I Understand the Izanami

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Keytaro

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I understand what you're saying but can't Kabuto just startvthe Edo Tensei again?

If he stops it due Izanami, Sasuke can just kill Kabuto off while he's stil under genjutsu before Kabuto will be able to use it again...
 
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remember...even if killed edo tensei will not end. What if kabuto just decides to kill himself? Seems like the perfect time to off him after going thru his history and all.

i was just gonna say that too, that would make for a cool twist.
 

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how is this a theory? Obviously that is what happened. How else would you explain the loop. and the whole deciding destiny BS. The true theory should be behind how did he catch Kabuto under a gengutsu to begin with. That I have no clue....The rest is easy to understand....Derp.
 

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its only theory that he only has one choice. The loop that's shown is kabuto attacks, itachi turns to crows ..then reset. There is no proof that it will reset if he does nothing or tries to kill himself. besides, if Edo ends the corpses turn to ash, at least that's my understanding. I just don't think he will chose to end it just to continue fighting that would pretty much destroy his army. Kabuto & tobi can't win alone. There have been numerous 'absolute' techniques that have been exposed not to be. Great theory, but I just do see it ending like that and I think the kage battle is far from over.
 

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Why doesn't Kabuto just recast it after releasing it.
 

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I think that Itachi set Kabuto's "fate" to be that he has to kill Itachi to get out of the loop. But since Itachi is an Edo, Kabuto CAN'T kill him, so the only way that Kabuto can get out of the loop is to release Edo, therefore "killing" Itachi.

Basically the same idea behind your theory, but I like that one a little bit better, makes more sense than just Itachi setting Kabuto's fate as ending Edo.

Also, that plays in nicely with Itachi saying chapters ago that Itachi himself is the weakness of Edo Tensei. Which is amazingly perfectly true. Itachi knew all along that Izanami was the only way to beat Kabuto, and that Izanami would really only work if he himself was an Edo Tensei. So Itachi saying that Edo Tensei's weakness is Itachi as an Edo...If Itachi was not an Edo, Izanami would not work as well since if Itachi wouldn't be able to get stabbed so many times in the loop and regenerate, but since he IS an Edo, the loop works out perfect. I don't know, just blows my mind.

Edit: Oh and to everyone saying why doesn't Kabuto just recast edo after releasing it. It is not that easy. Kabuto completely releasing Edo is NOT just say Edo Madara going into his coffin and getting sent away, or Itachi getting put into a coffin and getting sent away. Kabuto releasing Edo would mean that the SOUL would stop being bound to the living person that is it being bound to, and going back to the Pure World. Which means that Kabuto would need to first find more living sacrifices to bind the soul to, AND most likely get more of the DNA of that person he wants to bring back to the Impure World. So he would have to go find more DNA of Madara, and Muu, and Itachi if he wants to bring Itachi back. THEN go find 3 more living sacrifices to bind the DNA onto, then do the whole ritual that he showed Tobi. THEN he would have his Edo's back. It is just just simply him casting it again and more coffins show up.
 
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I think that Itachi set Kabuto's "fate" to be that he has to kill Itachi to get out of the loop. But since Itachi is an Edo, Kabuto CAN'T kill him, so the only way that Kabuto can get out of the loop is to release Edo, therefore "killing" Itachi.

Basically the same idea behind your theory, but I like that one a little bit better, makes more sense than just Itachi setting Kabuto's fate as ending Edo.

Also, that plays in nicely with Itachi saying chapters ago that Itachi himself is the weakness of Edo Tensei. Which is amazingly perfectly true. Itachi knew all along that Izanami was the only way to beat Kabuto, and that Izanami would really only work if he himself was an Edo Tensei. So Itachi saying that Edo Tensei's weakness is Itachi as an Edo...If Itachi was not an Edo, Izanami would not work as well since if Itachi wouldn't be able to get stabbed so many times in the loop and regenerate, but since he IS an Edo, the loop works out perfect. I don't know, just blows my mind.

Edit: Oh and to everyone saying why doesn't Kabuto just recast edo after releasing it. It is not that easy. Kabuto completely releasing Edo is NOT just say Edo Madara going into his coffin and getting sent away, or Itachi getting put into a coffin and getting sent away. Kabuto releasing Edo would mean that the SOUL would stop being bound to the living person that is it being bound to, and going back to the Pure World. Which means that Kabuto would need to first find more living sacrifices to bind the soul to, AND most likely get more of the DNA of that person he wants to bring back to the Impure World. So he would have to go find more DNA of Madara, and Muu, and Itachi if he wants to bring Itachi back. THEN go find 3 more living sacrifices to bind the DNA onto, then do the whole ritual that he showed Tobi. THEN he would have his Edo's back. It is just just simply him casting it again and more coffins show up.

