I think Bleach is overal better than Naruto

[a banned cartoon]

read our conversation again, ive said multiple times that im not trying to prove which is better, if you dont feel like it go on the first page and read the first thing i said, then tell if im trying to say which is better.

and as far a me shutting up, no.

To answer your question no just because Justin Beiber is more popular doesn't make him a better singer, here's my question for you though, can you convince a Justin Beiber lover that other singer's are better than him? I'll let you answer this yourself.

If you get the point I'm trying to make, it's that you can't convince each other anything. So stop writing these long pages, because they're getting you nowhere really fast. This is all I have to say, after this statement I will go no further, hopefully the analogy I pulled from your question will help you two.

 

[Mosgoved]

To answer your question no just because Justin Beiber is more popular doesn't make him a better singer, here's my question for you though, can you convince a Justin Beiber lover that other singer are better than him? I'll let you answer this yourself.

If you gt the point I'm trying to make, it's that you can't convince each other anything. So stop writing these long pages, because they're getting you nowhere really fast. This is all I have to say, after this statement I will o no further, hopefully the analogy I pulled from your question will help you two.

thats the point i was trying to make the whole time but you are right in saying writing these long text will get you nowhere.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

hey genius, the site is called narutobase, most people probably joined this site mainly because of naruto so its obvious you will see more people who prefer naruto over bleach. and it seems you dont know whats the difference between fact and opinion, so i guess we both have to learn.

yes, he is still going to think of us both the way he thought of us previously, does that make you feel better about yourself. you raging was because you get upset easily, not my fault, when we were actually discussing in a somewhat appropriate manner we both were talking about what we dont like about naruto/bleach, but you couldnt take my opinion and resorted to bitching. i didnt have a problem with your opinion, you had a problem with mine which is why you responded to me first. you act as if i was the only one swearing and being rude, dont make me laugh, i did cuss but you did also (more than me btw). im not the one who is trying to something which is personal preference fact, you are.

nah, i told you i started not to care about your opinion when you started acting like a tard. but what you have basically said this hold time is majority means fact and your opinion is > my opinion.

you showed sales and opinions, those arent determining which is better, try again. im not denying which is more popular, im denying that it isnt fact that naruto is better and im saying people have different opinions.

grammar mistakes is grammar mistakes, if you made them you shouldnt even mention someone elses.

haha, you are pointing words in my mouth, i brought him up because you brought up harry potter and shit like that to prove you point. i used your logic to ask you a question which counters yours. and again, where the fck did you see me diss justin? stop hopping on his dck and just answer my simple question, is justin a better singer since he is more popular than those who arent as popular?

you are confused, im not debating, im trying to tell you a simple thing but your inner tard cant accept it. so it took you that long to decide im a waste of time, i call bullshit, youre just upset that you didnt prove shit.

You obviously did not see my edit. I fully said that on the base generally those who read both Naruto and One piece say that One piece>Naruto. And the fact is there are numerous people on this very thread alone who read both naruto and Bleach and have fully said naruto is better. Your the only one who needs to learn something.

No comeback so you just give in that is sad. He probably thinks much worse of you. You are right I do get easily offended but the funny thing is you did exactly what I said you would do! Instead of fully admitting to being the first to throw an insult a known fact you simply say that we were both throwing insults. You can't even acknowledge that you started it. That is sad. Do you not realize it was your action that created a domino effect that led to all this "bitching"?

That is based on statistics. I use it as a stepping stone to push of the idea that Naruto>Bleach. It is to bolster my point. Unfortunately for you that is more than ANYTHING you have done!

I feel that you are in denial. The thing is it has more sales and therefore is popular because of the MATERIAL which the general consensus on both a financial and critical standpoint outweighs bleach. That can't be disputed as those are solid facts. That is the same aligning of reason that has one piece as the number one manga in the world!

You see the thing is I expect you to at least make an effort to proof read the garbage you submit something you learn in high school. I do it to the best of my ability with the time I have. You must as it makes you look stupid.

"Pointing words in my mouth" tard. There is a huge distinction between what your saying I did and what actually happened. I simply reconstructed in words the thought process you went through to ask what you asked. You totally misinterpreted what happened which isn't surprising given your arguments...I'm shocked that you just asked the same question again AFTER I answered it. You are truly an idiot...

Funny considering I have brought more to the table than you have.

I think both you two arguing should shut up. One of you likes Bleach more, the other Naruto. An argument about which series is better will get nowhere, because these are your opinions, and your most likely not going to change them. Just drop it neither of you will ever convince the other, that ones better than the other. Drop it, and just love anime overall.

