I think Bleach is overal better than Naruto

[Vegeta]

What Bleachbase? Bleach is not liked enough to have it's own base.

I know that I was being a smart ass lol

 

[Deoinaidis]

I don't think the two should be compared being the fact that they are of different story lines, Naruto is nice because of the drama and twists the show has to it, the characters make the show interesting, the the techniques....On the other hand I like Bleach for all the action and blood it has to offer, Im on my way to achieving Bankai by the way, favorite character being the great KEMPACHI....

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Shouldn't this thread be posted on BleachBase? Just curious

I know just wanted to jump in to.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

What Bleachbase? Bleach is not liked enough to have it's own base.

actually there is bunch of bleach forum, but it was not named bleachbase

 

[Mosgoved]

I just re hashed what you used so that could apply to you dipshit.

No you keep saying "it is all preference why is this being debated" but the thing is I agree but for my preference I have stuff to back it up. That is all. Why do you insist on running in circles?

And I'm saying there is no reason for them to not be compared. They are same genre semi arguably same type of story and use many of the same elements. They can easily be compared. OMG ****ING GOD YOUR AN IDIOT. I have fully said my opinion isn't to fact! I have fully said they were just brought up to bolster my opinion! I have already said it is not proof that one is better than the other but just notable references. You are honestly an idiot I have quoted yourself and myself numerous times to show I'm not passing it of as fact. Your a ****tard.

Um how many times have I said my opinion is not fact? How many times have I said the majority is just a statistical reference? How many times have I fully said this is just my opinion and that those statistics are just to show a lot agree with me?

And how many times have you denying and neglecting? A lot! Please your the only one who needs to work on something.

I did not twist them. I simply laid all points and scenarios of the subject so as not to miss a single thing. It is much different then comparing manga which you would know if you read properly idiot. It is carefully dissecting what is given and voicing all the information I can give on all of it's aspects. Something you do not know how to do clearly.

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****tard!
And I simply only quote more important or longer things and you are such an idiot considering you do not put it "after" the quoted word is used at the beginning and end. Your just illiterate.

You both failed to comprehend and interpret what I wrote. Do you know why I brought up the fact that it is a fail as it lost readers? Because as you said yourself "most people said they stopped reading bleach" that is also a worldwide thing. Now I brought it up not cause it simply lost some readers. It lost a huge percentage of it's readers. That is why I put the fact is is not top 10. Not to show it like it is new but just to put it in as support to the fact that because of the poor writing it has fallen far. And that is why it is both a critical and a commercial failure lately.

No it is you who keeps repeating "preferences" or "opinions not fact" so it seems you do not know that I fully agree. I simply am saying more people agree with me that is all. I'm not passing it of as fact.

nope, youre just being childish, dumbass.

oh my god, ive told you multiple times that im not debating because im not trying to prove/persuade/ or whatever to you why bleach is better. you say I keep running in circles when that is all what youve done so far. your opinion is that you think naruto is better, guess what? i don’t care, you keep saying “i have statistics and such to back up my preference”, i know, im know disputing that more people agree that naruto is better, which is what im trying to explain to you this whole time. that doesnt matter to me that you or others think naruto is better, i don’t fcking care and there shouldnt be a reason for me too. that is all.

and that is what you think, i think otherwise of that matter. hmm, i dont remember you even acknowledging what you were saying is your opinion until later in our discussion. Lets go through your earlier posts to see if you even hinted that what you were saying was your opinion shall we.

“LOL bleach is garbage but I like it at times”

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Read this rant then come back and say that bleach is better than naruto. But you won't cuz naruto>bleach.”

“Yeah launching a full on war and crushing soul society only to leave after the most obvious plot twist.”(this was your first reply to my first quote when i made it clear that it is a matter of opinion, but your tard surfaced and felt obligated to defend narutos honor).

