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In chapter 697 they did more damage to each other than the entire part 1 VOTE fight Lol I mean they were bloody and bruised and at they limit here while in part 1 was anyone really ever that badly hurt and exhausted? Sorry that's just how I determine a good fight, it depends on the fighters and how exhausted they are and the body damage they've taken and clearly this fight got that over the past fight. It's all my opinion though and I bet a very unpopular opinion at that....
 

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Yeah, if they faught like this with Kaguya instead of switching dimension and diversion that Kishi show, I can conferm they will dead
Well all they had to do was seal her not beat the shit out of her to death sooo Lol At least Naruto ripped her arm off. That was nice.
 

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Well all they had to do was seal her not beat the shit out of her to death sooo Lol At least Naruto ripped her arm off. That was nice.
Sealing is another thing, but if they and kaguya fighting hardcore like what they out attack like DBZ style. Sure Kaguya can inflict heavy damage to them, what is the problem here? Nothing right. What sasuke and naruto did in the latest chapter espacially the explosion part is still in kaguya league or below her league, she can created TSB more massive than naruto avatar FRSTBB and Indra arrow.

that is kishi double standard, he make both sasuke and naruto like more greater than kaguya, but nope, they just done a same thing that is massive attack, you said kaguya is not shinobi or worrier, but what I saw at sasuke and naruto did is not to shinobi orianted, it because look they get severely injured when clashing their massive attack but not from shinobi combat like Hand to Hand combat. Look what if they clashing with Kaguya TSB, sure they will heavily injured or die.

looks at that.
 
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Sealing is another thing, but if they and kaguya fighting hardcore like what they out attack like DBZ style. Sure Kaguya can inflict heavy damage to them, what is the problem here? Nothing right. What sasuke and naruto did in the latest chapter espacially the explosion part is still in kaguya league or below her league, she can created TSB more massive than naruto avatar FRSTBB and Indra arrow.

that is kishi double standard, he make both sasuke and naruto like more greater than kaguya, but nope, they just done a same thing that is massive attack, you said kaguya is not shinobi or worrier, but what I saw at sasuke and naruto did is not to shinobi orianted, it because look they get severely injured when clashing their massive attack but not from shinobi combat like Hand to Hand combat. Look what if they clashing with Kaguya TSB, sure they will heavily injured or die.

looks at that.
I never said Kaguya was not a shinobi or warrior :sweat: I don't remember putting that all Lol.
 

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Well is it fair to say she wasn't a fighter? I mean she was a princess so I assume she didn't really train for such an occasion like Naruto and Sasuke.
Sure she is not a fighter, but the point is you see in latest chapter, they collied their strongest attack if so , and it resault in they both heavily injured.

the first point here, those small although massive attack able to damage them really bad, and I want you to think what happen when they both collide with kaguya massive TSb

the second point here, kaguya is not fighter OK and naruto and sasuke is fighter OK, but they gain the damage is not in fighter style but in kamizake style attack, what make you think kaguya cant pull that style of fight?

you know fighter style is involving hth combat like DBZ for most of the fight not including finishing blow or attack, but look they just result in using the best attack they can. You cant said OK, because of they are fighter or shinobi they can use that method because naruto and sasuke is shinobi, they are brave, strategies etc,its like excuses. Because kaguya not a shinobi, she cant use that becsuse dhe is dumb, she is coward etc
 
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Sure she is not a fighter, but the point is you see in latest chapter, they collied their strongest attack if so , and it resault in they both heavily injured.

the first point here, those small although massive attack able to damage them really bad, and I want you to think what happen when they both collide with kaguya massive TSb

the second point here, kaguya is not fighter OK and naruto and sasuke is fighter OK, but they gain the damage is not in fighter style but in kamizake style attack, what make you think kaguya cant pull that style of fight?

you know fighter style is involving hth combat like DBZ, but look they just result in using the best attack they can. You cant said OK, because of they are fighter or shinobi they can use that method because naruto and sasuke is shinobi, they are brave, strategies etc,its like excuses. Because kaguya not a shinobi, she cant use that becsuse dhe is dumb, she is coward etc
Oh I think Kaguya is capable of doing that to someone I mean dude she can turn someone into pure ashes with one strike of her bone attack. That is very OP and pretty sure she capable of more OP techniques. And not only because of the explosion do they look that way, but it's also because they were using they bare fist and feet to damage each other which caused the bruises and blood on their faces.
 

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Oh I think Kaguya is capable of doing that to someone I mean dude she can turn someone into pure ashes with one strike of her bone attack. That is very OP and pretty sure she capable of more OP techniques. And not only because of the explosion do they look that way, but it's also because they were using they bare fist and feet to damage each other which caused the bruises and blood on their faces.
They got all their scar, bruises and blood after the massive explosion, but before that in Bijuu susanoo or Avatar of naruto, they looks very clean and tidy, polish etc,. But after the collision and explosion they drop to the groud heavily injured, and after that , they result in using HtH combat as you can see in latest chapter, even sasuke need to use shuriken,

but the point is their HtH combat is after their using all their power just to make a grand explosion, and lead to exhaustion, even their fight look slow as hell and like earth to sky to their own power before, you know what if they fight like that with kaguya after her survive the massive explosion because of immortal(you know juubi able to survive his own TBB in red sun barrier unschachet), sure they die earlier.

look the different kishi pull with his BS fighting writing. Its a joke.
 