EDIT: Oh and Justin Beiber isn't a better singer just because he's more popular to answer your question Mosgoved, but I have a question for you. Can you convince a Justin Beiber lover that anyone is better than him? I let you answer this question yourself.

Don't make the assumption I'm a jb fan.

 

[Uzeless]

One piece is the best.

 

[metallica9565]

when the fillers are over and it gets back to the good stuff, we'll all be talking about how Bleach and One Piece is garbage and that Naruto has always been great when you ignore the fillers

 

[KingHashirama]

Probably because liking Bleach more doesn't mean he doesn't like Naruto.


Actually, One Piece has way more morals and messages than Naruto.

Incorrect. Naruto is basically about "Peace".. its whole focus is on Naruto Uzumaki getting peace. One piece sure it focuses on it.. but never uses it as the main focus.

 

[SasukeCurse]

*pulls out chips waiting to read more comments*

 

[Mosgoved]

You obviously did not see my edit. I fully said that on the base generally those who read both Naruto and One piece say that One piece>Naruto. And the fact is there are numerous people on this very thread alone who read both naruto and Bleach and have fully said naruto is better. Your the only one who needs to learn something.

No comeback so you just give in that is sad. He probably thinks much worse of you. You are right I do get easily offended but the funny thing is you did exactly what I said you would do! Instead of fully admitting to being the first to throw an insult a known fact you simply say that we were both throwing insults. You can't even acknowledge that you started it. That is sad. Do you not realize it was your action that created a domino effect that led to all this "bitching"?

That is based on statistics. I use it as a stepping stone to push of the idea that Naruto>Bleach. It is to bolster my point. Unfortunately for you that is more than ANYTHING you have done!

I feel that you are in denial. The thing is it has more sales and therefore is popular because of the MATERIAL which the general consensus on both a financial and critical standpoint outweighs bleach. That can't be disputed as those are solid facts. That is the same aligning of reason that has one piece as the number one manga in the world!

You see the thing is I expect you to at least make an effort to proof read the garbage you submit something you learn in high school. I do it to the best of my ability with the time I have. You must as it makes you look stupid.

"Pointing words in my mouth" tard. There is a huge distinction between what your saying I did and what actually happened. I simply reconstructed in words the thought process you went through to ask what you asked. You totally misinterpreted what happened which isn't surprising given your arguments...I'm shocked that you just asked the same question again AFTER I answered it. You are truly an idiot...

Funny considering I have brought more to the table than you have.

so im supposed to wait for your edits, why should i do that when havent done the same thing? on narutobase you are going to see more people who just reads/watches naruto on a site like onepiecebay, you are going to see more people who just watches op than people on here who just watches op. i have seen posts on this thread saying they havent read/stop reading bleach, you are most likely not going to see that on a bleach forum, you will see the same thing about people not reading/stopped reading naruto. nah, you have a hard time understanding something so basic.

in your previous reply you said this might be your last post and you say i "give in" haha. what he feels about me doesnt upset me, people have opinions of others, no need to bitch about it like you are. im not acknowledging me throwing the first insult because it was you that took it as a insult, i cant control that, i could say "imo ichigo rapes naruto" and it wouldnt be an insult because people take it different ways. some dont care, some respond, you responded first to me because you didnt like what i said about naruto. my actions causing you butthurt doesnt matter to me, next time learn to take an opinion.

your ideas, your point... not fact. its as simple as that.

yes, thats because more people like it more, it that hard to comprehend? it isnt fact which is better, you havent showed anything to proved that naruto is better. and you do know that some people dont like op or doesnt think its as good as other anime/manga they like, does that make it fact that is better? no, alot of people think otherwise.

you want me to proof read what i post when you yourself edits your posts, dont give me that bullshit, you can read what i say i can read what you say, stop bitching.

this proves my point, you said i didnt read your edit when you just quoted my post before i made some edits, seems hypocritical to me. your "reconstruction" was off by a mile. and you still didnt answer my jb question dumbass.

what exactly did you bring other then butthurt and fanboying?

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

*pulls out chips waiting to read more comments*

Do you think my arguments are good?

 

[Mosgoved]

Do you think my arguments are good?

how sad, now you want recognition. haha

 

[SasukeCurse]

Do you think my arguments are good?