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I get the feeling that Itachi will give Sasuke izanami...
 

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Awesome and well thought out :D I was trying to say the same thing on my thread this morning but I was doing it from my phone so I couldn't really do much :/ well anyways the point got said no matter who said it :D good job +rep :D
 

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So I get all the shit you guys are saying but when the hell did izanami start, was is this chapter or when itachi first mentioned it. This is what I think izanami takes a specific timelaps form the targets past and force him to relive it over and over again(not that bad but live five min for like 100 hrs and it becomes really annoying and wicked) I think this is why itachi wants sasuke to stay out of the battle because that would mess up the sync , another thing I would like to apply would be that any injury the target receives in the genjutsu be reflected on his real self(just wishing) this would make it a deadly technique
 

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I think that Itachi set Kabuto's "fate" to be that he has to kill Itachi to get out of the loop. But since Itachi is an Edo, Kabuto CAN'T kill him, so the only way that Kabuto can get out of the loop is to release Edo, therefore "killing" Itachi.

Basically the same idea behind your theory, but I like that one a little bit better, makes more sense than just Itachi setting Kabuto's fate as ending Edo.

Also, that plays in nicely with Itachi saying chapters ago that Itachi himself is the weakness of Edo Tensei. Which is amazingly perfectly true. Itachi knew all along that Izanami was the only way to beat Kabuto, and that Izanami would really only work if he himself was an Edo Tensei. So Itachi saying that Edo Tensei's weakness is Itachi as an Edo...If Itachi was not an Edo, Izanami would not work as well since if Itachi wouldn't be able to get stabbed so many times in the loop and regenerate, but since he IS an Edo, the loop works out perfect. I don't know, just blows my mind.

Edit: Oh and to everyone saying why doesn't Kabuto just recast edo after releasing it. It is not that easy. Kabuto completely releasing Edo is NOT just say Edo Madara going into his coffin and getting sent away, or Itachi getting put into a coffin and getting sent away. Kabuto releasing Edo would mean that the SOUL would stop being bound to the living person that is it being bound to, and going back to the Pure World. Which means that Kabuto would need to first find more living sacrifices to bind the soul to, AND most likely get more of the DNA of that person he wants to bring back to the Impure World. So he would have to go find more DNA of Madara, and Muu, and Itachi if he wants to bring Itachi back. THEN go find 3 more living sacrifices to bind the DNA onto, then do the whole ritual that he showed Tobi. THEN he would have his Edo's back. It is just just simply him casting it again and more coffins show up.

if Kabuto heals each time then it's reasonable to say Itachi would heal too even if he wasn't and Edo

that's all I wanted to say, I agree with everything else
 

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I think that Itachi set Kabuto's "fate" to be that he has to kill Itachi to get out of the loop. But since Itachi is an Edo, Kabuto CAN'T kill him, so the only way that Kabuto can get out of the loop is to release Edo, therefore "killing" Itachi.

Basically the same idea behind your theory, but I like that one a little bit better, makes more sense than just Itachi setting Kabuto's fate as ending Edo.

Also, that plays in nicely with Itachi saying chapters ago that Itachi himself is the weakness of Edo Tensei. Which is amazingly perfectly true. Itachi knew all along that Izanami was the only way to beat Kabuto, and that Izanami would really only work if he himself was an Edo Tensei. So Itachi saying that Edo Tensei's weakness is Itachi as an Edo...If Itachi was not an Edo, Izanami would not work as well since if Itachi wouldn't be able to get stabbed so many times in the loop and regenerate, but since he IS an Edo, the loop works out perfect. I don't know, just blows my mind.

Edit: Oh and to everyone saying why doesn't Kabuto just recast edo after releasing it. It is not that easy. Kabuto completely releasing Edo is NOT just say Edo Madara going into his coffin and getting sent away, or Itachi getting put into a coffin and getting sent away. Kabuto releasing Edo would mean that the SOUL would stop being bound to the living person that is it being bound to, and going back to the Pure World. Which means that Kabuto would need to first find more living sacrifices to bind the soul to, AND most likely get more of the DNA of that person he wants to bring back to the Impure World. So he would have to go find more DNA of Madara, and Muu, and Itachi if he wants to bring Itachi back. THEN go find 3 more living sacrifices to bind the DNA onto, then do the whole ritual that he showed Tobi. THEN he would have his Edo's back. It is just just simply him casting it again and more coffins show up.

well said, i've already mentioned this in my thread :)

 

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Yea I guessed that too after reading it but I just wonder how long has this been going because when kabuto first got his horn chopped off it was closer to the beginning
 
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