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that after the war and TL being the middle of it was a time naruto and sasuke were honing their skills. both naruto and sasuke eventually during the time before bourto was born reached their prime, peak, limit, climax in skill, power, and mastery. we always get reminded by kurama how rusty naruto has gotten m that same could be said about sasuke. naruto is around 33 and sasuke 32ish ... those are some old Gs .

if this is true then lets put something in prospective...

4 kages with some assistance were able to deal with kinshiki

sasuke alone was able to hold himself well agianst kinshiki solo

naruto and sasuke stomped momo

naruto and sasuke high diff stomped momokinshi

now if either prime naruto or prime sasuke were to fight momokinshi 1v1 would they be on par or how diff would the fight be... cuz i know in hell if prime naruto or prime sasuke fought momo or kinshiki the alien would be dead maybe high diff but not close to low diff. im just wondering because thier prime forms mustve been atleast a few kages lvls above what they are now in bourto....right?

i think we should get a story of them in their primes.
 

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what do you mean?
30 yrs old is your prime, and there is no way that a younger version of themselves would stand up to them now
 

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that after the war and TL being the middle of it was a time naruto and sasuke were honing their skills. both naruto and sasuke eventually during the time before bourto was born reached their prime, peak, limit, climax in skill, power, and mastery. we always get reminded by kurama how rusty naruto has gotten m that same could be said about sasuke. naruto is around 33 and sasuke 32ish ... those are some old Gs .

if this is true then lets put something in prospective...

4 kages with some assistance were able to deal with kinshiki

sasuke alone was able to hold himself well agianst kinshiki solo

naruto and sasuke stomped momo

naruto and sasuke high diff stomped momokinshi

now if either prime naruto or prime sasuke were to fight momokinshi 1v1 would they be on par or how diff would the fight be... cuz i know in hell if prime naruto or prime sasuke fought momo or kinshiki the alien would be dead maybe high diff but not close to low diff. im just wondering because thier prime forms mustve been atleast a few kages lvls above what they are now in bourto....right?

i think we should get a story of them in their primes.
Kurama said it once, when it’s nobody to fight how can you not get a little rusty pretty sure he’s not the only... and had to add that sasuke was born before naruto so how is he younger
 

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Eh? Even in vote2 we never saw naruto fight like that, he might of had more raw power then, but he’s def a much better fighter now than he was then, sasukes pretty much the same but he uses ameno a lot more, and seems to use raiton to amp his speed, or attacks I guess, or both lol(this might just be effects, but seeing as how his affinity is raiton, I’ll go with it)
 
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Unnerfed Sasuke or Naruto would even stomp FusedMomoshiki alone - I dont know about Kyuubi avatar but it seems that it was losing against that stone giant, but Sasuke PS is fast and could easily blitzed it and cut it in 100 pieces in seconds just like he did against meteors
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Unnerfed Sasuke or Naruto would even stomp FusedMomoshiki alone - I dont know about Kyuubi avatar but it seems that it was losing against that stone giant, but Sasuke PS is fast and could easily blitzed it and cut it in 100 pieces in seconds just like he did against metetors
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I think the whole point of them combining the 2 was cause neither one would of done the job on its own, unless for some reason you think 100% Kurama isn’t comparable to PS after weve been shown the opposite numerous times
 

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I think the whole point of them combining the 2 was cause neither one would of done the job on its own, unless for some reason you think 100% Kurama isn’t comparable to PS after weve been shown the opposite numerous times
I still think that PS would kill stone giant because Sasuke's PS is fast unlike Madara's - but if you look at Sasuke shinden Sasuke's PS is kinda nerfed and seems slow. (i hate nerfs)

And Susano'o Sword > Kyuubi punch
 

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I still think that PS would kill stone giant because Sasuke's PS is fast unlike Madara's - but if you look at Sasuke shinden Sasuke's PS is kinda nerfed and seems slow. (i hate nerfs)

And Susano'o Sword > Kyuubi punch
A damn golem caught a much bigger susanoo sword than sasukes but 100% Kurama can’t? Come on be realistic. We just gonna ignore them power matching in vote2? It took sasuke to take in the bijuu to overpower 50% Kurama and smack him around like nothing. The power of the 2 avatars is very, very close, with it being arguable that susanoo has the better defense and Kurama a more powerful offense(I didn’t say better, just more raw power to put into it)
 

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that after the war and TL being the middle of it was a time naruto and sasuke were honing their skills. both naruto and sasuke eventually during the time before bourto was born reached their prime, peak, limit, climax in skill, power, and mastery. we always get reminded by kurama how rusty naruto has gotten m that same could be said about sasuke. naruto is around 33 and sasuke 32ish ... those are some old Gs .

if this is true then lets put something in prospective...

4 kages with some assistance were able to deal with kinshiki

sasuke alone was able to hold himself well agianst kinshiki solo

naruto and sasuke stomped momo

naruto and sasuke high diff stomped momokinshi

now if either prime naruto or prime sasuke were to fight momokinshi 1v1 would they be on par or how diff would the fight be... cuz i know in hell if prime naruto or prime sasuke fought momo or kinshiki the alien would be dead maybe high diff but not close to low diff. im just wondering because thier prime forms mustve been atleast a few kages lvls above what they are now in bourto....right?

i think we should get a story of them in their primes.
Bold: Sasuke is older than Naruto. Anyway, the Momoshiki arc takes place 15 years after the war (in which Naruto turned 17), so at the point of the Momoshiki arc, Naruto and Sasuke are both 32 (give or take, depending on whether or not their birthdays for that year had come already).