Yes i do Think there good i respect both u and mosgoved's opinions on which anime u guys like i happen to like Naruto more but i wouldn't question mosgoved's opinion hes just standing up for a anime he loves as u r for naruto, good debate until names were being thrown and childish antics started to occur then again i wouldnt be reading this whole thread if i didn't find it interesting to read.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

so im supposed to wait for your edits, why should i do that when havent done the same thing? on narutobase you are going to see more people who just reads/watches naruto on a site like onepiecebay, you are going to see more people who just watches op than people on here who just watches op. i have seen posts on this thread saying they havent read/stop reading bleach, you are most likely not going to see that on a bleach forum, you will see the same thing about people not reading/stopped reading naruto. nah, you have a hard time understanding something so basic.

in your previous reply you said this might be your last post and you say i "give in" haha. what he feels about me doesnt upset me, people have opinions of others, no need to bitch about it like you are. im not acknowledging me throwing the first insult because it was you that took it as a insult, i cant control that, i could say "imo ichigo rapes naruto" and it wouldnt be an insult because people take it different ways. some dont care, some respond, you responded first to me because you didnt like what i said about naruto. my actions causing you butthurt doesnt matter to me, next time learn to take an opinion.

your ideas, your point... not fact. its as simple as that.

yes, thats because more people like it more, it that hard to comprehend? it isnt fact which is better, you havent showed anything to proved that naruto is better. and you do know that some people dont like op or doesnt think its as good as other anime/manga they like, does that make it fact that is better? no, alot of people think otherwise.

you want me to proof read what i post when you yourself edits your posts, dont give me that bullshit, you can what i say i can read what you say, stop bitching.

this proves my point, you said i didnt read your edit when you just quoted my post before i made some edits, seems hypocritical to me. your "reconstruction" was off by a mile. and you still didnt answer my jb question dumbass.

what exactly did you bring other then butthurt and fanboying?

"When haven't done the same thing" r u retarded?
Your truly an idiot this entire paragraph you wrote is useless. It is like you are just pulling any excuse now "stopped reading " and blah blah blah. The fact is those who are fully up to date on both are still sending their votes to naruto giving it the majority. And how nice of you to be dumb enough to fully ignore my one piece comment.

You show how dumb you are again as I never said I give in. Stupid ass pull much. Here is the difference between your example of naruto getting raped and what you said to me. The one for naruto is not directed to me! The one where you called ME a tard is both directed at me and is openly offensive. Everyone would take that as an insult. You are clearly dumb if you can't understand something so simple and if I have to be frank that was a horrible attempt at rationalization. And I was handling you roping on just fine till you insulted me.

At least I gave ideas and point you just sat on your ass and repeated your opinion and denied everything idiot.

On top of not having any grammar skills you now can't comprehend the fundamentals of success in business!
Now you said "it's because more people like it more"
Now here is my question why do you think they do?
And look up general consensus while your at it!

"You can what I say I can read what you say" LMFAO YOUR SOOO STUPID!

I was pointing out to re read it nothing more to it there is no connection to that and your poor grammar that should be checked before editing in comparison to getting new ideas later. I did answer the question you idiot.

how sad, now you want recognition. haha

I want opinions just to see what are people thinking as a breath of fresh air from this argument. That is not sad in comparison to you calling me out on something you have not even thought through.

 

[KingHashirama]

You obviously did not see my edit. I fully said that on the base generally those who read both Naruto and One piece say that One piece>Naruto. And the fact is there are numerous people on this very thread alone who read both naruto and Bleach and have fully said naruto is better. Your the only one who needs to learn something.

No comeback so you just give in that is sad. He probably thinks much worse of you. You are right I do get easily offended but the funny thing is you did exactly what I said you would do! Instead of fully admitting to being the first to throw an insult a known fact you simply say that we were both throwing insults. You can't even acknowledge that you started it. That is sad. Do you not realize it was your action that created a domino effect that led to all this "bitching"?

That is based on statistics. I use it as a stepping stone to push of the idea that Naruto>Bleach. It is to bolster my point. Unfortunately for you that is more than ANYTHING you have done!

I feel that you are in denial. The thing is it has more sales and therefore is popular because of the MATERIAL which the general consensus on both a financial and critical standpoint outweighs bleach. That can't be disputed as those are solid facts. That is the same aligning of reason that has one piece as the number one manga in the world!

You see the thing is I expect you to at least make an effort to proof read the garbage you submit something you learn in high school. I do it to the best of my ability with the time I have. You must as it makes you look stupid.

