I think I'm done being a fan of Naruto (character)...

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Not to be offensive, but no one cares who you like or not.

I think Sakura should get a power-up but that i don't go posting it around even though my opinion on Sakura is actually something people can discuss on unlike yours.

So this is either a troll trying to bash Naruto or you are a sasuke fanboy/naruto hater who wants to bash him while pretending you were a Naruto fan.

Plus all your assumptions of Naruto are just your opinion, i could post a thread saying how great Naruto is but obviously its still just my opinion and its the readers decision whether to believe or not but only the people who are already naruto haters/sasuke fans will agree with this thread.

what do sasuke fans have to do with this? so any thread not sucking naruto balls means its created by sasuke fans? dat logic. he's just a naruto fan tired of an aspect of his character simple as that.
 
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sounds just like character bashing to me though
 

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Damn, Took you that long? he's sucked since the timeskip man.
 

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Everybody justifying Narutos actions, saying that thats his character has never heard of character development.

There's such thing as persistence and a strong will, and then there's insanity. Insanity is defined as 'doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome'. Exactly what Naruto is doing.

He has the same goal as end of part 1, and hasn't budged that goal. He even contradicted himself. How can people accept this.

First of all, that is not the definition of insanity. That is what some philosopher said about insanity. And I think that somewhere in this story you completely missed something, or maybe you're just choosing to ignore it.
 
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To be fair, Hashirama was a grown man before he realized Madara couldn't be saved. Naruto is only 17, the only difference there is between them is that Hashirama obviously has not had enough screentime.
 

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what do sasuke fans have to do with this? so any thread not sucking naruto balls means its created by sasuke fans? dat logic. he's just a naruto fan tired of an aspect of his character simple as that.

No, you misinterpreted what i said, i said there is a possibility that this could just be a Sasuke fan indirectly bashing Naruto by posing himself as a former Naruto fan, it has happened before and yes, the Sasuke fanboys are that shallow. Besides, real Naruto fans don't give up on their character so he is obviously not a real fan.
 

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Naruto is a shitty character and he will be a shitty kage

Because the way he thinks is bad

He just called a guy how killed his friend
And a guy who was the reason why his father and mother died the " coolest guy "
 
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I dont blame u
Naruto is a shitty character and he will be a shitty kage

Because the way he thinks is bad

He just called a guy how killed his friend

And a guy who was the reason why his father and mother died the " coolest guy "

And Sasuke called the guy who gave him mental trauma at 12 years old and assassinated his entire clan "the perfect guy"

I think we all know who is a more shitty character.
 

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what do sasuke fans have to do with this? so any thread not sucking naruto balls means its created by sasuke fans? dat logic. he's just a naruto fan tired of an aspect of his character simple as that.
Yes this. Naruto and sasuke don't die so most likely he's successful at "converting" sasuke without killing him
 

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And Sasuke called the guy who gave him mental trauma at 12 years old and assassinated his entire clan "the perfect guy"

I think we all know who is a more shitty character.

Comparing someone who misunderstood his brothers true intentions to a blonde kid who praised a stranger like Obito who has murdered countless innocents and is the sole reason for Naruto's loneliness?

Yeah, I think we know who is the real screw loosed character in this show.
 

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And Sasuke called the guy who gave him mental trauma at 12 years old and assassinated his entire clan "the perfect guy"

I think we all know who is a more shitty character.
He's talking about his strength and how good of a shinobi he was. Also itachi really cared about sasuke it's just that his way if showing his love was circular.

In naruto's case, obito turned good like 30minutes after he said that and he said that because obito once shared the same dream as him. Tell me who is the shittier character now?
 

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For someone reason, I get this odd feeling that Naruto doesn't give a **** what you think. Lol
 

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Comparing someone who misunderstood his brothers true intentions to a blonde kid who praised a stranger like Obito who has murdered countless innocents and is the sole reason for Naruto's loneliness?

Yeah, I think we know who is the real screw loosed character in this show.