“At least it presents facts as to why bleach sucks.” (this was your reply to the PuppyDogGenerals reply of your post where it had that link of someone bitching about bleach, and here you say it presents facts to why bleach sucks, that rant was that persons opinions to why they think it sucks, somebody else who thinks bleach sucks could have different reasons and maybe they do not agree with some of that guys points which means it isnt fact dipshit).

“At least his plan makes sense and actually isn't just domination what was aizen and juha bach's plan? And it is mostly madara who is manipulating him to do all of this.”

“That's what makes it better it is not about the stereotypical plan of world domination. It is about end the cycle of hatred and bringing "peace". Im sorry if that is too deep for bleach which is all about explosions and cliches and ridiculous power ups.”

you see now, dont give me that bullshit of how this whole time you were just stating your opinion, you didnt fcking hint what you were saying was your opinion so obviously someone can interpret your posts as trying to come off as fact or that you were trying to force your opinions on somebody who doesnt agree. you didnt start saying what you posted was your opinions until much later in our discussion you fcking imbecile. oh really? read your quotes above, you clearly didn’t state or even hinted what you were saying was opinion, one could easily say that your posts looked like what you were stating was facts, my first fcking quote said it’s a matter of opinion while yours didnt even hint that you fcking tard.

didnt seem like it looking at the majority of your posts, look at your quotes i just displayed and you can clearly see that you didnt state or hint what you were saying was your opinion. dont try to bullshit now.

nope, you were that neglected and denied what i said on numerous occasions.

you didnt twist them? bitch please, this is what i asked you “Or how about justin beiber, he sells out wherever he goes, is probably the most popular singer in the world, but does that mean he is the best singer?” and “ the ‘Avatar’ is the top grossing films of all time, does that most mean its fact that it is the best movie of all time?”. in your following reply you twisted my questions into this… “Why was Avatar successful?” and “Why is Justin bieber famous and successful?”, youre fcking retarded if you honestly think those questions are the same, I even dumbed it down for you… “IS JB A BETTER SINGER THAN THOSE WHO ARENT AS POPULAR and IS AVATAR THE BEST MOVIE/BETTER THAN THOSE WHO HAVE LESS SELLS/POPULARITY?”, but you seem to have comprehension problems so its not surprising you couldnt answer my questions properly. oh, since you used outside sources i used your logic and did the same thing you imbecile, you just dodged my questions since it counters what you were blabbering about you tard.

oh my god, your stupidity amazes me by the post. lets break it down what you said again shall we, you said “I'm not butthurt your just illiterate”, you should of used “you’re” instead of “your”. if we write out the contraction that you used (I’m) and the same thing with the proper term (you’re), it looks like this “I am not butthurt you are just illiterate”, you also forgot to use a comma after the word "butthurt" so i dont know what the fck you are bitching about saying you dont put it “after” the quoted word blah blah blah. learn to read fckface. so, with the corrections it should have been “I’m not butthurt, you’re just illiterate.” or “I am not butthurt, you are just illiterate.” this link will probably help your retarded ass hopefully (

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). this is just one of many mistakes, so you being a grammar nazi on a naruto forum is pointless and retarded.

no i didnt, you have failed to comprehend that i do understand what you are saying. oh, can you show me where i said “most people said they stopped reading bleach”, im not saying I didn’t say that, but i dont remember and i dont agree with that quote. but i do remember saying something like “from what i read from most people who stopped reading bleach, was that they stopped when the aizen arc ended, they don’t know whats going on currently in bleach; the fullbringer arc was utter shit but for those who kept reading seems to love whats happening now.” (pg 9). and yes, i understand completely that losing readers obviously means those people dont find the manga appealing anymore, so again you thinking its a fail lately is your opinion which i understand and dont care for. there are obviously a lot of others who loves bleach currently and there are those who think current naruto is shit, people have different preferences and there shouldnt be nothing to argue about.

ok, I have continually acknowledged that more people prefer naruto, so you are the one who does not know that i agree, this argument began because you didn’t like my opinion about naruto, so you are the one who needs to learn that your replies was and is pointless.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

nope, youre just being childish, dumbass.