"Pointing words in my mouth" tard. There is a huge distinction between what your saying I did and what actually happened. I simply reconstructed in words the thought process you went through to ask what you asked. You totally misinterpreted what happened which isn't surprising given your arguments...I'm shocked that you just asked the same question again AFTER I answered it. You are truly an idiot...

Funny considering I have brought more to the table than you have.

so im supposed to wait for your edits, why should i do that when havent done the same thing? on narutobase you are going to see more people who just reads/watches naruto on a site like onepiecebay, you are going to see more people who just watches op than people on here who just watches op. i have seen posts on this thread saying they havent read/stop reading bleach, you are most likely not going to see that on a bleach forum, you will see the same thing about people not reading/stopped reading naruto. nah, you have a hard time understanding something so basic.

in your previous reply you said this might be your last post and you say i "give in" haha. what he feels about me doesnt upset me, people have opinions of others, no need to bitch about it like you are. im not acknowledging me throwing the first insult because it was you that took it as a insult, i cant control that, i could say "imo ichigo rapes naruto" and it wouldnt be an insult because people take it different ways. some dont care, some respond, you responded first to me because you didnt like what i said about naruto. my actions causing you butthurt doesnt matter to me, next time learn to take an opinion.

your ideas, your point... not fact. its as simple as that.

yes, thats because more people like it more, it that hard to comprehend? it isnt fact which is better, you havent showed anything to proved that naruto is better. and you do know that some people dont like op or doesnt think its as good as other anime/manga they like, does that make it fact that is better? no, alot of people think otherwise.

you want me to proof read what i post when you yourself edits your posts, dont give me that bullshit, you can read what i say i can read what you say, stop bitching.

this proves my point, you said i didnt read your edit when you just quoted my post before i made some edits, seems hypocritical to me. your "reconstruction" was off by a mile. and you still didnt answer my jb question dumbass.

what exactly did you bring other then butthurt and fanboying?

You guys are both wrong. X_X.

All 3 of them are in a class of their own. Bleach is more action based. Naruto is more "moral" or "message" based. One piece is "Grand storyline" based.

See if you were to talk about fights:

Then One piece is at the bottom. And Bleach is at the top. Naruto between both.

If you are talking about character development:

One piece is the best in this because of their bigger cast. But only to be followed by Naruto. Bleach I believe will surpass Naruto when it reaches its end. ^_^.


Morals/"message to the world".. and all that "wisdom" stuff..:

Naruto takes this without any competition. One piece focuses on it somewhat.. but it isn't the main concern. While Naruto's themes are based off of "hatred", "love" and things of that Nature.


Storyline wise:

One piece is basically more GRANDER as in bigger. So automatically wins in this category. But it does get slow alot..


now the PACE:

1. Naruto is medium
2. Bleach is fast
3. One piece is slow

So thats a preference.

I personally put them as equal.. considering they really can't be judged.. But all three of the mangas will be legends when they are finished.

Especially One piece.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

You guys are both wrong. X_X.

All 3 of them are in a class of their own. Bleach is more action based. Naruto is more "moral" or "message" based. One piece is "Grand storyline" based.

See if you were to talk about fights:

Then One piece is at the bottom. And Bleach is at the top. Naruto between both.

If you are talking about character development:

One piece is the best in this because of their bigger cast. But only to be followed by Naruto. Bleach I believe will surpass Naruto when it reaches its end. ^_^.


Morals/"message to the world".. and all that "wisdom" stuff..:

Naruto takes this without any competition. One piece focuses on it somewhat.. but it isn't the main concern. While Naruto's themes are based off of "hatred", "love" and things of that Nature.


Storyline wise:

One piece is basically more GRANDER as in bigger. So automatically wins in this category. But it does get slow alot..


now the PACE:

1. Naruto is medium
2. Bleach is fast
3. One piece is slow

So thats a preference.

I personally put them as equal.. considering they really can't be judged.. But all three of the mangas will be legends when they are finished.

Especially One piece.

Well said I respect it and it was dot on nearly perfect + rep!

 

[KingHashirama]

Well said I respect it and it was dot on nearly perfect + rep!

Gracias. ^_^

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Gracias. ^_^

I bet your looking forward to that Hashirama vs Madara flashback aren't you?

 

[jiraiya lives]

Han go to bleach base.net... Oh wait there isn't one. Guess bleach wasn't good enough to have a website that has so many followers. Not everything is about blowing sh!t up, or seeing possibly how much destruction a character can cause.