Okay well lets take it like this.

Naruto isn't gonna be some stupid kid like Sasuke who always seeks revenge and always thinks about the past.

He is more mature and knows that even if he didn't forgive Obito nothing would change and he wouldn't get his parents back.

Plus it still doesnt change the fact that Itachi had many alternatives yet he chose to kill his clan and scar his brother for life just for his stupid plan that did not succeed.
 

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He's talking about his strength and how good of a shinobi he was. Also itachi really cared about sasuke it's just that his way if showing his love was circular.

In naruto's case, obito turned good like 30minutes after he said that and he said that because obito once shared the same dream as him. Tell me who is the shittier character now?

"Was" i see a past tense there so that means Sasuke was referring to the old Itachi? So was Naruto, Naruto was referring to the good Obito the one he was when he was younger. Anyways im tired of explaining this to Sasuke fanboys because you obviously dont understand Naruto's character. Lets just agree that both Naruto and Sasuke are shitty characters for being able to forgive such evil people.
 

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If Kakashi could use mangyeko techniques without even any sort of doujutsu just coz Obito was in him, then a hyuga definitely could with Indra inside him.

Oh yes, they'll be able to use two Doujutsu at once. :rolleyes: Obito was able to do that because he was the Juubi Jinchuuriki and got hax. I don't see Sasuke automatically having 3T when he was little, or the "spiral MS".
 
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Okay well lets take it like this.

Naruto isn't gonna be some stupid kid like Sasuke who always seeks revenge and always thinks about the past.
1. Sasuke's revenge wasn't stupid.

2. Sasuke explicitly stated that the past is beneath him now.

3. Sasuke actually accomplishes his goals and actually wants to make a difference.

At least Sasuke doesn't constantly chase after some boy that doesn't care about him and isn't selfish enough to not mind his own business when someone tells them to leave them alone. I would consider Naruto to be inconsiderate and stupid for that since you want to play this stupid game.

He is more mature
Right, I think I'll stop you right there.
What was Naruto's dream in part 1? To be hokage and be acknowledged by everyone?
What is Naruto dream now? To be hokage, be acknowledged by everyone, and bring peace to the world?

Does Naruto understand that change is necessary to bring better results for the world? No. Does Sasuke understand that change is necessary to bring better results for the world? Yes. Does Naruto believe that he can rid the entire world of darkness? Yes. Does Sasuke believe that he can rid the world of darkness? Of course not. Sasuke's isn't that naïve or retarded.

Sasuke is far more mature than Naruto ever will be. Just because someone is always happy, good willed and optimistic does not mean that they are mature. It just means that they are clueless of other tactics besides drinking tea and talking through negotiations.

and knows that even if he didn't forgive Obito nothing would change and he wouldn't get his parents back.
Right! Right! Right! so it's ok for Naruto to forgive Obito and you even call that mature but when someone mentions Sasuke forgiving his kin flesh and blood brother you call it stupid?

Damn the logic in this base is appalling.

Plus it still doesnt change the fact that Itachi had many alternatives yet he chose to kill his clan and scar his brother for life just for his stupid plan that did not succeed.
This is pretty much your delusional way of thinking because it was the only way to go because if he didn't go through with it then a war would have broke out and there would have been even more causalities, so you weighing a clan over the whole world is pretty stupid. Itachi had but so little decisions and time to think about it. Apparently Hiruzen was a b!tch and Danzo was a coward so he had no choice but to follow orders. Try reading the manga for once would you?

Apparently now you want to have sympathy for the Uchiha when in fact I doubt you even care if Itachi killed the clan at all. You just mention this to try and help you argument when actually it helps nothing. It only proves how ignorant and flawed your reasoning is.
 
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Killing should be the last alternative. There is always a chance to change things.

Have you not read the manga? Killing Sasuke won't solve anything, Indra will just reincarnate and start the process over once again.

