I thought both kakashi and guy were supposed to be fighting obito not just kakashi

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I'm just wondering cause in chapter 607 it shows 8 tails exhausted with might guy standing on it's head exhausted and his face bloodied talking about how strong madara is while kakashi is facing obito alone not unless.......and i could be wrong but seeing as kakashi and obito were best friends and teammates kakashi probably told guy to help naruto and bee while he deals with obito cause he sees it as his duty and because he wants to make obito see sense and put an end to his plan but if that's why kakashi is battling him alone i hope that kakashi survives cause obito seems desperate to complete his plan even if he has to kill his former friend and teammate and kakashi is exhausted but still determined to keep fighting on that note it would be an awesome twist if kakashi manages to get through to obito who then betrayes madara but anywayz at this rate i reckon that either kakashi or guy could die before back up arrives so lets hope that back up arrives soon!.
 

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kakshis not like that he woulnt jepradiz the world to save a friend kakshi would kill obito
 

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Gai sama is fighting both obito and madara .
He want to test his power abillity before he start
To use his 8 gates :flaw:
 

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I'm just wondering cause in chapter 607 it shows 8 tails exhausted with might guy standing on it's head exhausted and his face bloodied talking about how strong madara is while kakashi is facing obito alone not unless.......and i could be wrong but seeing as kakashi and obito were best friends and teammates kakashi probably told guy to help naruto and bee while he deals with obito cause he sees it as his duty and because he wants to make obito see sense and put an end to his plan but if that's why kakashi is battling him alone i hope that kakashi survives cause obito seems desperate to complete his plan even if he has to kill his former friend and teammate and kakashi is exhausted but still determined to keep fighting on that note it would be an awesome twist if kakashi manages to get through to obito who then betrayes madara but anywayz at this rate i reckon that either kakashi or guy could die before back up arrives so lets hope that back up arrives soon!.

its probably a guy clone
 

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We can all agree on one thing..... Naruto and co. barely managed to do something against Obito alone.... Madara has joined the fray and is pinning down Bee and Gai pretty well apparently.


They are NO MATCH

Either Sasuke arrives, and saves the day (unlikely)

or

Obito turns good so that all of them can mathch to an extent Madara (Obito sacrificing himself again)... (Very likely to me)



Obito isnt evil, but he has lost all hope for the world... to the point he doesnt care about it at all and wants to save people from it by sending them to the next one (even tho if they are dead they wont be in it)

He isnt being selfish, he's just blinded by his hate for this pathetic world.



I love Obito, and i hate to see that he was Tobi all along and that it wasnt just his body..... but to me, there is hope for ''redemtion'' and i think this is where it's heading now.


I always thought that Madara had played Obito all along.... doing something with the Zetzus in order to make Rin die as he knew from Obito's non stop blabbering about Kakashi and Rin that they were extremely important to him.

Madara apparently ''chose'' Obito.... he wanted Obito to be the one to carry on the plan because it seems that somehow... he foresaw Obito,s potential.

Because of this... i always felt he was responsible somehow of Rin's death.


Remember the ''guine pig'' / experimental bodies / desire to recover Rin's corpse from the Bloody Mist ninjas????

I bet the reason why they wanted Rin is because Zetzu had put his spore unto her, thus settling her fate.


What could very likely happen is Kakashi reveiling at some point that it was a Zetzu entity that attached itself to Rin and pretty much caused her to die in the end..... which could make Obito realise that Madara was responsible all along for all of this....


That or Kakashi gets through to Obito..... which honestly would be way too easy..... Obito has manipulated and used so many people without caring about them at all.... he went against his Sensei and caused him and her wife to die a threatened to kill their son.... Obito was lost and has been lost the moment Rin died..... the only way to retrieve himself is to realise that the person he has become as well as what he started to believe in was built on a setup / lie all along.....
 

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We can all agree on one thing..... Naruto and co. barely managed to do something against Obito alone.... Madara has joined the fray and is pinning down Bee and Gai pretty well apparently.


They are NO MATCH

Either Sasuke arrives, and saves the day (unlikely)

or

Obito turns good so that all of them can mathch to an extent Madara (Obito sacrificing himself again)... (Very likely to me)



Obito isnt evil, but he has lost all hope for the world... to the point he doesnt care about it at all and wants to save people from it by sending them to the next one (even tho if they are dead they wont be in it)

He isnt being selfish, he's just blinded by his hate for this pathetic world.



I love Obito, and i hate to see that he was Tobi all along and that it wasnt just his body..... but to me, there is hope for ''redemtion'' and i think this is where it's heading now.


I always thought that Madara had played Obito all along.... doing something with the Zetzus in order to make Rin die as he knew from Obito's non stop blabbering about Kakashi and Rin that they were extremely important to him.

Madara apparently ''chose'' Obito.... he wanted Obito to be the one to carry on the plan because it seems that somehow... he foresaw Obito,s potential.

Because of this... i always felt he was responsible somehow of Rin's death.