Now in the manga, they are 33 (the current manga arc is 16 years after the war, making it one year after the Momoshiki arc).
 

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I still think that PS would kill stone giant because Sasuke's PS is fast unlike Madara's - but if you look at Sasuke shinden Sasuke's PS is kinda nerfed and seems slow. (i hate nerfs)

And Susano'o Sword > Kyuubi punch
Sasuke ps is more Swift fast and agile than madaras..madaras ps is just bigger and slightly stronger.

Naruto avatar is equal to Sasuke ps. U really think Naruto went all out with that stone giant??? I didn't see him make not one avatar clone or tbb.
 

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A damn golem caught a much bigger susanoo sword than sasukes but 100% Kurama can’t? Come on be realistic. We just gonna ignore them power matching in vote2? It took sasuke to take in the bijuu to overpower 50% Kurama and smack him around like nothing. The power of the 2 avatars is very, very close, with it being arguable that susanoo has the better defense and Kurama a more powerful offense(I didn’t say better, just more raw power to put into it)
Explain me this. In the war arc legged susano'o was the same size as Kyuubi
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but at the vote 2 fight PS was the same size as Kyuubi?
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Explain me this. In the war arc legged susano'o was the same size as Kyuubi
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but at the vote 2 fight PS was the same size as Kyuubi?
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I dunno, I honestly don’t think sasukes ps is that much bigger than his legged, a lot more powerful yes, but it only seems marginally bigger to me, I could be wrong though. Either way what does size have to do with it? For all we know it could be an oversight(as many other things during the war arc) or they did it on purpose for the whole “equals” thing.

Tbh I always thought they power scaled naruto weirdly after 100% Kurama. There should be a difference, he didn’t get a portion, he wasn’t missing a tiny amount, it was f cking half

Side note: they could of done half Kurama is equal to legged and full Kurama is equal to ps but nardo still only had half in vote2
 
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I dunno, I honestly don’t think sasukes ps is that much bigger than his legged, a lot more powerful yes, but it only seems marginally bigger to me, I could be wrong though. Either way what does size have to do with it? For all we know it could be an oversight(as many other things during the war arc) or they did it on purpose for the whole “equals” thing.

Tbh I always thought they power scaled naruto weirdly after 100% Kurama. There should be a difference, he didn’t get a portion, he wasn’t missing a tiny amount, it was f cking half

Side note: they could of done half Kurama is equal to legged and full Kurama is equal to ps but nardo still only had half in vote2
Nerf. They can’t give him anymore power on top of what he had with just half of Kurama already.
 

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I dunno, I honestly don’t think sasukes ps is that much bigger than his legged, a lot more powerful yes, but it only seems marginally bigger to me, I could be wrong though. Either way what does size have to do with it? For all we know it could be an oversight(as many other things during the war arc) or they did it on purpose for the whole “equals” thing.

Tbh I always thought they power scaled naruto weirdly after 100% Kurama. There should be a difference, he didn’t get a portion, he wasn’t missing a tiny amount, it was f cking half

Side note: they could of done half Kurama is equal to legged and full Kurama is equal to ps but nardo still only had half in vote2
Bold: Honestly, I say that they power scaled Naruto stupidly after the war. Once Naruto got RSM, they should have just kept him as using that form (with the same design and the truth seeking balls and all) up into adulthood.

Instead however, they decided to do this bull crap by having adult Naruto use either BSM (but without the pigmentation) or a Kurama chakara only RSM.

What the hell was Kishi thinking? Sometimes I really think he just hated the idea of Naruto being strong and using more than just basic stuff.
 

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Nerf. They can’t give him anymore power on top of what he had with just half of Kurama already.
That’s what it seems like, I mean, technically they could just say it doubled his combined chakra(or at least kuramas portion) but holy shit more chakra to use = more options during battle, or just straight up stronger techs.

Bold: Honestly, I say that they power scaled Naruto stupidly after the war. Once Naruto got RSM, they should have just kept him as using that form (with the same design and the truth seeking balls and all) up into adulthood.

Instead however, they decided to do this bull crap by having adult Naruto use either BSM (but without the pigmentation) or a Kurama chakara only RSM.

What the hell was Kishi thinking? Sometimes I really think he just hated the idea of Naruto being strong and using more than just basic stuff.
Bsm without pigmentation just f cks with people wanting to simply know if he still has rsm. If you rewatch the ep, when naruto and sasuke clash with momo right before they power up, you see the pigmentation before he hits bsm. It’s POSSIBLE they can explain away pigmentation by him being better, but we’re also told in ship that naruto and minato with the pigmentation they had where already perfect sages if not damn near.

Personally I think they should just tell us that he still has parts of the power he had. Like maybe he no longer has the “so6p chakra mode” but still has a bit of the rsm.. or he just still has rsm and lost the chakra avatar and just has to use it with bm. I would just like to know to know lol
 

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Well, when there is a long period of peace and not a need for training, obvious you will rusty. I wish Naruto had ended after the final vol. That is, no Boruto.
 
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