I think Itachi is better than EMS Madara

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How is Itachi going to defend from final Susano? And how can he fight 6 clones?!
 

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Itachi told us he needs the EMS to surpass EMS Madara. By that merit, I would firmly say Itachi is doubtlessly not better than EMS Madara.
 

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No please you make Itachi's fanboys look worse in my eyes.
 

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i didnt read anything anyone else wrote but i agree itachi is over ems madara he was over ems saskue and ems saskue should have been on par with madara ..he wasnt for some reason but what ever itachi was the strongest uchiha until edo madara shown up
 

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Sasuke had to fight 10 times more?, dafuq is this shit. Itachi has been in more battles over the 8 years when he ad the ms than sasuke who just activated it a week ago and went blind. He is a spammer, whilst skill goes to itachi.

Madara and izuna wer esaid to be leaders although you are right madara was he leader whilst izuna was like the second man but regardless during their time, it was a time of constant war where both fought together. Secondly even after madara has been revealed he seems very similar to sasuke in personality and fighting style, but has also shown spamming abilities. Its too clear that skill goes to izuna and itachi and power goes to madara and sasuke



Didnt know this was a vs thread but i can assure you that if madara was to beat itachi he will beat him with high diff and this is ems madara and not edo madara im talking about. Due to them have similar abilities they will cancel each other out. Sharingan genjutsu and tsukuyomi is out of the question. You are right, due to madara's large and powerful chakra reserves does have better katon jutsu's and even though itachi is a suiton user, his chakra wouldnt allow him to tame madara's katon by himself, but you see itachi is also a master katon user but also has the sharingan. He can copy and counter those fire techniques you speak of or if needed susano v1 is needed. Battle experience is irrevelant especially when you speak of itachi who's intelligence is far greater than what madara has shown us. Infact madara likes to underestimate his opponents and this could very well be his downfall. His taijutsu is like senjutsu?, dafuq is this shit. Taijutsu really wouldnt be a factor because v1 susano can protect both, also in speed and reflexes they are around equal, along with the sharingan, taijutsu wouldnt be the deciding factor.

Madara susano is greater than itachi's even with the legendary weapons BUT each have their advantage over the other. We still dont know exactly the type of opponents that izanami is best used against but going by the manga its basically a jutsu designed for people like madara and this could come into play if needed

Allright, now tell me how Itachi would even crack Madaras Perfect Susanoo when it's shockwave sliced down the mountains and cleared the map ? And not agreed about reflexes, Madaras reflexes are like twice better than Itachis, battle experience is a HUGE HUGE factor and Madara has tenfold more of it. And about underestimating... Why you always point that ? Madara would just go all in and Itachi would be finished quick, he wouldn't chit chat like with Kages... It's like straight 1v1 fight to decide who's more superior.

TheLeader you really suck, because you only have "Legendary/Spiritual weapons" to defend with but no, you see Blaze actually said points where Itachi would stand a chance, but you only say Legendary weapons, what the heck dude ? Do you want me to explain why Legendary weapons wouldn't help against Perfect Susanoo ? First of all Sword of Totsuka, how can Itachi touch him with that Sword ? How can he touch Madara with Totsuka, when Madaras Susanoo is twenty or more times bigger than Itachis ? And Madara is in that Diamond on his head, and if Itachi tries to seal Susanoo, Madara just resummons it. Sword of Totsuka is almost usless, if Madara want's to fight different it might give a Madara bother to dodge it but else no... Now Yata Mirror ir a bigger factor but still it's not invicible, Yata Mirror wouldn't help against Perfect Jinchuuriki or Perfect Susanoo. Jinchuuriki is just too fast, goes right behind Itachi's back and uses TBB and Itachi is done from behind. Now how with Perfect Susanoo ? You see Yata Mirror is very small same as Itachis Susanoo and it only protects one side, top, one side or front or back or whatever, but Perfect Susanoo has 4 arms and is huge, he could force Itachi to use Yata on one side just by swinging with Sword while other hand cracks Susanoo and instantly kills Itachi, cause it's no chance anybody could survive real and strong Perfect Susanoo attack. Just think if Madara would be standing near Itachi, Madaras Susanoo could attack from all 4 sides and the top, since it has 2 foots and 4 arms with 2 swords.

If honestly Madara wins against Itachi with medium difficulty. I can only see Sword of Totsuka giving some bother and other stuff, I can't see Itachi even touching Madara in this fight, just trying and because it's dangerous it gives diff.

