I think I've discovered a huge plothole...

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Okay, so this chapter revealed that Obito is able to see from Kakashi's point-of-view, being that he has his left eye. I'm 99% sure that Obito soon learned how to see in "Kakashi vision" whenever he wished to. This means that Obito has an enormous about of information on Konoha because Kakashi is one of the most trusted and high-ranked Leaf shinobi, which means he has a lot of valuable data. So, this is what I want to know:

-Why didn't Obito jump to save Kakuzu before Naruto got the chance to kill him? Remember that Kakashi was present, which means he was able to watch the battle.

-Is this how Obito knew that Kakashi always made what he claims to be "pitiful" excuses in front of graves? Has Obito seen Kakashi visit Rin's grave via "Kakashi POV".


-Does this explain how Kakashi got MS? Obito unlocked MS sometime during the timeskip, which instantly gave Kakashi it? Obviously their eyes are connected, but we didn't know they were connected to this extent.

To put it simply, the plothole that I am speaking of is Obito having crazy amount of data on Konoha, which should make him 10 times more of a force than he is know.
 

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If you mean why didn't Obito run to Kakuzu and them, then I can answer with; Why would he? They were all tools, just like Nagato and Itachi.

I think so.

Most likely was the way they unlocked it.

I'm also not sure if he can actually see what Kakashi's seeing, since wouldn't Kakashi be able to do it too?
 

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I believe no, and didn't Zetsu warn Obito of the problems going on?
& Kakashi did have intense feelings of grief as well, so that's how he unlocked his, more than likely.
&& I'm sure Obito had been keeping tabs on Kakashi as well, being able to infiltrate the village easily, especially during the Uchiha clan massacre, and Naruto's birth.
 

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how do you know that is not zetsu image of the battle they may not be kakashi eye sight it could be a zetsu recording the battle anything is possible though
 

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Good theory.
How is this a plot hole?

Thanks!
Well, Obito should know sooo much about Konoha it's not even funny. Kakashi is one of the most informed shinobi in the Leaf and probably all of his data is available to Obito. We all know that data is vital in the NV, so if plot wasn't involved, Obito would've been owned Konoha and maybe even the entire shinobi world by now. Imo of course.

how do you know that is not zetsu image of the battle they may not be kakashi eye sight it could be a zetsu recording the battle anything is possible though
Not a bad idea, but Obito was seeing that from his empty eye socket, where the eye he gave Kakashi should be. Obito was forsure looking through Kakashi POV, man.
I believe no, and didn't Zetsu warn Obito of the problems going on?
& Kakashi did have intense feelings of grief as well, so that's how he unlocked his, more than likely.
&& I'm sure Obito had been keeping tabs on Kakashi as well, being able to infiltrate the village easily, especially during the Uchiha clan massacre, and Naruto's birth.
Sorry, dude, but I don't understand how the bold counters my theory.
If you mean why didn't Obito run to Kakuzu and them, then I can answer with; Why would he? They were all tools, just like Nagato and Itachi.

I think so.

Most likely was the way they unlocked it.

I'm also not sure if he can actually see what Kakashi's seeing, since wouldn't Kakashi be able to do it too?

You have a point, the only Akatsuki members Obito would save is probably Kisame and Deidara. Obito doesn't have Kakashis' eye, Kakashi has Obito's eye. Kakashi's left eye belongs to Obito, which allows Obito to see through it.
 
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No. Kakashi covers his eye most of the time. Obito would only be able to see when Kakashi uses it. And yes, he would get an insane amount of information.

And why should he save Kakuzu? Obito never cared about him. He was just one of his pawns...
 

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i think he is only able to see certain events that cause a user a great trauma,not everything
 

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No. Kakashi covers his eye most of the time. Obito would only be able to see when Kakashi uses it. And yes, he would get an insane amount of information.

And why should he save Kakuzu? Obito never cared about him. He was just one of his pawns...

Also, he wouldn't hear anything; he'd only get information from his sight. You're overexaggerating it just a bit.
 

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I think I discovered a new bandwagon, and today it's called "plothole"

"Hey, there's a plot hole"
"Ew, a plothole"
"Sasukes eyes are jacked up, major PLOTHOLE ALERT"
"Killer Bee is black, its a PLOTHOLE"
plothole plothole plothole blablababelbabel!

Can you do better than Kishi?You think it's easy?Show me then...
 

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This is based on if your theory about him being able to see everything kakashi sees
The zetsu can communicate through telepathy he is showing him these visions im pretty sure its a replicate.If not kakashi hit by accident not knowing it was the real her
 

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Its not a plothole, your just assuming your own theory is already factual
 

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do does that mean Tobi knows what happened in the entire "make out" series?
 

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do does that mean Tobi knows what happened in the entire "make out" series?

I was wondering that too. xd

And get rid of the bug in your sig. I keep freaking out everytime I see it and running away from my computer. :p
 

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Thanks!
Well, Obito should know sooo much about Konoha it's not even funny. Kakashi is one of the most informed shinobi in the Leaf and probably all of his data is available to Obito. We all know that data is vital in the NV, so if plot wasn't involved, Obito would've been owned Konoha and maybe even the entire shinobi world by now. Imo of course.


Not a bad idea, but Obito was seeing that from his empty eye socket, where the eye he gave Kakashi should be. Obito was forsure looking through Kakashi POV, man.

Sorry, dude, but I don't understand how the bold counters my theory.


You have a point, the only Akatsuki members Obito would save is probably Kisame and Deidara. Obito doesn't have Kakashis' eye, Kakashi has Obito's eye. Kakashi's left eye belongs to Obito, which allows Obito to see through it.

How would he know much of Konoha? He has his vision not his ears..
 

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No. Kakashi covers his eye most of the time. Obito would only be able to see when Kakashi uses it. And yes, he would get an insane amount of information.

And why should he save Kakuzu? Obito never cared about him. He was just one of his pawns...

LMAO I fail for forgetting about that. Well, I think that Obito has been able to see everything when Kakashi had his sharingan uncovered. Oops, that slipped my mind. :shrug: :sy:
 
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nice thread but this only seems to happen when they are near each other
 

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Well I'm just saying, if Obito ever saw what Kakashi saw, Zetsu wouldn't need to have warned Obito of the danger that
Kakashi and Rin was in, in the first place.
 

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True true. Well, Obito could've seen documents and what not. Anyway, remember that in the title I said "I THINK I've discovered a plothole"

Yeah yeah i know, i think it's a great thread i was just pointing it out there ;)
 
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