because he relied on Ninetails too much and because he was prophyzied since he was born and inheirt his go lucky parents, he was always predestineid to do it

what do you mean, he isn't born unlucky. he didn't grow up with his parent because his dad was selfish and didn't want to pay child support without kushina, the third is a lying lazy bum, and his godfather is a lecher who cared more about girls than him.
ok , thats a Fanfaiction for you
 
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Yeah, born with no parents, entire world despised him, raised himself, absolutely 0 skill as a shinobi at first... He's the unluckiest there is.

If you think all this power just fell in Naruto's lap, you're an idiot. He trains til he drops, works hard to protect everyone, and he earned this strength with cooperation, blood, sweat, and tears.

He's the Child of Prophecy BECAUSE of his indomitable will and spirit. Because he'll never settle for less and never allow his connections to break. He embraces his duty to protect the world of his own accord. You don't like it, who cares. But to spout insipid bullshit like this is wrong. You're so far off the mark, it's almost unbelievable.
 
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That's not the point of this thread, please read again.



ok , thats a Fanfaiction for you
I did read it, and you only got mad when Naruto showed up and started dealing with Madara, you were jumping for joy when Might Gai was wiping the floor with Madara.

Oh, I see. I thought that he sounded the same as cattepillar -_-
No caterpillar is actually reasonable.
 

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Yeah, born with no parents, entire world despised him, raised himself, absolutely 0 skill as a shinobi at first... He's the unluckiest there is.

If you think all this power just fell in Naruto's lap, you're an idiot. He trains til he drops, works hard to protect everyone, and he earned this strength with cooperation, blood, sweat, and tears.

He's the Child of Prophecy BECAUSE of his indomitable will and spirit. Because he'll never settle for less and never allow his connections to break. He embraces his duty to protect the world of his own accord. You don't like it, who cares. But to spout insipid bullshit like this is wrong. You're so far off the mark, it's almost unbelievable.

I would definitely say he worked hard for his powers Only throughout Part 1 that is. The only thing in Shippuden that I've seen Naruto bust his ass off for nearly as much as he did back in part 1 was the Rasenshuriken. In my opinion Kishimoto-san changed his ideals towards the series after the time skip.

The problem is the concept of "Destiny;" "Destiny" can be portrayed as like a "Force," this "Force" acts and plays in a way that triggers a series of events that will lead to a predetermined destination in this case since Naruto is the Child of Prophecy many can make the argument that his "Destiny" was to be hated so that he could understand pain, someone (Iruka) would be the one to set him on the path of good, he would slowly, but much faster than anyone unprecedented (You can call this Main character growth) then add in what missions he went on, the life and death moments, the people he has met, the people he has battled and the things he has said, since there is a being who can tell prophecies and foresee futures that means that everything Naruto has done has been guided by the invisible hand of destiny
 

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No caterpillar is actually reasonable.
Yeah, I didn't mean it like that. I was talking about his part 1 nostalgia and the way he talks about hardwork etc. I just thought it was similiar to catterpillar in a way and then you said that he's a rock lee and Gai fanboy. No disrespect to catterpillar...
 

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The will of D doesnt mean much. I mean, luffy trained his df powers and shit, turned a useless df into one of the most powerful.

Ichigo is a big example tho. This *****s is somehow everything combined :I
The will D doesn't meant anything?
Every person with the will of D is strong in OP.
 
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