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They got all their scar, bruises and blood after the massive explosion, but before that in Bijuu susanoo or Avatar of naruto, they looks very clean and tidy, polish etc,. But after the collision and explosion they drop to the groud heavily injured, and after that , they result in using HtH combat as you can see in latest chapter, even sasuke need to use shuriken,

but the point is their HtH combat is after their using all their power just to make a grand explosion, and lead to exhaustion, even their fight look slow as hell and like earth to sky to their own power before, you know what if they fight like that with kaguya after her survive the massive explosion because of immortal(you know juubi able to survive his own TBB in red sun barrier unschachet), sure they die earlier.

look the different kishi pull with his BS fighting writing. Its a joke.
Well how can you tell the speed of the fight when it's just pictures? Wait for the anime okay? I'm really not understanding what you're trying to say about Kaguya though :erm: I'm lost there honestly. How is it BS? It's making sense to me Lol I guess I'm not seeing what you seeing.
 

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Well how can you tell the speed of the fight when it's just pictures? Wait for the anime okay? I'm really not understanding what you're trying to say about Kaguya though :erm: I'm lost there honestly. How is it BS? It's making sense to me Lol I guess I'm not seeing what you seeing.
Maybe you must learn how to understand a manga not just watch or be a fanboy. why using anime if most of it just added value to the canon manga, you want canon fact go to canon source that is manga for naruto and most of the shonen, Im not blind by bling bling in anime.


Try to study it, there are many nonsense in latest story or naruto manga, kishi just hope we as a readers can accept it without any remours, when I read a manga I look at deepest perspective. I ask you why kishi is to reluctant to give us detail of info for many thing, look at kaguya, from where she is, what about army, hamura, who? Kamui suddenly can go to reality realm, how? He want us to created a theory and debate 24/7 here to find the answer. Who is us to find the answer for his manga, its actually him that must inform us.

I know many peoples having low perspective in studying manga, not studying a manga story, everyone can or able to study manga story, but there are more to that, we are talking about fighting manga here, not a love manga.
 

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Maybe you must learn how to understand a manga not just watch or be a fanboy. why using anime if most of it just added value to the canon manga, you want canon fact go to canon source that is manga for naruto and most of the shonen, Im not blind by bling bling in anime.


Try to study it, there are many nonsense in latest story or naruto manga, kishi just hope we as a readers can accept it without any remours, when I read a manga I look at deepest perspective. I ask you why kishi is to reluctant to give us detail of info for many thing, look at kaguya, from where she is, what about army, hamura, who? Kamui suddenly can go to reality realm, how? He want us to created a theory and debate 24/7 here to find the answer. Who is us to find the answer for his manga, its actually him that must inform us.

I know many peoples having low perspective in studying manga, not studying a manga story, everyone can or able to study manga story, but there are more to that, we are talking about fighting manga here, not a love manga.
Ahhhhhh hold up bruh :| don't be calling me a fanboy and someone who doesn't analysis the manga. I know this manga has mistakes, but I just don't let them ruin my enjoyment of the series :) that's the difference between me and you my friend, I see the faults in the series and still continue to enjoy it as I did when I first started getting into it, but you on the other hand let the negativity get you and that's all you can think about now. Just because I don't complain 24/7 about something I don't like does't mean I love every single thing about the series :| I'm not going to hold a grudge on Kishi for not explaining something, what's done is done. And okay I understand wanting to know about Kaguya and why she wanted an army, but why kamui can go to another dimension? That's not important at all.
 

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I hated how it was done, they were in tip top shape until one explosion magically hurt and drained them both just enough so they could have a cqc fight and use nothing but base techs, I wish the fight could have been way more drawn out with a wider variety of techniques but the manga only has so many chapters left. The whole thing is pretty lackluster compared to other fights imho, it feels like their fight pales in comparison to maddie and hashi. Honestly I feel like their fight from part 1 was better, but I suppose it's not over yet.
 

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Ahhhhhh hold up bruh :| don't be calling me a fanboy and someone who doesn't analysis the manga. I know this manga has mistakes, but I just don't let them ruin my enjoyment of the series :) that's the difference between me and you my friend, I see the faults in the series and still continue to enjoy it as I did when I first started getting into it, but you on the other hand let the negativity get you and that's all you can think about now. Just because I don't complain 24/7 about something I don't like does't mean I love every single thing about the series :| I'm not going to hold a grudge on Kishi for not explaining something, what's done is done. And okay I understand wanting to know about Kaguya and why she wanted an army, but why kamui can go to another dimension? That's not important at all.
will you buying volume of this manga if free website not showing it anymore in weekly basis long time ago if you know the flaw of this manga? Im dont said nagetive for the most part of this manga, kishi tried harder before, but when he done lightly or carelessly for some part of madara and all part of kaguya, I cant accept it, I can accept kaguya losing to team 7 if kishi done it wisely, but nope. Even what mostly I seen lately is fan services much.

It like you want a house and the builder build your house with many flaw or problem after it finish. Is that a done is done for you? OK I said to you let that go, your house, what done is done, dont blame a builder.
 
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