Naruto is acting more serious than he ever has before, but he is still light-hearted. That's his character. If he was completely serious like Sasuke, then he wouldn't be Naruto.

Hashirama didn't intend to kill Madara until half-way through their final fight at the Valley of the End.
 
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1. Sasuke's revenge wasn't stupid.

2. Sasuke explicitly stated that the past is beneath him now.

3. Sasuke actually accomplishes his goals and actually wants to make a difference.

At least Sasuke doesn't constantly chase after some boy that doesn't care about him and isn't selfish enough to not mind his own business when someone tells them to leave them alone. I would consider Naruto to be inconsiderate and stupid for that since you want to play this stupid game.[\QUOTE]

1. I never said that it was

2. I was talking about when Itachi was still alive

3. And Naruto doesnt? Dat logic.

Naruto wanted to bring Sasuke back because he was like family, when team 7 was formed he celt like Sakura and Sasuke were like his sister and brother. Anyone would go searching for their brother if they ran away one night, especially if they really loved their brother.

Right, I think I'll stop you right there.
What was Naruto's dream in part 1? To be hokage and be acknowledged by everyone?
What is Naruto dream now? To be hokage, be acknowledged by everyone, and bring peace to the world?

Does Naruto understand that change is necessary to bring better results for the world? No. Does Sasuke understand that change is necessary to bring better results for the world? Yes. Does Naruto believe that he can rid the entire world of darkness? Yes. Does Sasuke believe that he can rid the world of darkness? Of course not. Sasuke's isn't that naïve or retarded.

Sasuke is far more mature than Naruto ever will be. Just because someone is always happy, good willed and optimistic does not mean that they are mature. It just means that they are clueless of other tactics besides drinking tea and talking through negotiations.

Naruto does understand that change is necessary to make the world a better place, he wants to improve it while Sasuke wants to take a big wrecking ball and knock down the world because he believes he can build a flawless world from scratch...Right. Sasuke is in no way more mature than Naruto, and i never stated just because he is optimistic it means he is more mature, i said because he can understand the pain of others and forgive them.

Right! Right! Right! so it's ok for Naruto to forgive Obito and you even call that mature but when someone mentions Sasuke forgiving his kin flesh and blood brother you call it stupid?

Damn the logic in this base is appalling.

Okay so i was exaggerating when i said Sasuke shouldnt forgive Itachi but i am saying Naruto forgiving Obito is comparable to Sasuke forgiving Itachi so their both on the same level there really. Don't take every word i say seriously man.

This is pretty much your delusional way of thinking because it was the only way to go because if he didn't go through with it then a war would have broke out and there would have been even more causalities, so you weighing a clan over the whole world is pretty stupid. Itachi had but so little decisions and time to think about it. Apparently Hiruzen was a b!tch and Danzo was a coward so he had no choice but to follow orders. Try reading the manga for once would you?

Apparently now you want to have sympathy for the Uchiha when in fact I doubt you even care if Itachi killed the clan at all. You just mention this to try and help you argument when actually it helps nothing. It only proves how ignorant and flawed your reasoning is.

I have read the manga and just so you know, i felt sad for Sasuke when he saw his parents dead and i felt even sadder for Itachi when the truth was revealed. Also i am not saying Itachi should have just laid back while the clan started a war but he could have convinced the clan. I never saw him try to see if he could convince his father not to attack Konohagakure, before you go and say that they couldn't be convinced, there is always a chance. If was in Itachi's shoes i would have tried various other ways of stopping the attack but the only thing on Itachi's mind was kill them and thats pretty dumb because that means he was more willing to murder them then to try to stop them harmlessly. You don't have to go insulting my opinion just because you think that its unlikely, either way its going to take me my entire holiday to convince a Sasuke fan so why don't we just agree to disagree because this argument wont get us anywhere and it will only waste our time.
 

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Why, Obito is coolest, cuz he wanted to be hokage (he's cool w/o it thou), why cant sasuke be cool then.
Naruto cant kill cool guys, heroes dont do that ;)
 
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