I still dont understand ororchimaru's arms.

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Why couldn't orochimaru use ninjutsu even after he replaced his arms? Why did he suddenly not be able to use his arms, and why could he use ninjustu fighting 4T Naruto?

And i want a real answer, the 3rd sealed his arms, not his ninjustu. By sealing his arms he became unably to use ninjutsu, so it was good enough. But he replaced them.

 

[Saikyokami]

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[Everztar]

Why couldn't orochimaru use ninjutsu even after he replaced his arms? Why did he suddenly not be able to use his arms, and why could he use ninjustu fighting 4T Naruto?

And i want a real answer, the 3rd sealed his arms, not his ninjustu. By sealing his arms he became unably to use ninjutsu, so it was good enough. But he replaced them.

Hiruzen didn't seal his arms... he was supposed to seal Orochimarus entire SOUL, but only managed to seal away the ARMS part of the soul. no matter if he gets new arms or whatever, he still couldn't retrieve his missing part of his soul.

 

[Frankenstein]

Why couldn't orochimaru use ninjutsu even after he replaced his arms? Why did he suddenly not be able to use his arms, and why could he use ninjustu fighting 4T Naruto?

And i want a real answer, the 3rd sealed his arms, not his ninjustu. By sealing his arms he became unably to use ninjutsu, so it was good enough. But he replaced them.

I guess back then Kishimoto wasn't that good at covering plotholes.

But you have to admit he has improved very much in that aspect

 

[Animeniak]

molested to many kids

Hahahahahaha.....

 

[Snape Uchiha]

I guess back then Kishimoto wasn't that good at covering plotholes.

But you have to admit he has improved very much in that aspect

It's not a plothole. The third sealed the part of his soul that allowed his arms to use Ninjutsu.

 

[Frankenstein]

It's not a plothole. The third sealed the part of his soul that allowed his arms to use Ninjutsu.

Yeah but he still used some ninjutsu when he fought Naruto I remember that clearly.

 

[thegame]

Okay let me explain as short as possible.

Orochimaru can use his arms, if he take another persons body. This is how, he could use triple rashomon against Naruto. The entire subject on this, hasn't been cleared up in the manga yet though, but if I start going into my own beliefs and assumptions, it will be rather long.

It would perhaps even appear, as if the body he overtook, was trying to reject him all the time, which is why he needed certain medicine / drugs to make it work better.

The tatoo on his arms is a tatoo that allows him to freely summon snakes, primarily from his mouth. Thus even, when he didn't have his medicine, he was able to try to take over Sasuke, however, not being able to perform ninjutsu with his arms, he lost, and Sasuke took over him instead.

 

[Baka Sennin]

in Naruto the soul is basically a a spirit in human form, Hiruzen took the arms of that soul so whichever body Oro possessed he would never be able to use his arms.

 

[thegame]

in Naruto the soul is basically a a spirit in human form, Hiruzen took the arms of that soul so whichever body Oro possessed he would never be able to use his arms.

And of course, this is wrong, since Orochimaru summed the tripple Rashomon, using both of his hands. By taking over a new body, the person, who originally was inside the body, doesn't just die. He is absorbed by Orochimaru, as I said, when Oro tried to overtake Sasuke, Sasuke actually absorbed Oro. So it clearly explains, how he could use his hands inside another persons body.

 

[Tec]

the only jutsu he used against 4 tailed naruto was a summoning of the Rashomon gates. which is does not require you to send chakra into your arms / hands. This is also shown during the Tsunade + Jiraiya vs Orochimaru fight, where he has Kabuto physically put his arms down for him to summon Manda.

When Orochimaru got him self a new body, the previous dead flesh of his arms were gone, so he could physically move his arms. But never again would he be able to force chakra down his arms or into his hands. That is without getting the soul of his arms back from where they were sealed. Now that really isn't a hard concept to grasp. Just you know, use your head a bit. It isn't a plot hole. This isn't some thing Kishi has just pulled out of a hat. Orochimaru clearly stated that this was possible way, way, way back during the Tsunade + Jiraiya vs Orochimaru fight. So please if you are going to make a deal out of some thing, at least do a bit of research first ,or just use your head. Or maybe perhaps pay attention to the series its self. You won't find your self getting oh so confused about it then. Ty

 

[Henchman24]

Why couldn't orochimaru use ninjutsu even after he replaced his arms? Why did he suddenly not be able to use his arms, and why could he use ninjustu fighting 4T Naruto?

