I start to think the Sage wasn't that strong

King Of Crows

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Bro the only claim to call the sage out of the reach of Edo Madara and Hashirama and etc is his so called feat of creating the moon. Which people compare to the real moon. However by that logic.

1/4th of the earth should be destroyed and there should be a big creator. and not to forgot it would've caused volcanoes to erupt around the world and so on.



Its kinda on a locked down.. and can't do shit at the moment..... and that was all due to 1 jutsu....

You silly banana, who cares about him creating a moon ? He has what could be called an eternal Izanagi, creation of all things. The sage is invincible :|
 

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Considering it's taking basically all of the strongest ninja to stop it, and then some. Juubi hasn't disappointed me yet. He still has another transformation.
 

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The Rikudō was unable to kill the full Jūbi and had to resort to sealing it instead; but as portrayed he returned from the battle without severed limbs or any life threatening injuries, meaning that he survived/evaded/ countered it's Biju-dama and other attacks to the possibility of it's Dōjutsu being functional in that state....which leaves the question...

How many [alive] shinobi are able to conduct such a feat?
Its not even protrayed that he returned without being hurt.. or scratched... lol.

I can actually only name 1 who MIGHT be able to do that feat, if shown more skills in Mokuton.

You silly banana, who cares about him creating a moon ? He has what could be called an eternal Izanagi, creation of all things. The sage is invincible :|

Apparently you don't know what invincible is..... Should I call Hashirama invincible also because noone has defeated him?


Creation of all things came after.... lmao. And your making it into a big deal.


Did madara cause huge craters in the earth from spawning two meteors?

WAs that Chibaku tensei? no.
 

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Bro the only claim to call the sage out of the reach of Edo Madara and Hashirama and etc is his so called feat of creating the moon. Which people compare to the real moon. However by that logic.

1/4th of the earth should be destroyed and there should be a big creator. and not to forgot it would've caused volcanoes to erupt around the world and so on.



Its kinda on a locked down.. and can't do shit at the moment..... and that was all due to 1 jutsu....

1 jutsu that needed four elite ninja and again, it's not even complete yet.
 

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The Juubi doesn't have the 8 and 9 tails. I don't care what obito say about only having a portion and it still works. Naruto didn't protect anyone. Kurama(biggest part of the Juubi) helped save the alliance. The sage fought it with no help. Most likely with sealing jutsu and sage treasures.
 

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Its not even protrayed that he returned without being hurt.. or scratched... lol.

I can actually only name 1 who MIGHT be able to do that feat, if shown more skills in Mokuton.

Really? What is portrayed then?

Funny. You think Hashirama could counter the Jubi's Biju-dama with Mokuton.
 

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Bro the only claim to call the sage out of the reach of Edo Madara and Hashirama and etc is his so called feat of creating the moon. Which people compare to the real moon. However by that logic.

1/4th of the earth should be destroyed and there should be a big creator. and not to forgot it would've caused volcanoes to erupt around the world and so on.

So called feat? He was old and on his deathbed. Not to mention that he'd just extracted the Juubi from himself.

Also, are you forgetting Creation Of All Things? He prevented that catastrophe using Creation Of All Things. Or perhaps another jutsu we have yet to see, but that isn't really a counter-argument. At all.
 

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Apparently you don't know what invincible is..... Should I call Hashirama invincible also because noone has defeated him?

Creation of all things came after.... lmao. And your making it into a big deal.

After what ? The Sage had creation of all things. If you do not know what that is, look it up and you will see why no one can even lay a hand on him.
 

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You do realize that the Juubi isn't even at its full form, and it lacks the Full Hachibi and the Full Kyuubi. Considering the fact that the Kyuubi seems way stronger than any other Bijuu that's a huge piece of the Juubi missing. Don't forget that Juubi supposedly never underwent these transformations before, it was just there in its perfect form when the Sage confronted it and sealed it within him.

How many ninja have control of Yin and Yang to the degree of the Sage's control?

How many ninja can create celestial bodies with a jutsu?

How many ninja can confront the progenitor and come back alive with all its power?
 

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Bro the only claim to call the sage out of the reach of Edo Madara and Hashirama and etc is his so called feat of creating the moon. Which people compare to the real moon. However by that logic.

1/4th of the earth should be destroyed and there should be a big creator. and not to forgot it would've caused volcanoes to erupt around the world and so on.



Its kinda on a locked down.. and can't do shit at the moment..... and that was all due to 1 jutsu....

Stop sounding butthurt madara and hashirama only as strong as the elder/younger sons. We can't see that most of the land is gone because its underwater. A very powerful sealing jutsu by 4 of the most talented ninjas in NV. Don't forget Hashirama has the ability to control tailed beasts.
 
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To all those saying he created the moon without the juubi's chakra, I'd like to point out Obito's answer when Darui questioned that feat.
"As the jinchuriki of the juubi, the sage was already beyond what we could call human."
He most like kept part if not all of his jinchuriki chakra even after removing the juubi, just like the Kin and Gin bros.
 

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Its the final form thats dangerous, its the one the Rikūdo defeated, the full powered Jūbi with both Kurama abd Gyūki's chakra in it:

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The So6P could defeat every ninja that came after him all at the same time with no difficulty. He has the power to manipulate reality to his will.
 

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Put it like this, Madara and Hashi are incredibly strong ninja but it's the end for them. Neither of them has anymore power that they can get. They have aquired all of the power ups they can get and they still aren't on the Sage's level. I mean yes Madara can still become the Ten tails host but he still wouldn't be on the Sage's level because he can't defeat the ten tails alone. Hashi can't either. They need a combined attack from multiple ninja just for an attempt to take down the juubi. No one currently fighting nor in history other than the Sage, will be able to solo the juubi. If the Juubi can take on this whole war like it has, then knowing the sage defeated if, you could say that the sage can solo every single person fighting in this war. Im talking about all the good and evil characters both defeated and still fighting.
 

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Oh my goodness.

I won't bother replying, 95% of NB should know that Rikudou could take on the entire NV
 

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If Naruto didn't have sage whistle fighting pain, pain would of had a slighter advantage but naruto still has the kyuubi so not too important.
 
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