I want to ask this question

[Ansatsuken]

lol , again , lol.
You are so funny.

You're still saying BS about my first post, so it's not the end of the "discussion".

You know that you don't have to use the word "probable" or "possibility" to bring hypothesis?
I clearly brought an hypothesis in my first post , you took it as if I stated it , but you should work on your english understanding , because you don't understand english if you did't understand that I brought an hypothesis.


For the 6th time , I never tried to prove you something , I never wanted you to believe or be convinced by my post , my goal was to open your mind to a new possibility , what a stupid idea.

Its is because Im to sensitive about power level/chakra level in NV.

I dont care if it just hypothesis or not, I just care to know the reason. Because in Hypothesis/Theory reason still needed to be provided by the Theory maker.

But atlest you finally gave you reasoning although it take you number of post after accused me with no reason and also unable to understand what actually Im saying in my reply post about Kaguya and Hagoromo after you giving me so called 'understandable' explanation how Prime Hagoromo way stronger than Kaguya. I understand your assumption but you not understand mine.

Another thing you should know is, Kaguya not just got large chakra reserve, but she has very powerful techniques also that can end Naruto if there is no support, Remember scene at Gravity dimension. No one can escape that dimension gravitational pull even for someone that can fly like Kaguya and Naruto. What will happen if Naruto is alone there. I think you know the answer unless you are bias member.

Remember not everytime Shinobi got a partner to fight with someone, what if they must fight alone especially against Kaguya.

I said earlier Kaguya arc is BS, Kaguya can kill them without much difficulty without bias plot writing.

Sure you unable to give any proof because you not the author of this manga, but how you able to make a speculation that Hago just giving them little powerup without concrete reason. That is your theory. Theory/hypothesis can be argue/challenge by many. Look how many people challenged many theory some people here made like Hagoromo is Uzumaki theory, Yata theory etc even until now.

Look at the meaning of Hyphotesis:-

hypothesis
hʌɪˈpɒθɪsɪs/Submit
noun
a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

"his ‘steady state’ hypothesis of the origin of the universe"
synonyms: theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition; More

Read the bold clearly and keep it in your mind

Instead of giving proper answer/discussion, you went with insulting/looking at my fault first, you think you doesnt any fault here but I have no time to explain your fault here

Thats all. Mod can lock this thread now. There nothing more to discuss with this no shame and delusional member.

 

[davidou]

Its is because Im to sensitive about power level/chakra level in NV.

I understood that.

I dont care if it just hypothesis or not, I just care to know the reason. Because in Hypothesis/Theory reason still needed to be provided by the Theory maker.

I gave my reasons in the first post.

But atlest you finally gave you reasoning although it take you number of post after accused me with no reason and also unable to understand what actually Im saying in my reply post about Kaguya and Hagoromo after you giving me so called 'understandable' explanation how Prime Hagoromo way stronger than Kaguya. I understand your assumption but you not understand mine.

I finally gave you nothing , you just understood my 1st post now.
I replied to your assumption , remember quality can beat quantity.
Now that you understood my post , we may have a discussion.

Another thing you should know is, Kaguya not just got large chakra reserve, but she has very powerful techniques also that can end Naruto if there is no support, Remember scene at Gravity dimension. No one can escape that dimension gravitational pull even for someone that can fly like Kaguya and Naruto. What will happen if Naruto is alone there. I think you know the answer unless you are bias member.

Remember not everytime Shinobi got a partner to fight with someone, what if they must fight alone especially against Kaguya.

I said earlier Kaguya arc is BS, Kaguya can kill them without much difficulty without bias plot writing.

Sure , Kaguya is strong.

Sure you unable to give any proof because you not the author of this manga, but how you able to make a speculation that Hago just giving them little powerup without concrete reason.That is your theory. Theory/hypothesis can be argue/challenge by many. Look how many people challenged many theory some people here made like Hagoromo is Uzumaki theory, Yata theory etc even until now.

Why don't you agree with my reasons?
I gave you 3 signs that Hagoromo could still have power after the NaruSasu gift.

