I want to go to Hell

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I realized a long time ago I'd rather go to hell than heaven. I'm not really into worshiping (this is purely form an Abrahamic god stand point) some dude for the rest of eternity. I disagree with god's morals of sending good people to hell. Like the Dalai Lama. I'm also against having such a radical shift in consciousness. The whole god's glory is so great thing doesn't pull shit for me I would need to bea able to review and critically asses his actions, (which I have done insofar as the bible goes) and then I would make the choice for myself. I think Satan might have been the good guy and realized that god was an arrogant prick. and so he decided to give man consciousness and thought. (like Prometheus) and then got a bad rep for it.

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So because you don't agree God's morals and reasoning you decided that you wanted to go to Hell because think Satan might have been the good guy? It's too early for this f*ckery.

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Go find a different religion that you can agree with instead wanting be damned to Hell because you think God isn't what people make him out to be.
 

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When I think of Hell I think of pain beyond imagination, I don't think anyone "wants" to go there.
 
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I realized a long time ago I'd rather go to hell than heaven. I'm not really into worshiping (this is purely form an Abrahamic god stand point) some dude for the rest of eternity. I disagree with god's morals of sending good people to hell. Like the Dalai Lama. I'm also against having such a radical shift in consciousness. The whole god's glory is so great thing doesn't pull shit for me I would need to bea able to review and critically asses his actions, (which I have done insofar as the bible goes) and then I would make the choice for myself. I think Satan might have been the good guy and realized that god was an arrogant prick. and so he decided to give man consciousness and thought. (like Prometheus) and then got a bad rep for it.

Thoughts, discussion
Peace, Salam, Heping

ok, the whole reason why I am agnostic is because I really don't follow what bullshit religion feeds people nowadays.

I've always seen them as political tools to control the masses, ergo it was an ancient political sect, although it was not intended for it.
It has long been manipulated by humankind that only scraps of it remains true.

As for heaven and hell, where did you ever get the idea that God sends good people to Hell?
Nor will going to Heaven be about worshiping God for all eternity?

Hell is a place where you don't ever WANT to be. It isn't just about being burned and such. The image of Hell that most people refer to is from Dante's inferno. It could be anything.

Heaven and Hell is a special place where you go suited just for you. Heaven is where all you WANT and NEED happens and Hell is where things you DON'T WANT and NEED happens.

We could even take a look at other religion for that matter in terms of talking about heaven and hell.

In Norse pagan religion, many considers going to Valhalla as their heaven. If you don't know, it is where they would go to feast then kill each other only to do it the next day.
Some considers that hell.

So if you have a terrible fear of puppies, your hell might involved of getting cuddled by puppies for all eternity, what most would consider heaven.

Or if you are one sick twisted person but somehow you got into heaven, maybe being whipped and chained is your heaven.


Also there is no good or bad in the actions of the higher powers.

Think about it. Humankind think they are above all and their actions have no consequences and should karma bite us, we often see ourselves victimized.

Take a murderer for example, should that murderer be judged and punished, would you think that that punishment is fair?
Most cases, you'd expect them to lash out and such.

Plus it is all BS. They say there is only one God but then WTF is the Devil?

Why does God have a Satan, a rival, an adversary? It doesn't make sense.

This is why I see religion as it is, just a tool to control the stupid because if there is one God, there would be no counterpart.

Also why do we see this divine being to just serve us? To be judged by us, whether the action was a benevolent one or malevolent.
Who said that our judgement is better than God's.

God does not serve us. We are one of the creations, we are nothing. So how the heck do people think that God exists to serve us? Should God not comply to our whims and wishes, then God is cruel and malevolent. If God is then, God is The Devil.
But what does The Devil really do?

The Devil punishes the wicked, the sinners. The Devil tests humankind on whether or not they would submit to their destructive whims and wishes. The Devil is that of a teacher that would tests us and teaches us lessons should one become selfish.
The Devil is not evil incarnate nor is God good.

We base these things off of our own ego.
Humans are monsters that would even go on and defile the image of God for the sake of wanting to be right. That the actions made by God against humankind is wrong and The Devil evil because they are punished for doing something bad.

People are weird monsters.
 

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Hell > Heaven! I agree with that part.. there's some good people in hell that I would like to meet!
but I don't agree with Satan being better than God/Jehovah/Allah.. they're all equally bad and have a ****ed up personalities and they deserve to be burnt in hell for all eternity !
 
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ok, the whole reason why I am agnostic is because I really don't follow what bullshit religion feeds people nowadays.

I've always seen them as political tools to control the masses, ergo it was an ancient political sect, although it was not intended for it.
It has long been manipulated by humankind that only scraps of it remains true.

As for heaven and hell, where did you ever get the idea that God sends good people to Hell?
Nor will going to Heaven be about worshiping God for all eternity?