oh my god, ive told you multiple times that im not debating because im not trying to prove/persuade/ or whatever to you why bleach is better. you say I keep running in circles when that is all what youve done so far. your opinion is that you think naruto is better, guess what? i don’t care, you keep saying “i have statistics and such to back up my preference”, i know, im know disputing that more people agree that naruto is better, which is what im trying to explain to you this whole time. that doesnt matter to me that you or others think naruto is better, i don’t fcking care and there shouldnt be a reason for me too. that is all.

and that is what you think, i think otherwise of that matter. hmm, i dont remember you even acknowledging what you were saying is your opinion until later in our discussion. Lets go through your earlier posts to see if you even hinted that what you were saying was your opinion shall we.

“LOL bleach is garbage but I like it at times”

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Read this rant then come back and say that bleach is better than naruto. But you won't cuz naruto>bleach.”

“Yeah launching a full on war and crushing soul society only to leave after the most obvious plot twist.”(this was your first reply to my first quote when i made it clear that it is a matter of opinion, but your tard surfaced and felt obligated to defend narutos honor).

“At least it presents facts as to why bleach sucks.” (this was your reply to the PuppyDogGenerals reply of your post where it had that link of someone bitching about bleach, and here you say it presents facts to why bleach sucks, that rant was that persons opinions to why they think it sucks, somebody else who thinks bleach sucks could have different reasons and maybe they do not agree with some of that guys points which means it isnt fact dipshit).

“At least his plan makes sense and actually isn't just domination what was aizen and juha bach's plan? And it is mostly madara who is manipulating him to do all of this.”

“That's what makes it better it is not about the stereotypical plan of world domination. It is about end the cycle of hatred and bringing "peace". Im sorry if that is too deep for bleach which is all about explosions and cliches and ridiculous power ups.”

you see now, dont give me that bullshit of how this whole time you were just stating your opinion, you didnt fcking hint what you were saying was your opinion so obviously someone can interpret your posts as trying to come off as fact or that you were trying to force your opinions on somebody who doesnt agree. you didnt start saying what you posted was your opinions until much later in our discussion you fcking imbecile. oh really? read your quotes above, you clearly didn’t state or even hinted what you were saying was opinion, one could easily say that your posts looked like what you were stating was facts, my first fcking quote said it’s a matter of opinion while yours didnt even hint that you fcking tard.

didnt seem like it looking at the majority of your posts, look at your quotes i just displayed and you can clearly see that you didnt state or hint what you were saying was your opinion. dont try to bullshit now.

nope, you were that neglected and denied what i said on numerous occasions.

you didnt twist them? bitch please, this is what i asked you “Or how about justin beiber, he sells out wherever he goes, is probably the most popular singer in the world, but does that mean he is the best singer?” and “ the ‘Avatar’ is the top grossing films of all time, does that most mean its fact that it is the best movie of all time?”. in your following reply you twisted my questions into this… “Why was Avatar successful?” and “Why is Justin bieber famous and successful?”, youre fcking retarded if you honestly think those questions are the same, I even dumbed it down for you… “IS JB A BETTER SINGER THAN THOSE WHO ARENT AS POPULAR and IS AVATAR THE BEST MOVIE/BETTER THAN THOSE WHO HAVE LESS SELLS/POPULARITY?”, but you seem to have comprehension problems so its not surprising you couldnt answer my questions properly. oh, since you used outside sources i used your logic and did the same thing you imbecile, you just dodged my questions since it counters what you were blabbering about you tard.

oh my god, your stupidity amazes me by the post. lets break it down what you said again shall we, you said “I'm not butthurt your just illiterate”, you should of used “you’re” instead of “your”. if we write out the contraction that you used (I’m) and the same thing with the proper term (you’re), it looks like this “I am not butthurt you are just illiterate”, you also forgot to use a comma after the word "butthurt" so i dont know what the fck you are bitching about saying you dont put it “after” the quoted word blah blah blah. learn to read fckface. so, with the corrections it should have been “I’m not butthurt, you’re just illiterate.” or “I am not butthurt, you are just illiterate.” this link will probably help your retarded ass hopefully (

