I think I found a flaw in the manga

[Unbiased]

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It says that hiruzen was able to use all the jutsu in the leaf. Now I know that excludes bloodline limits and secret jutsu's like the nara clans, but since it says he could use every jutsu, does that give him all 5 elemental releases?

I originally thought the manga said he knew every jutsu meaning he had knowledge, but since it said he could use them, that's implying that he could use all 5 elements.

 

[-Logic-]

It's just exaggeration.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Thats pretty much bullshit if u asked me
why didnt he use chidori against oro
Fire Magestic Annihilation.....
rock smash
etc.

 

[Negative Knight]

it meant the three types: Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Genjutsu

 

[-Logic-]

it meant the three types: Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Genjutsu

/Thread. xd

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

According to Narutopedia, he only has earth and fire releases, but I was under the impression that he could use all five.

 

[Gooner4life]

It is possible to learn all five, just very hard, takes a very long time and takes a genius, something Hiruzen was.

 

[Unbiased]

it meant the three types: Taijutsu, Ninjutsu and Genjutsu

he said ALL the jutsu in the leaf. Now excluding both bloodline limits and secret jutsu's like the nara clan, that means all no matter if you look at it as taijutsu genjutsu and ninjutsu. Just my thoughts on the matter.

 

[Negative Knight]

According to Narutopedia, he only has earth and fire releases, but I was under the impression that he could use all five.

He most likely could as someone of his level would be able to master the other elements they don't naturally possess

But every jutsu is a great exaggeration e.g. Lava Release Armour or Steam Based Ninjutsu

 

[-Logic-]

he said ALL the jutsu in the leaf. Now excluding both bloodline limits and secret jutsu's like the nara clan, that means all no matter if you look at it as taijutsu genjutsu and ninjutsu. Just my thoughts on the matter.

*Claps* read my post dude, I explained it. IT'S EXAGGERATION. Zetsu said Itachi's invincible, is he though, is he really? No. Well then... :flaw:

 

[Unbiased]

*Claps* read my post dude, I explained it. IT'S EXAGGERATION. Zetsu said Itachi's invincible, is he though, is he really? No. Well then... :flaw:

That's a groundless statement, there's no proof that its an exaggerated claim. Nothing has ever been said to refute orochimaru's statement other then your opinion in the matter.

 

[Frikid]

i think you can do a elemental jutsu even if it is not your element.

after watching, kakashi vs kakuzu i came to the conclusion

 

[Negative Knight]

That's a groundless statement, there's no proof that its an exaggerated claim. Nothing has ever been said to refute orochimaru's statement other then your opinion in the matter.

Isn't Hiruzen being able to use ALL jutsus make him stronger than the S06P ?

e.g. He does not possess jutsus specific to other people

Utakata has his unique bubble style

Han has his steam release style

if hiruzen could do everything, why not go all out in a futile bid to save the leaf ?

 

[Dantee]

I believe it was a mistranslation. I'll get back to you

 

[killa sage]

*Claps* read my post dude, I explained it. IT'S EXAGGERATION. Zetsu said Itachi's invincible, is he though, is he really? No. Well then... :flaw:

zetsu said that for a reason
kishi wont put trolls in conversations
the only thing that got itachi was he's sickness


people say sasuke is very powerful
but everyone he killed was sick
or someone helped him

Isn't Hiruzen being able to use ALL jutsus make him stronger than the S06P ?

e.g. He does not possess jutsus specific to other people

Utakata has his unique bubble style

Han has his steam release style

if hiruzen could do everything, why not go all out in a futile bid to save the leaf ?

all jutsu in konoha

 

[Unbiased]

Isn't Hiruzen being able to use ALL jutsus make him stronger than the S06P ?

e.g. He does not possess jutsus specific to other people

Utakata has his unique bubble style

Han has his steam release style

if hiruzen could do everything, why not go all out in a futile bid to save the leaf ?

No he is not stronger then the sage? I think that's an obvious and a desperate attempt to refute what orochimaru said.

I already stated he does not know secret jutsu and bloodline limits like steam relaese. However you bringing something that isn't even canon in here disturbs me. Utakata's bubble style is filler.

 

[Unbiased]

I believe it was a mistranslation. I'll get back to you

I honestly was thinking that, I don't have a copy of volume 15 which is where that fight is. Usually viz does the best translations.

 

[OnPoint]

If that statements turns out to be the correct translation, then yes, he could use all 5.

 

[XZA]

Thats pretty much bullshit if u asked me
why didnt he use chidori against oro
Fire Magestic Annihilation.....
rock smash
etc.

Destroy the village in the process?

Rock smash belongs to Iwa BTW, hince the iwa sign on the two slabs

 

[Unbiased]

I wonder what the databooks say about his elemental releases.