Look at the meaning of Hyphotesis:-

hypothesis
hʌɪˈpɒθɪsɪs/Submit
noun
a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

"his ‘steady state’ hypothesis of the origin of the universe"
synonyms: theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presumption, presupposition; More

Read the bold clearly and keep it in your mind

Instead of giving proper answer/discussion, you went with insulting/looking at my fault first, you think you doesnt any fault here but I have no time to explain your fault here

Thats all. Mod can lock this thread now. There nothing more to discuss with this no shame and delusional member.

Insulting?
Wow , I was very calm , unlike you , who were aggressive.

 

[Seventh Sama]

It's unknown if having hagoromo's chakra is permanent but he'll replenish his chakra.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I understood that.



I gave my reasons in the first post.



I finally gave you nothing , you just understood my 1st post now.
I replied to your assumption , remember quality can beat quantity.
Now that you understood my post , we may have a discussion.



Sure , Kaguya is strong.




Why don't you agree with my reasons?
I gave you 3 signs that Hagoromo could still have power after the NaruSasu gift.



Insulting?
Wow , I was very calm , unlike you , who were aggressive.

Im aggressive?, I dont know which part but just ignore that.

Also just ignore our past confrontation here.

Let we start with actual tòpic to discuss.

But first set your mind that this topic is about current Hagoromo(non Jin Hagoromo) not Prime Hagoromo(Juubi jin Hagoromo).

The question of this thread about members that like to said Hagoromo give half of his power to NaruSasu. Im asked this question because Im curious about it.

There are members that said in here that Hagoromo give all of his power to them, half to Naruto and Half to Sasuke.

There are member that said the quantity is unknown or cant be calculate

And I never disagree with your speculation/answer on Hagoromo power up to NaruSasu, I just disagree with you regarding Hagoromo and Kaguya. But just forget that forever.

Plus I only want your explanation/reason regarding 'little power up'. But I can see its to relative as you said. But even if its relative how you can speculate the power up Hago gave to little,Lol

But in my Thread post, I said "if Hago gave all his power to them he will become fodder" but Im also speculated that Hago just gave 80% of his power to NaruSasu, its because Hago still can summon previous Kages but with Edo Hokages help, He also able to send Edo Hokages back to pure world, Used large scale Kuchiyose no Jutsu, got back his yin-yang seal, still had TSB and his stuff(this is your reason right)

But why I think Hago gave large percentage of his chakra and power to NaruSasu? its because he left with little chakra after that, he told this to Edo Hokages right after he appeared infront of them(You may remember this right?)

But I will tell you this assumption of mind, I dont know if you will agree with me or not. Most of members here maybe didnt get the idea, Hagoromo actually gave NaruSasu some/small part of his abilities not half. What actually he gave them in large percentage was his Rikudou Chakra/energy, they both got half of that chakra.

What do you think?

 

[davidou]

Im aggressive?, I dont know which part but just ignore that.

Also just ignore our past confrontation here.

No problem.

Let we start with actual tòpic to discuss.

But first set your mind that this topic is about current Hagoromo(non Jin Hagoromo) not Prime Hagoromo(Juubi jin Hagoromo).

The question of this thread about members that like to said Hagoromo give half of his power to NaruSasu. Im asked this question because Im curious about it.

There are members that said in here that Hagoromo give all of his power to them, half to Naruto and Half to Sasuke.

There are member that said the quantity is unknown or cant be calculate

And I never disagree with your speculation/answer on Hagoromo power up to NaruSasu, I just disagree with you regarding Hagoromo and Kaguya. But just forget that forever.

Plus I only want your explanation/reason regarding 'little power up'. But I can see its to relative as you said. But even if its relative how you can speculate the power up Hago gave to little,Lol

Sorry for that , that was my mistake , I should have said "a part of his powers" (between 1 and 99%).