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). this is just one of many mistakes, so you being a grammar nazi on a naruto forum is pointless and retarded.

no i didnt, you have failed to comprehend that i do understand what you are saying. oh, can you show me where i said “most people said they stopped reading bleach”, im not saying I didn’t say that, but i dont remember and i dont agree with that quote. but i do remember saying something like “from what i read from most people who stopped reading bleach, was that they stopped when the aizen arc ended, they don’t know whats going on currently in bleach; the fullbringer arc was utter shit but for those who kept reading seems to love whats happening now.” (pg 9). and yes, i understand completely that losing readers obviously means those people dont find the manga appealing anymore, so again you thinking its a fail lately is your opinion which i understand and dont care for. there are obviously a lot of others who loves bleach currently and there are those who think current naruto is shit, people have different preferences and there shouldnt be nothing to argue about.

ok, I have continually acknowledged that more people prefer naruto, so you are the one who does not know that i agree, this argument began because you didn’t like my opinion about naruto, so you are the one who needs to learn that your replies was and is pointless.

I'm being childish your the one who started that. And I'm not going to swear anymore as that is causing more animosity and fighting.

My first comment was my opinion on it and I even said that I like it at times.

You obviously did not read the rant. First of all it is to be taken as A JOKE as they are just RANTING mixed with EXISTENT/FACTUAL plot holes. The writer tried to show that his opinion was fact and that was what made it hilarious. Second I showed it as the MAJORITY of readers agreed(jokingly/truthfully) on it which went to my point about the GENERAL CONSENSUS so if you are going to quote a link at least read it. You can even read my reply to him after he replied to it I did not deny the opinion stuff I just continued taking shots a bleach for the fun of it.

And I was just pointing out the flaws in what you said as you neglected or forgot many things in your statements.

That is why you read the links given so you don't jump to the idea that I was putting in stone as fact. And the reason I brought it up later was because you kept bringing it up under the impression I meant it as fact. I was clearing it up for your confused ass. At least thoroughly check next time.

Don't use words that you don't even know how to properly use as I said you used it with the wrong idea.

I am honestly surprised by this. I have already told you in order to answer those questions you have to take all components and scenarios in account. What your quoting was the beginning of a long break down. Not my fault you don't understand how what I wrote applies to your questions.

It is funny how you bring up all this your or you're stuff. At least I used a word that existed you are so stupid you used a non existent word "youre". And I won't bother to list ALL OF YOUR MISTAKES as that would be embarrassing to pull out words 3rd graders know how to spell and show how you misspelled it. For all of my every single grammar mistake I make you make at least 3 more. Do you know why I point out your grammar mistakes? They are so horrendous that they literally make your argument look stupid. Ranging from making it look like you meant the total opposite of your point to just flat out making sense. If you are going to argue at least make sure your argument is recognizable.

No my comments have been trying to dissolve the fighting by showing I have always acknowledged it is opinion but you keep going. That was basically what you said. The key hing is you did not deny that they lost many readers. Evident in statistics shown. My point is that it is seen as a failure as it is commercially and critically falling down. I know you understand and don't care and that is you. I am not here to change your mind I just put it in there as a reason I(and many others) feel it fail. And that is that so this is a hollow argument.

No you just keep bringing up the fact/opinion thing as if I don't know it. That is all as I have clearly said it is a matter of opinion. I started the conversation just to point out something for you and it would have ended long time ago if you did not start with the insults. That is all.

 

[x Tensa zangetsu x]

you have to be a real bleach fan to keep wacthing that, i stopped after he beated aizen. Anyway's one piece in my opinion is waaaaaaaaay better than both of the two, even thought some of the strawhat's annoy me

 

[Mosgoved]

I'm being childish your the one who started that. And I'm not going to swear anymore as that is causing more animosity and fighting.