And i want a real answer, the 3rd sealed his arms, not his ninjustu. By sealing his arms he became unably to use ninjutsu, so it was good enough. But he replaced them.

RDS sealed away Orochimaru's ability to use hand seals for jutsu. He is able to use Summoning jutsu like Manda and Triple Roshoman because they are a blood contract. All you need for those is your own blood. Nothing he did in the fight with 4 tails naruto required hand seals.

RDS has a hold of Oro and he can't activate a jutsu.

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What he is doing he isn't considered an hand seal. He just commanding the chakra in his sword.

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Hiruzen says that Oro's ambitiions end here. Oro's ambition in life is learn and master every jutsu.

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Oro says that RDS has grabbed his arms and that he can no longer use jutsu.

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When Oro took that new guys body he was only able to heal his rotted arms and not restore his jutsu. That part of his soul is trapped.

He is still able to build up chakra for his snakes and summonings because they don't require hand seals.

In the new chapter when Oro says they are back. he has recovered his arms and can now use edo tensei. This should be enough for people to understand that his ability to use hand seal jutsu was what was taken.

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[6PathsofKami]

He didnt use ninjutsu against Naruto 4 tails, he did summoning with his blood for the rashomon and snakes dont require ninjutsu. If he had his arms soul he would hav destroyed Naruto.

 

[HarrisonX]

I think the chakra network in Orochimaru wasn't able to flow through his arms after Hiruzen sealed that part of him away.

 

[p0002q]

Even if we don't understand the reason why Maru's could not use his hands for jutsu, we should at least be happy with Hiruzen saying beforeHAND (lol see what i did) that Maru was going to lose the use of his arms, and it was also very obvious that Maru believed him before his arms got cut.

I mean, I would expect Hiruzen to be in perfect understanding of a jutsu of that calibur.

I also like what a few people in here said in response.

 

[ItachiStyle]

It makes no sense really (I did a thread less than a week ago showing how Oro could still use jutsu before this nonsense happened). Basically this is a retcon of sorts, and like all retcons, we need to take it in the most minimal sense.

Oro says he can now use Edo Tensei with his arms back... so for whatever reason, not having his old arms prevented him using Edo Tensei... but otherwise, his jutsu seemed fine. Whatever. It is what it is.

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[thegame]

He didnt use ninjutsu against Naruto 4 tails, he did summoning with his blood for the rashomon and snakes dont require ninjutsu. If he had his arms soul he would hav destroyed Naruto.

Lol, no you are wrong. Summoning is ninjutsu. Go look it up in the databook. And doing it with his hands, means you need to use chakra through your hands as well. Remember that Naruto couldn't summon Gamabunta, till he had depleted his chakra, and was at the verge of death. Meaning he used the Kuybi's chakra to summon him.

 

[p0002q]

Lol, no you are wrong. Summoning is ninjutsu. Go look it up in the databook. And doing it with his hands, means you need to use chakra through your hands as well. Remember that Naruto couldn't summon Gamabunta, till he had depleted his chakra, and was at the verge of death. Meaning he used the Kuybi's chakra to summon him.

Then is it safe to say Maru did use some Ninjutsu, just not with hands of course?

We saw Kabuto help Maru use jutsu (after maru arms went to crap).

We've also seen Jaraiya use ninjutsu with his feet and hair only.


Maru was obviously not completely crippled after losing his arms.

 

[thegame]

Then is it safe to say Maru did use some Ninjutsu, just not with hands of course?

We saw Kabuto help Maru use jutsu (after maru arms went to crap).

We've also seen Jaraiya use ninjutsu with his feet and hair only.


Maru was obviously not completely crippled after losing his arms.

Exactly. You can mold chakra with other body parts than your hands. Oro just lost the ability to mold chakra with his hands, and thus was forced to change body often.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Except he could still do summoning, which requires the hands... it really makes no sense, but whatever.