Hell is a place where you don't ever WANT to be. It isn't just about being burned and such. The image of Hell that most people refer to is from Dante's inferno. It could be anything.

Heaven and Hell is a special place where you go suited just for you. Heaven is where all you WANT and NEED happens and Hell is where things you DON'T WANT and NEED happens.

We could even take a look at other religion for that matter in terms of talking about heaven and hell.

In Norse pagan religion, many considers going to Valhalla as their heaven. If you don't know, it is where they would go to feast then kill each other only to do it the next day.
Some considers that hell.

So if you have a terrible fear of puppies, your hell might involved of getting cuddled by puppies for all eternity, what most would consider heaven.

Or if you are one sick twisted person but somehow you got into heaven, maybe being whipped and chained is your heaven.


Also there is no good or bad in the actions of the higher powers.

Think about it. Humankind think they are above all and their actions have no consequences and should karma bite us, we often see ourselves victimized.

Take a murderer for example, should that murderer be judged and punished, would you think that that punishment is fair?
Most cases, you'd expect them to lash out and such.

Plus it is all BS. They say there is only one God but then WTF is the Devil?

Why does God have a Satan, a rival, an adversary? It doesn't make sense.

This is why I see religion as it is, just a tool to control the stupid because if there is one God, there would be no counterpart.

Also why do we see this divine being to just serve us? To be judged by us, whether the action was a benevolent one or malevolent.
Who said that our judgement is better than God's.

God does not serve us. We are one of the creations, we are nothing. So how the heck do people think that God exists to serve us? Should God not comply to our whims and wishes, then God is cruel and malevolent. If God is then, God is The Devil.
But what does The Devil really do?

The Devil punishes the wicked, the sinners. The Devil tests humankind on whether or not they would submit to their destructive whims and wishes. The Devil is that of a teacher that would tests us and teaches us lessons should one become selfish.
The Devil is not evil incarnate nor is God good.

We base these things off of our own ego.
Humans are monsters that would even go on and defile the image of God for the sake of wanting to be right. That the actions made by God against humankind is wrong and The Devil evil because they are punished for doing something bad.

People are weird monsters.

This was a good and enlightening read.
 

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So because you don't agree God's morals and reasoning you decided that you wanted to go to Hell because think Satan might have been the good guy? It's too early for this f*ckery.

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Go find a different religion that you can agree with instead wanting be damned to Hell because you think God isn't what people make him out to be.

How can his own perspective, and basis of opinion be considered fuckery? That's stupid as shit, why do you think Satanist are a thing smh.

@OP: Do you bruh, I doubt any of this religious shit exist honestly, seen to much, and experienced so much shit in my life, and I've prayed everyday yet the only one to make things happen was myself.
 

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Hell > Heaven! I agree with that part.. there's some good people in hell that I would like to meet!
but I don't agree with Satan being better than God/Jehovah/Allah.. they're all equally bad and have a ****ed up personalities and they deserve to be burnt in hell for all eternity !

Seeing you are using Muslim username or actually a former Muslim with Muslim name and said something like this sure makes me really Mad. And your Ava adding more fuel to it.

I still can tolerate if non-muslim said it.
 

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oh if you're not one of those people who are very sensitive to discuss or intrigue themselves based on stigma, check out LaVeyan Satanism.

I didn't really go much into it but like I said, they are mainly political tools etc. Especially when they start talking about rituals and magic.
then again they might have a different definition of it. Didn't really look into it. So I just went with the cores of it.

The Eleven Rules of the Earth
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them

love the destroy part of it XD

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Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics
 

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How can his own perspective, and basis of opinion be considered fuckery? That's stupid as shit, why do you think Satanist are a thing smh.

@OP: Do you bruh, I doubt any of this religious shit exist honestly, seen to much, and experienced so much shit in my life, and I've prayed everyday yet the only one to make things happen was myself.

I think that's when the misconception starts. People think that God will hand things to them and all that.
No, it is heavily implied that God only opens doors, gives one opportunities, you yourself actually have to go through the doorway.
You know, freewill and what not.

Like I'm pretty sure I'm a very lucky guy but I just don't think so because I deny myself those opportunities all the time, whether I'm aware of it or not.

Pretty sure a lot of people do too. Perhaps you as well all because we don't know or we simply can't see it due to our own perspective not letting us.

It's like this: if a bear farts in the middle of the forest and no one was around to hear/smell it, does the fart really existed?

only the bear truly knows but as of the outside, it might as well not have existed at all. These are like those "unanswered" prayers are like in my perspective. We simply do not know what form they might exist, should they exist. So we tend to pass these things up. Or we have certain expectations and those "blessings" did not meet those expectations so we think it as something else.
 

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There is really no need to say something that you'll regret about in the future....and just stop imagining that Hell is something that you will ever like...or feel comfortable in it.....do you know how many or how painful or even what kind of torments in there?....
I will just give you an advice and it is simply "DELETE THIS THREAD"
 
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