My first comment was my opinion on it and I even said that I like it at times.

You obviously did not read the rant. First of all it is to be taken as A JOKE as they are just RANTING mixed with EXISTENT/FACTUAL plot holes. The writer tried to show that his opinion was fact and that was what made it hilarious. Second I showed it as the MAJORITY of readers agreed(jokingly/truthfully) on it which went to my point about the GENERAL CONSENSUS so if you are going to quote a link at least read it. You can even read my reply to him after he replied to it I did not deny the opinion stuff I just continued taking shots a bleach for the fun of it.

And I was just pointing out the flaws in what you said as you neglected or forgot many things in your statements.

That is why you read the links given so you don't jump to the idea that I was putting in stone as fact. And the reason I brought it up later was because you kept bringing it up under the impression I meant it as fact. I was clearing it up for your confused ass. At least thoroughly check next time.

Don't use words that you don't even know how to properly use as I said you used it with the wrong idea.

I am honestly surprised by this. I have already told you in order to answer those questions you have to take all components and scenarios in account. What your quoting was the beginning of a long break down. Not my fault you don't understand how what I wrote applies to your questions.

It is funny how you bring up all this your or you're stuff. At least I used a word that existed you are so stupid you used a non existent word "youre". And I won't bother to list ALL OF YOUR MISTAKES as that would be embarrassing to pull out words 3rd graders know how to spell and show how you misspelled it. For all of my every single grammar mistake I make you make at least 3 more. Do you know why I point out your grammar mistakes? They are so horrendous that they literally make your argument look stupid. Ranging from making it look like you meant the total opposite of your point to just flat out making sense. If you are going to argue at least make sure your argument is recognizable.

No my comments have been trying to dissolve the fighting by showing I have always acknowledged it is opinion but you keep going. That was basically what you said. The key hing is you did not deny that they lost many readers. Evident in statistics shown. My point is that it is seen as a failure as it is commercially and critically falling down. I know you understand and don't care and that is you. I am not here to change your mind I just put it in there as a reason I(and many others) feel it fail. And that is that so this is a hollow argument.

No you just keep bringing up the fact/opinion thing as if I don't know it. That is all as I have clearly said it is a matter of opinion. I started the conversation just to point out something for you and it would have ended long time ago if you did not start with the insults. That is all.

no i didnt, but if it was so childish, you shouldnt of done the same thing.

you say that your first comment was your opinion (which i now know that it was since later in our discussion you acknowledged what you were saying was your opinion) but that quote could be interpreted differently. you said you like it at times but you also said “bleach is garbage” in that post, you saying “i like it at times” doesnt address what you said about bleach being garbage was just your opinion. and as far as the your other posts i displayed, those ones can be easily interpreted as what you were saying wasnt an opinion.

actually, i did read some of that rant. you finding why that rant was hilarious is of no importance. also, you didnt show that the majority of the readers agreed, i looked through the comments and some of those who agreed with the op, agreed with some of the parts of that rant, not everyone who agreed, agreed with everything he said. so when i quoted you, it proved my point that you didnt acknowledge or even hint what you were saying early on was just your opinion. when you posted that link you said “read this rant then come back and say that bleach is better than naruto. but you won't cuz naruto>bleach”, even if you were joking (which i dont know how you expect someone to interpret that), what you were saying didnt come off as just an opinion.

and i too pointed out your flaws in which you either dodged, ignored, or didnt comprehend.

where do you get the idea that i didnt read that link, you said yourself (dont deny) that if someone read that rant they wouldnt comeback saying bleach is better than naruto, then you said “cuz naruto > bleach”. you implied that naruto > bleach was fact, nothing in that post gave the idea that what you were saying was just your opinion. that is a terrible reason to bring it up later, obviously one could be under the impression that you were coming across as stating facts or you were trying to force your opinions on to others. you should of cleared it up earlier you asshat. next time acknowledge or hint that what you are saying is your opinion then there wouldnt be any confusion, not hard at all.