If an anime has to have a huge site to be good then why isnt there a deathnotebase.net

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

If an anime has to have a huge site to be good then why isnt there a deathnotebase.net

I can't lie that was actually a good comeback. Though there are possible counters I'll + rep you anyway!

 

[Mosgoved]

"When haven't done the same thing" r u retarded?
Your truly an idiot this entire paragraph you wrote is useless. It is like you are just pulling any excuse now "stopped reading " and blah blah blah. The fact is those who are fully up to date on both are still sending their votes to naruto giving it the majority. And how nice of you to be dumb enough to fully ignore my one piece comment.

You show how dumb you are again as I never said I give in. Stupid ass pull much. Here is the difference between your example of naruto getting raped and what you said to me. The one for naruto is not directed to me! The one where you called ME a tard is both directed at me and is openly offensive. Everyone would take that as an insult. You are clearly dumb if you can't understand something so simple and if I have to be frank that was a horrible attempt at rationalization. And I was handling you roping on just fine till you insulted me.

At least I gave ideas and point you just sat on your ass and repeated your opinion and denied everything idiot.

On top of not having any grammar skills you now can't comprehend the fundamentals of success in business!
Now you said "it's because more people like it more"
Now here is my question why do you think they do?
And look up general consensus while your at it!

"You can what I say I can read what you say" LMFAO YOUR SOOO STUPID!

I was pointing out to re read it nothing more to it there is no connection to that and your poor grammar that should be checked before editing in comparison to getting new ideas later. I did answer the question you idiot.

i responded on the one piece part dumbass, or did your rage made you miss it.

never said you gave in, i said that you shouldnt be the one to talk saying this might be my last post and saying that i give in (not you) genius. you took it as an offense, thats your problem, before i even said that you came across as if you were right in saying that naruto is better, you said i was complaining and shit like that and when i said youre a tard you raised your bitching levels. everyone will take it as a insult? tell me more how you know of everyone elses take on what gets them upset and what doesnt. what exactly were you handling when you started the conversation between us saying what you think is wrong with bleach. you were trying to defend its honor (which is sad), i was just saying its a matter of opinion and currently bleach shits on naruto.

read your posts again and youve said the same shit too. you know that your ideas and your points are your opinion right? you tried to prove something you cant and you failed.

if only i gave a fck to go through your post and previous ones to show you your mistakes, but nah, dont feel like wasting my time in something so pointless. to answer your question even though you havent answered mine yet... because they think it is better, that is personal preference. there are people who dont think that means you cant prove it is really better than another.

im stupid yet you continue to be a grammar nazi when you said i didnt read your edit implying that i should of waited, seems legit. keep looking at my grammar mistakes, all you doing is trying to switch up the conversation because you cant prove what youre saying is fact.

if i was to reread your post i would have to change my answers maybe, same to you. i make few corrections to my grammar if i spot it, sometimes i dont, owell. actually you didnt answer my question.

I want opinions just to see what are people thinking as a breath of fresh air from this argument. That is not sad in comparison to you calling me out on something you have not even thought through.

it is sad because you wanted acknowledgment that your argument is good, do is really matter? we are discussing not them so why are you asking him if he thinks what you are saying is good? seems that you just want someone to agree with you so that makes you feel better, that shows again that you are worried too much about what other think making it sad.

You guys are both wrong. X_X.

All 3 of them are in a class of their own. Bleach is more action based. Naruto is more "moral" or "message" based. One piece is "Grand storyline" based.

See if you were to talk about fights:

Then One piece is at the bottom. And Bleach is at the top. Naruto between both.

If you are talking about character development:

One piece is the best in this because of their bigger cast. But only to be followed by Naruto. Bleach I believe will surpass Naruto when it reaches its end. ^_^.


Morals/"message to the world".. and all that "wisdom" stuff..:

Naruto takes this without any competition. One piece focuses on it somewhat.. but it isn't the main concern. While Naruto's themes are based off of "hatred", "love" and things of that Nature.


Storyline wise:

One piece is basically more GRANDER as in bigger. So automatically wins in this category. But it does get slow alot..


now the PACE:

1. Naruto is medium
2. Bleach is fast
3. One piece is slow

So thats a preference.

I personally put them as equal.. considering they really can't be judged.. But all three of the mangas will be legends when they are finished.

Especially One piece.

i dont have a problem if you disagree, its a matter of opinions

 

[TobisPawn]

Naruto's dropped a lot in my eyes. Especially during this war, and in the majority of Part 2.

One Piece >> Bleach >= Naruto.