Also let's not forget Madara is the most intelligent character while FIGHTING, I won't say he's really smart, but his experience gives him the best brains to fight.
 

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People are stupid dont you guys get any uchiha is weaker than Madara he knows all uchiha jutsus and he made the stone thing were ITACHI learn all about izanami,izanagi,ems etc

Madara>equal all uchiha
 

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Allright, now tell me how Itachi would even crack Madaras Perfect Susanoo when it's shockwave sliced down the mountains and cleared the map ? And not agreed about reflexes, Madaras reflexes are like twice better than Itachis, battle experience is a HUGE HUGE factor and Madara has tenfold more of it. And about underestimating... Why you always point that ? Madara would just go all in and Itachi would be finished quick, he wouldn't chit chat like with Kages... It's like straight 1v1 fight to decide who's more superior.

TheLeader you really suck, because you only have "Legendary/Spiritual weapons" to defend with but no, you see Blaze actually said points where Itachi would stand a chance, but you only say Legendary weapons, what the heck dude ? Do you want me to explain why Legendary weapons wouldn't help against Perfect Susanoo ? First of all Sword of Totsuka, how can Itachi touch him with that Sword ? How can he touch Madara with Totsuka, when Madaras Susanoo is twenty or more times bigger than Itachis ? And Madara is in that Diamond on his head, and if Itachi tries to seal Susanoo, Madara just resummons it. Sword of Totsuka is almost usless, if Madara want's to fight different it might give a Madara bother to dodge it but else no... Now Yata Mirror ir a bigger factor but still it's not invicible, Yata Mirror wouldn't help against Perfect Jinchuuriki or Perfect Susanoo. Jinchuuriki is just too fast, goes right behind Itachi's back and uses TBB and Itachi is done from behind. Now how with Perfect Susanoo ? You see Yata Mirror is very small same as Itachis Susanoo and it only protects one side, top, one side or front or back or whatever, but Perfect Susanoo has 4 arms and is huge, he could force Itachi to use Yata on one side just by swinging with Sword while other hand cracks Susanoo and instantly kills Itachi, cause it's no chance anybody could survive real and strong Perfect Susanoo attack. Just think if Madara would be standing near Itachi, Madaras Susanoo could attack from all 4 sides and the top, since it has 2 foots and 4 arms with 2 swords.

If honestly Madara wins against Itachi with medium difficulty. I can only see Sword of Totsuka giving some bother and other stuff, I can't see Itachi even touching Madara in this fight, just trying and because it's dangerous it gives diff.

Also let's not forget Madara is the most intelligent character while FIGHTING, I won't say he's really smart, but his experience gives him the best brains to fight.
Your truly an idiotic fanboy :flaw:

first of all did you really say Madara is the most intelligent character while fighting really smh :sy: your talking about a man who took a giant chakra blast to the chest yes his that arrogant edo or no edo. And Itachi deserves that title more then anyone, Itachi has been defeating characters with larger charka pools left and right, you dont think he knows that Madara is stronger then him or has a larger chakra pool. Itachi would come up with the a gameplan, also battle experience is insignificant when compared to Itachi has Itachi has the best sharingan control in the series.
 

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Your truly an idiotic fanboy :flaw:

first of all did you really say Madara is the most intelligent character while fighting really smh :sy: your talking about a man who took a giant chakra blast to the chest yes his that arrogant edo or no edo. And Itachi deserves that title more then anyone, Itachi has been defeating characters with larger charka pools left and right, you dont think he knows that Madara is stronger then him or has a larger chakra pool. Itachi would come up with the a gameplan, also battle experience is insignificant when compared to Itachi has Itachi has the best sharingan control in the series.

O he does ? You don't say eh ? And yes battle experience combined with skill gives a huge Intelligence, well maybe not "Intelligence", but Battle strategy and other stuff. And best Sharingan control ? Dafuq is this ? I would say even Izuna was better even though he wasn't shown lool... Itachi only can use Genjutsu properly, everything other he has sucks. If Madara wouldn't be intelligent he wouldn't have gotten so far. Which I mean getting Hashiramas DNA, Rinnegan and developing true Susanoo-o while focusing on Moons eye plan.
 

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I put them at a tie, but I'm strongly inclined to say that Madara is stronger. That Final Susanoo is killer!
 
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