But in my Thread post, I said "if Hago gave all his power to them he will become fodder" but Im also speculated that Hago just gave 80% of his power to NaruSasu, its because Hago still can summon previous Kages but with Edo Hokages help, He also able to send Edo Hokages back to pure world, Used large scale Kuchiyose no Jutsu, got back his yin-yang seal, still had TSB and his stuff(this is your reason right)

But why I think Hago gave large percentage of his chakra and power to NaruSasu? its because he left with little chakra after that, he told this to Edo Hokages right after he appeared infront of them(You may remember this right?)

But I will tell you this assumption of mind, I dont know if you will agree with me or not. Most of members here maybe didnt get the idea, Hagoromo actually gave NaruSasu some/small part of his abilities not half. What actually he gave them in large percentage was his Rikudou Chakra/energy, they both got half of that chakra.

What do you think?

I agree with you , the fact that Hagoromo makes unbelievable jutsus after the gift , is a sign that Hagoromo didn't give all his powers to NaruSasu.
Finding the percentage is too hard , I won't be shocked if it is revealed that he gave 10% of his power/jutsu , I won't be shocked if it is revealed that he gave 90% of his power/jutsus.

Here is the scan where Hago talks about a limit:

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Gamakichi also says that when his summoning time is going to end.
It could be the limit of the jutsu that he uses to come on Earth , like for Gamakichi.
Or that sort of kuchiyose from the other world must consume big chakra , and he reached his limit of chakra , but who knows how much chakra his crazy technique consumes , we are talking about a guy that is dead , or between this and the other world for centuries.

Is Hagoromo from the impure world as strong as prime living Hagoromo (without beasts)?Impossible to answer , but I don't see why he would.


Looking for that previous scan , I found a scan where Hagoromo says that he did some research over the IT after sealing his mother.

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It's probable that he understood lots of things after that (things that we don't know a thing about) , like the mecanisms of ninshuu and COAT and how to defeat the rabbit.
Like Orochimaru likes to say "knowledge can be more powerfull than weapons" , who knows how much knowledge Hagoromo has?

 

[Ansatsuken]

No problem.




Sorry for that , that was my mistake , I should have said "a part of his powers" (between 1 and 99%).



I agree with you , the fact that Hagoromo makes unbelievable jutsus after the gift , is a sign that Hagoromo didn't give all his powers to NaruSasu.
Finding the percentage is too hard , I won't be shocked if it is revealed that he gave 10% of his power/jutsu , I won't be shocked if it is revealed that he gave 90% of his power/jutsus.

Here is the scan where Hago talks about a limit:

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Gamakichi also says that when his summoning time is going to end.
It could be the limit of the jutsu that he uses to come on Earth , like for Gamakichi.
Or that sort of kuchiyose from the other world must consume big chakra , and he reached his limit of chakra , but who knows how much chakra his crazy technique consumes , we are talking about a guy that is dead , or between this and the other world for centuries.

Is Hagoromo from the impure world as strong as prime living Hagoromo (without beasts)?Impossible to answer , but I don't see why he would.


Looking for that previous scan , I found a scan where Hagoromo says that he did some research over the IT after sealing his mother.

You must be registered for see images

It's probable that he understood lots of things after that (things that we don't know a thing about) , like the mecanisms of ninshuu and COAT and how to defeat the rabbit.
Like Orochimaru likes to say "knowledge can be more powerfull than weapons" , who knows how much knowledge Hagoromo has?

Hagoromo sure know many thing, And I speculate that current Hagoromo is more knowledgeable compared to his prime time but not above his prime self in power. If he get the Juubi sure current Hagoromo tier above his Prime self.

Hagoromo abilities is diverse, when he can give Sasuke Amenotejikara, what make people think he cant used Amenotejikara.

As he Possibly continue his research on many thing from Real world, between Dimensions and Pure world and in current time he already witnessed his mother capabilities. Yes as I stated before if Hago not having any idea about Kaguya abilities, he sure will have hard time to prepare properly to fight Kaguya but I think he finally knew his mother power and what Juubi was. He will continue his research and create new ability but manga already end.

Yeah, I do think his outerworld techniques consumed his chakra reserve also.