actually, you are the one who has trouble using words properly and has trouble comprehending simple things.

no no no, i didnt ask why that movie or that singer is/had success, you twisted my questions because you knew that if you answered them without trying to bullshit, you would realized that your logic is flawed. actually, it is your fault that you continued to dodge my questions and /or couldnt comprehend my questions which i even dumbed it down to help you.

i find it funny that you find it funny, the difference between you and i on this subject is that you try to be grammatically correct while i do not. i do not try to capitalize or punctuate, i could care less if i have words that are misspelled. you on the other hand tried to be a grammar nazi when you have made countless mistakes yourself, it doesnt matter that you made less mistakes, it is still ironic and stupid that you would try to correct me when grammar isnt the topic at hand and that we are on a naruto forum. now i would understand if you complained about someones grammar if someone wrote like this “i iz da best, uz dont nos nadda bout nothings”, but you are the only one complaining about my grammar which can be read and understood. like i said, you are the only one complaining about my grammar, so obviously it must not be that bad to make my argument look stupid. my arguments is recognizable, you and only you is the one complaining about it which amuses me.

you serious? we have a separate paragraph on grammar mistakes (which you started), you were the one who started to cuss like a sailor so how was it that you tried dissolve the fighting again? if you could of clarified what you were saying earlier on was just your opinion then 11+ pages of both of us bitching could have been avoided. no that is not what i basically said, i basically said from most of those who stopped reading bleach, most of them stopped reading when aizen was defeated… not most people stopped reading bleach, that is entirely different. ok, to you, bleach is a failure since it has lost readers/manga sells, people may agree with that and people may not. dont have a problem with your reasons why YOU or others thinks it is a fail, but i hope you dont have the impression that those who agrees that bleach is a fail, have the exact reasons you do. you are right saying this is a hollow argument because from our earlier posts, this argument has little to no relevance with the topic at hand, you are saying that you just wanted to express your opinion, and i the same. but as you see, most of our wall of texts have nothing to do of what we discussed earlier.

actually, i have said it is a matter of opinion, it took you awhile to say that yourself. you pointed out your problems with bleach to me in a condescending way, so from the get go it wasnt like we were having a respectful conversation before you saying i was complaining and i calling you a tard. point blank is that this should of ended a long time ago but since you kept replying to me im obviously going to keep responding. that is all.

 

[Kazemaru]

i personally like bleach more than naruto, and im currently enjoying the new bleach manga updates more than naruto.

though if i were to choose, i'd rather be a ninja than a shinigami.

 

[Salad]

I cant see why people think Naruto is better than bleach.

Any show that has an entire series of fillers does not deserve to be considered the best anime. The fillers have only been getting good am sure because of complaints by fans. Naruto has a much better storyline (which is why it's #1), but bleach has a MUCH better plot that hardly ever contradicts itself.
In terms of characters and strength, and raw power...bleach takes this. Even with things like the Rinnegan and Sharingan, Edo Tensei Ect. It would be kinda close but Overall Bleach would win.

Bleach's characters are on a whole different level to Naruto's and i completely agree.

 

[UchihaSora96]

That's not mather to me...I'm trying to have balance for all anime and manga series that are worth.
1.Naruto
1.Bleach
1.One Piece
1.Dragon Ball
They don't deserve that kind of questions...

 

[Mellorox9]

Yep, Bleach is definetly better

 

[Madara55]

Hey I don't agree with u I know bleach Is awesome but remenber naruto fillers is just to make the manga way ahead of the animes I think both are aweso
me

 

[Priyam Bhowmick]

STFU. I also like Bleach bt it cn never outrun Naruto whose plot is 3 times better nd which gives us more than awesome fights, nd suspence it teaches us bonds of friendship. Bleach cn be definitely next to naruto in power scaling nd plot. I find the fights a bit funny specially the flash steps in air which is more like teleportation jutsu. In Naruto fights r more logical

 

[Hei]

It's matter of personal taste but i love Bleach too and think it's better than Naruto in some ways