I think Naruto might still lose to Hashirama

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lol get a life fapboyIf you read manga properly hashirama clearly said that juubito was stronger than him

So In a sense naruto is above him

Anyway Perfect jin can break genjutsu's except IT ( sasuke is not immune to IT {mangafact] )
1 TBB frs GG ( 6 TBB's are more than enough) to destroy mokuton

1 Magnet release rasengan will seal hashi's seal off

Reread manga from the start

What about Goudama's ? Even Minato barely managed it to get out of the range by using FTG
 
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We have seen Sasuke guard Naruto from genjutsu, so we have prove that he cannot counter it.

On the other hand, where was Naruto able to resist a genjutsu?

Naruto was caught in the fake Itachi's genjutsu

Or, what makes you think Hashi genjutsu is now as strong as IT? He is a sage successor after all.

Bullshit examples and you know it.

Sasuke guarded him from the strongest planetary level genjutsu of all.

Naruto was caught in Sharingan's genjutsu because Kurama was still hostile towards Naruto and was trapped behind a seal.

And Hashi's genjutsu lack feats.
 

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Sasuke was shielding Naruto from Infinite Tsukuyomi, the ultimate of all genjuts-a god level genjutsu not some run of the mill genjutsu.

It was proven that Jinchuriki can be awakened from genjutsu when Hachibi woke Bee from Itachi's genjutsu. The reason we didn't see this happen to naruto was at the time, He and Kurama were not on good terms. Now that they are, Kurama would do the same thing to Naruto as Hachibi did to Bee when he was caught in genjutsu.

And again. When has Hashirama used genjutsu?

I smell a troll thread. :STFU:

I would not use Kurama and Naruto relationship as a point, since Kurama already helped him in his fight with Sasuke from the end of part one.

If Kurama saved his life by healing him then, I see no reason for him not to help Naruto again.

I explained about Hashi genjutsu in the earlier reply.

lol get a life fapboyIf you read manga properly hashirama clearly said that juubito was stronger than him So In a sense naruto is above himAnyway Perfect jin can break genjutsu's except IT ( sasuke is not immune to IT {mangafact] )1 TBB frs GG1 Magnet release rasengan will seal hashi's seal offReread manga from the start

Sasuke is 100% immune to IT.
 

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There was that fight against Hiruze.

Hashi made some wood and some genjutsu that made the area black. I do not remember the name, was it "Forest swamp"? IDK.

That was the Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu.....And that was Tobirama not Hashirama -_-

I would not use Kurama and Naruto relationship as a point, since Kurama already helped him in his fight with Sasuke from the end of part one.

If Kurama saved his life by healing him then, I see no reason for him not to help Naruto again.

I explained about Hashi genjutsu in the earlier reply.
Naruto's relationship with Kurama played a huge role. If you are not on good terms with your bijuu why would they want to help you? Now granted there were other people around to snap Naruto out of Itachi's genjutsu (Sakura and Chyo) if it was one on one Kurama would most likely have snapped him out of it as he doesn't like the Uchiha.
 
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Naruto > Hashirama

Sasuke < Hashirama Lol

Inb4 the fanboys
 

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I would not use Kurama and Naruto relationship as a point, since Kurama already helped him in his fight with Sasuke from the end of part one.

If Kurama saved his life by healing him then, I see no reason for him not to help Naruto again.

Except that only a perfect Jinchuuriki can counter genjutsu. Kurama didn't directly help him, it was only because the way the seal works that allowed Kurama's chakra to slip through.

Reread the manga again!


Naruto > Hashirama

Sasuke < Hashirama Lol

Inb4 the fanboys

Lol You really know how to counter-troll.
 

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Bullshit examples and you know it.

Sasuke guarded him from the strongest planetary level genjutsu of all.

Naruto was caught in Sharingan's genjutsu because Kurama was still hostile towards Naruto and was trapped behind a seal.

And Hashi's genjutsu lack feats.

Madara, an sage son reincarnation, was able to cast a strong genjutsu. Hashi is another sage son. THey were regarded as being on the same level.
 

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Madara, an sage son reincarnation, was able to cast a strong genjutsu. Hashi is another sage son. THey were regarded as being on the same level.

Rikudou Madara is the same level as Hashirama hun?

Please stop with this stupidity.

Madara won't able to cast MT without having both the Rinnegan and without becoming a Juubi Jin.
 

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Madara, an sage son reincarnation, was able to cast a strong genjutsu. Hashi is another sage son. THey were regarded as being on the same level.

Also like Naruto/Ashura netiher use genjutsu. The genjutsu you are referring to is the Bringer of Darkness and that wasn't Hashirama but Tobirama's genjutsu. Ashura and his incarnates don't use genjutsu. They are about physical feats not illusionary feats. That's the realm of Indra.
 

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Rikudou Madara with Juubi inside him is the same level as Hashirama hun?

Please stop with this stupidity.

Not necessarily to have the Juubi, but since they are the same level I think Hashi's genjutsu is could be on par with IT; just not stronger.
 

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Also like Naruto/Ashura netiher use genjutsu. The genjutsu you are refering to is the Bringer of Darkness and that wasn't hashirama but Tobirama's genjutsu. Ashura and his incarnates don't use genjutsu. They are about physical feats not illusionary feats. That's the realm of Indra.

It's Hashirama's.
 

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Not necessarily to have the Juubi, but since they are the same level I think Hashi's genjutsu is could be on par with IT; just not stronger.

lol, you are officially retarded.
 

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"In the anime, Tobirama Senju was the one to use this technique. However, in the manga, the technique was cast by Hashirama Senju. In the video game Naruto: Ultimate Ninja 3, both are capable of performing the technique."
 

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Not necessarily to have the Juubi, but since they are the same level I think Hashi's genjutsu is could be on par with IT; just not stronger.

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Naruto > Hashirama

Sasuke < Hashirama Lol

Inb4 the fanboys

Sasuke was > Hashirama since he got MS.

Maybe not in stamina and chakra pool, but with Amaterasu he can simply burn all Hashi uses against him.
 

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Sasuke was > Hashirama since he got MS.

Maybe not in stamina and chakra pool, but with Amaterasu he can simply burn all Hashi uses against him.

i see, you are sasuke fapboy.

that explains it. TheRetardedGuy.
 

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Not necessarily to have the Juubi, but since they are the same level I think Hashi's genjutsu is could be on par with IT; just not stronger.

Madara = Hashirama

Rikudou Madara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hashirama

What kind of dumbass are you really?

Mugen Tsukuyomi needs the power of the Juubi. Hashirama is a fodder compared to that power.
 

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It's Hashirama's.

Ah I stand corrected. But I doubt the Bringer of Darkness is as strong as infinate Tsukyomi though as Hiruzen managed to get through it and it doesn't effect the entire world. We can agree to that correct?
 
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