Remember the ''guine pig'' / experimental bodies / desire to recover Rin's corpse from the Bloody Mist ninjas????

I bet the reason why they wanted Rin is because Zetzu had put his spore unto her, thus settling her fate.


What could very likely happen is Kakashi reveiling at some point that it was a Zetzu entity that attached itself to Rin and pretty much caused her to die in the end..... which could make Obito realise that Madara was responsible all along for all of this....


That or Kakashi gets through to Obito..... which honestly would be way too easy..... Obito has manipulated and used so many people without caring about them at all.... he went against his Sensei and caused him and her wife to die a threatened to kill their son.... Obito was lost and has been lost the moment Rin died..... the only way to retrieve himself is to realise that the person he has become as well as what he started to believe in was built on a setup / lie all along.....

Woow :eek:

You made thread inside his thread :D :D :D
 

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All I could think was "This kid doesn't know how to end a sentence"
 

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I love Obito, and i hate to see that he was Tobi all along and that it wasnt just his body..... but to me, there is hope for ''redemtion'' and i think this is where it's heading now.

I always thought that Madara had played Obito all along.... doing something with the Zetzus in order to make Rin die as he knew from Obito's non stop blabbering about Kakashi and Rin that they were extremely important to him.

I think you miss the essense of the story. *Everyone* had reasons for giving up - Orochimaru lost his parents, Madara felt he sacrificed his brother and then stabbed in the back, Kabuto was forced to fight his "mother", Nagato lost his parents to the Leaf and later on his best friend, Gaara had his father plot to kill him, Sasuke had his brother murder his family, Naruto lost his parents, was hated as the host and then faced the man who killed both his teachers.

The key is what they chose in these situations, not what they faced. Orochimaru, Madara, Kabuto, Obito - all faced the choice of good vs evil, and they chose the second. Gaara, naruto and perhaps Kakashi - chose good. Nagato and Sasuke initially chose evil, but then reconsidered.

Obito can't be redeemed. He is responsible for the death of tens of thousands and to worldwide chaos, and is instigator (with Madara) of the most evil plan for world domination. At best he could die like Nagato, undoing a little of the evil he caused, but I am not holding much hope there. Some nice guys do become permanently evil, or evil is meaningless...
 

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I love Obito, and i hate to see that he was Tobi all along and that it wasnt just his body..... but to me, there is hope for ''redemtion'' and i think this is where it's heading now.

I always thought that Madara had played Obito all along.... doing something with the Zetzus in order to make Rin die as he knew from Obito's non stop blabbering about Kakashi and Rin that they were extremely important to him.

I think you miss the essense of the story. *Everyone* had reasons for giving up - Orochimaru lost his parents, Madara felt he sacrificed his brother and then stabbed in the back, Kabuto was forced to fight his "mother", Nagato lost his parents to the Leaf and later on his best friend, Gaara had his father plot to kill him, Sasuke had his brother murder his family, Naruto lost his parents, was hated as the host and then faced the man who killed both his teachers.

The key is what they chose in these situations, not what they faced. Orochimaru, Madara, Kabuto, Obito - all faced the choice of good vs evil, and they chose the second. Gaara, naruto and perhaps Kakashi - chose good. Nagato and Sasuke initially chose evil, but then reconsidered.

Obito can't be redeemed. He is responsible for the death of tens of thousands and to worldwide chaos, and is instigator (with Madara) of the most evil plan for world domination. At best he could die like Nagato, undoing a little of the evil he caused, but I am not holding much hope there. Some nice guys do become permanently evil, or evil is meaningless...
 

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First of all they might have realized that they cannot use ninjutsu against Madara unless it's extremely powerful, but you also can't use the strongest TBB in close range fight, since you damage yourself just as much..

Tajutsu is the best way to beat Madara, and Gai is the expert, so that is probably also the reason. Kakashi need help from someone like shikamaru or possibly raikage due to his speed. We'll see..
 

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8 gates Gai is comming the moment Obito starts to own Kakashi or Madara gets ready to capture Naruto. Kind of funny Obito was considered the shrimp of their group and he owned Gai and Kakashi.
 

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8 gates Gai is comming the moment Obito starts to own Kakashi or Madara gets ready to capture Naruto. Kind of funny Obito was considered the shrimp of their group and he owned Gai and Kakashi.

Which part did Obito own Gai and Kakashi? The one where he needed 6 tailed beasts to do it? Or?
 

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Guy is just getting started, he's testing Madara's skills to learn how much power he himself needs to unleash - 5% or 6%. He also considered releasing 10% of his power, but he's worried about safety of Naruto, Kakashi, Bee and incoming Shinobi Alliance army. U_U
 

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kakashi is able to fight obito because his kamui and obito's space time dimesnion are connected..without kamui, kakashi would also be helpless...gai uses taijutsu and will have no effect due to obito's space time dimension...

That's not a good way of thinking.
It works the other way around, too. Without Kamui, Obito would be hopeless against Kakashi.
 
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